On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 5:31 PM, kelli flynt <kelliflynt@...> wrote:
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> You did the right thing, you can not let him put you, your mom, or your son
> in danger.

I agree. Sunni's father made a choice a long time ago to ruin his
body and brain with the effects of alcohol and thiamine deprivation.
What's happening now is the result of the choice that he made. He
does not have the right to hurt or kill other people because of that
decision. The criminal justice system exists in part to protect us
from such people.

Unfortunately, a lot of counties and states may not have a good system
available to address the needs of a violent person whose behavior may
be caused by medical problems. Apparently, that's considered an
option rather than a right.

I think there's probably not much danger from dying of the DTs at this
late point. Perhaps the experience of being in jail will impress upon
Sunni's father that he has hit bottom and can no longer take the risk
of drinking again. If not, if he still doesn't acknowledge that, then
he's not responsible enough to be freed and allowed to hurt other
people.

(By the way, videotaping the actions of someone who is being bizarre
in some way might help get through that person's denial later, but of
course, it would be important to be safe while videotaping the
behavior.)

Dana








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> --- On Sat, 6/6/09, sunni stalbird <sunniibunnii71@...> wrote:
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> From: sunni stalbird <sunniibunnii71@...>
> Subject: Re: [wernicke-korsakoff_syndrome] Re: my dad has reached a point, I
> dont know what to do next?
> To: wernicke-korsakoff_syndrome@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, June 6, 2009, 10:17 PM
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> I went to the beach a few days with my son on a much needed get away..and
> were back..on May 30Th my dad walked to my house demanding my car and money
> s when he didn't get his way he threw my portable fireplace at me..and I
> called 911..they escorted him home with my mom who agreed to watch him a few
> days..the next day he walked to my house while I was gone..and had the house
> locked up, when he got here he couldn't get in. so he shattered my sliding
> glass door into a million pieces..and I called 911 again they came and he
> continued to destroy my house..until back up came  and took him to jail I
> pressed charges. he went to jail on June 1 st , no one is bailing him out,
> today is June 6Th, he is still in jail..I have explained to the nurse there
> that he will go through detox and it could kill him if not treated rite.
> They are a jail not very caring or friendly..they said he will get melds to
> calm him down..in the mean time I'm worried he will get worse without IV
> fluids of needed vitamins. that he can only get in a hospital or rehab. I
> would like to get him to a hospital that is trained to care for him and
> further evaluate him, we need to see what suddenly on May 11when hen he
> drank that pint of vodka he got a hold of and almost died, why his sudden
> drastic behavior changes, he thinks he is rich and can go buy cars etc..he
> was never like this before and he was never violent either..so here we are
> with no solutions..adult protective services have been called I spoke to a
> lady one time and that was all..no return calls either..professiona ls seem
> to treat alcoholics like they don't matter..and brush them off..his disease
> is as serious as any other disease. I haven't checked with social security
> of disability yet..he is only 60 years old and a retired fire fighter
> paramedic.. as days go buy and he sits in jail..I have no idea how to help
> him? If I drop charges they will let him out possibly unless a judge decides
> not to..he doesnt belong in jail he belongs in a place to be evaluated
> at..thansk for your ears and advise...sunni
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> --- On Thu, 6/4/09, Lisa Weaver <landsweaver@ yahoo.com> wrote:
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> From: Lisa Weaver <landsweaver@ yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [wernicke-korsakoff_syndrome ] Re: my dad has reached a point,
> I dont know what to do next?
> To: wernicke-korsakoff_ syndrome@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Thursday, June 4, 2009, 8:12 PM
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> Hi Sunni - sorry I don't check this very often but just saw your messages.
> My dad has been living w/ WKS for about 5 yrs now.  He lives in assisted
> living - which is paid for through Social Security Disabilty, he doesn't
> have any money.  I too am a single mom & the asstd living facility gives me
> peace of mind that he won't hurt himself, get lost or burn the house down.
> Although I feel HUGE guilt over him being there.  He is allowed to smoke
> there & boy does he ever..  Like a chimney!! The places that allow smoking
> are dwindling but they are out there.  Adult Protective Services & social
> services helped him (&me) tremendously in the beginning i recommend you talk
> to them.
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> Good luck - this is a horrible disease - nobody seems to know a lot about.
> I'm hoping some of the stem cell research happening now will one day be able
> to help our loved ones.
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> ________________________________
> From: sunniibunnii71 <sunniibunnii71@ yahoo.com>
> To: wernicke-korsakoff_ syndrome@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:27:41 PM
> Subject: [wernicke-korsakoff _syndrome] Re: my dad has reached a point, I
> dont know what to do next?
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> --- In wernicke-korsakoff_ syndrome@ yahoogroups. com, Nora <dulcineasmom@
> ...> wrote:
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>> Hi Sunni,
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>> I'm still here.  Have you thought of a "live-in" nurse's aide or some such
>> caregiver?
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>> Good Luck
>> Nora
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> Thanks for the great ideas..and replies...were still up in the air on what
> to do afraid aides, and ass living will take his pension that he has debts
> to pay he is responsible for. here is how today was...took dad to cash 45.00
> irs check he lost his ID so we had to go far away bank and he was over drawn
> 500.00 but they did it they gave him 45.00 anyway and said he can come in
> Friday and dispute some of the penalties from his act..so that will help
> some..his car must get out of the impound it costs 20.00 daily..baught a 24
> pack of beer for 14.00 a 1 pack cigs tomorrow withe his 15,00 he has left i
> will gethis 22.00 carton of cigs in town..while im there taking my mom to
> emergency room finally for her leg..I told dad I will not be able to check
> on him thursday at all Im booked solid and have apts in new braunfels..so we
> got some tv dinners he likes etc..when i unloaded the car my seat was
> soaking wet...URINE. .i just now GOT HOME AND CLEANED OUT THE CAR AND ITS
> BED TIME, more tome i havent been abloe top spend with my 7 year old son..
> already another day from hell...last night he walked to my house for
> beer...so the message to get accross here is he must have moey for beer and
> cigs and i must be the one to deliver them to him since i live close by..so
> DANI..we need to get a budget for his cigs and beer set up...so i wont have
> to take chanes of him walking to my house in all hours of the night..and him
> stealing from me...he goes through my purse and glopve box for change..he
> cant be trusted..my mom agreed to care for him..as long as she gets a few
> breaksaway too..sounds reasonable to me..and fair...he is nice..ande easier
> to get along with but he wants to paint the house...inside witha skeleton
> and a red heart..ha I said lets get poster board and he said ok..he heard
> jennifers husband shooting his gun the other day...now he wants to
> shoot..hgis gun out side too at cans..hell no...what about kids animals..he
> is fine if he has what he needs..for now..let s just wait and see how
> keeping him satisfied..etc. .one day at a time..and I do need to vent...so
> this is me venting..ha my mom says as long as they have a phone she will be
> there for emergencies. .no one has any money left...does anyone in the
> family want to help witha cheap phone?? so they have it?? that would be a
> big help...I lfte the house at 715got home at 815...doing stuff for everyone
> but Phoenix and myself..these days will grow old fast..we need a plan and as
> long as he has $ for his habits he willbe ok and that means so will I<>..
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