Yes, you can stay sober without AA. We are people who have been burned by AA and we discuss things we believe are wrong within AA. If you are convinced of the AA doctrine that you cannot be sober without AA, then this is probably not a group you should join. Our desire is to help you see what AA really is and we are not counselors or trained professionals. This list is not meant to replace professional therapy.


The only rules we have is no political discussions. AA promotion has nothing to do with being Liberal or Conservative. The other is :

NO GROUPLY!

We have had repeated problems with Grouply sending spam via our group. If you are a member, join under a different, non-Grouply address. Failure to do this will result in your being banned.


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