Your father is a danger to other people and should be put in a place
where he can't hurt other people.

One reliable place to contain people who are not able to stop
themselves from being violent is jail. The physical safety of your
mom, you and others is MUCH more important than keeping a violent man
out of jail, no matter what the reason is for his violence.

I'm very concerned that he could hurt or kill someone. Unfortunately,
when the police was talked out of taking him, a valuable opportunity
may have been lost to protect your family from him at this time. Your
father may no longer be able to control himself at this time.

If he does anything violent again, including threatening violence, he
should be taken to a place where he can't hurt anyone. That's
probably jail, though there *may* be a locked hospital ward available
to contain and protect him.

My drinking father at one point started having hallucinations and
delusions, thinking there were people on his houseboat who weren't
actually there and thinking they were trying to steal it from him. He
woke up his tenant complaining about what he thought was going on, and
the tenant eventually called the sheriff's department. The deputies
or an ambulance took him to the hospital and he was hospitalized for a
few days; he gradually lost the delusion.

Thus your father's delusional thinking could be due to his continued
drinking and lack of nutrients that his brain badly needed, like
thiamine. I don't know whether your father definitely has
Wernicke-Korsakoff's, but if he does, it's associated with lesions in
a specific area of the head anyway.

There's a possibility that something else is going on with your father
neurologically that is contributing to his violent behavior, but it's
still critical for him to be stopped from hurting anyone in the
meantime.


Dana








or find out if there is a locked hospital ward for people that he can
be sent to.





On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 2:12 AM, sunni stalbird
<sunniibunnii71@...> wrote:
>
>
> Thank you I agree!!! he just walked to my house 10miles..and was violent and
> aggressive threw myportable fireplace at me and was ready to attack...he has
> never beem that way before i called 911, my mm talked thepolice out of
> taking him, soshe agreed to go to his house until monday when we hope to get
> him in for an evaluation..this week alone he has stolen the car had it
> impounded for leavingit, athen jkail for walking to my house and getting a
> PI from policeand today..showingup to attack me..he is no longer the dad i
> once knew he is someone elses..and he needs help or a [place to keep himfrom
> huring his self or others..Thank you so much for your support..I cant
> explain the sudden mental change he thinkshe has money like 300,000 in
> collectable coins, he can cash in..and buy cars..travel etc etc..he has no
> idea he has no money..he wont belive it, he came here tonight demanding his
> check book and my car so he could go to the beach..thepolice drove him and
> my mom home..hopefully he wont try and walk over again and she canm handle
> him and his delsuions..this has takenits toll..I want off this
> ride..asap..goodnighty
>
> --- On Sat, 5/30/09, Carrie <ibcarrieat@...> wrote:
>
> From: Carrie <ibcarrieat@...>
> Subject: Re: [wernicke-korsakoff_syndrome] where can my dad get mental care
> and be safe?
> To: wernicke-korsakoff_syndrome@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, May 30, 2009, 11:58 PM
>
> Sunni,
> I agree with Dana. I too ended up calling in Adult Protective Services
> on my dad. They had him placed in the nursing home and I signed the
> papers. He was deemed a danger not only to himself, but others as well.
> He could no longer care for himself. But he lived alone and several
> hundred miles away.
> I don't recall what your dad's living situation is.
> There are no easy answers and I can tell you it doesn't get any easier
> if he's going to continue to drink. As hard as this is for me to say, I
> speak from experience and from the heart. Alcoholism is a very selfish
> disease. My dad chose the alcohol over his family. Yes, it's a disease
> but HE made that choice as has your dad. As a single mom, you have a lot
> on your plate. This affects Phoenix in ways you may never know. And that
> my friend is something you have to consider. Your son needs his mom
> too.
> Take care of yourself and stay strong,
> Carrie
> On Sat, 30 May 2009 8:59 pm, sunniibunnii71 wrote:
>> another miserable long day!!!started at 10 looking for dad he walked
>> off again...a neighbor boy said he saw him walking in his rebel hat
>> with no shirt headed in the woods..I drove all over called Camal county
>> sheriff..to be aware finally drove up on him saw a police car with
>> lights near bridge. dad got in my car I took him to Methodist ER..I
>> asked them to get ammonia level and explained, no UTI..he was free and
>> clear only had a high blood alcohol.. his mental state of mind..they
>> ran needed tests and he was fine..all levels of blood were on the
>> correct ranges. they gave him 2 ativans and he passed out for several
>> hours...he woke up said he was ready to go to the beach, and get his
>> new cars., etc..still makes no sense I explained he has no money he has
>> debts and he cant buy 3 cars..and tried explaining he is out of his
>> mind,.,and if he continues to walk the streets he Will be in danger of
>> getting hit by a car , or picked up by police and jail time..etc..he
>> flat doesn't get it..so i took him home,,.its only a matter of time
>> before he wanders again..I plan to take him to the neurologist Dr Gadza
>> who is also a psychiatrist who can evaluate him and see where he is
>> mentally and let us know..that is my plan for now..if he hasn't hitch
>> hiked off to the beach...and gone by then..he is out of control and we
>> are powerless over him,...even when my mom stayed and tried to prevent
>> him from going off...she couldn't he gets violent..this has been an
>> exhausting mess...talk soon
>>
>>
> Me
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