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Re: [wernicke-korsakoff_syndrome] Re: Im not looking to find a way to get him to quit drinking, Im loo

Hello Terri & everyone else who may be reading, sorry to hear your going through this too. Does your husband only drink beer? or liquor too? My dad drinks beer and liquor non stop, he even wakes up in the night to drink. I didn't think beer alone could cause wks, but I am not sure I guess every ones body metabolizes differently. I know its crucial for alcoholics to take thiamine and riboflavin to supplement there diet, even tho that really hasn't helped my dad. I too am trying to better understand all of this. I am trying to explain to my dad, tis is what he has he has many disease, RSd ( reflex sympathetic dystrophy) WKS, alcoholic neuropathy, I am sure his liver is a mess too. When Carrie explained that part of the disease is not recognizing it. That  concerned me even more, to top it off were dealing with people who don't even realize what they have and its not denial, its part of the disease. I cant believe such a strong man with so much knowledge and intelligence could be fooled into this.  He doesnt remeber things, I took him to see his new home for the 1 st time after 1 year of working on it and he cant remeber even going there, he repeats himself,  the only reason he eats a meal is when he is at his parents house, he is aware that something isnt quit rite he forgets his atm card, and words come to him like it was the 1 st time he ever heard a word, I know he knew at one time so he calls to ask whet the definition is and I tell him, he really beloves its a new word sent to him for some reason. I belive its his mind trying to remeber words he once knew and recognized.  He has a new look in his eye, almost like no bodys there anymore, a blank look almost like he is trying to pretend he knowswhat is goingon but really doesnt anymore. I am not fooled by this I know him. He tries make us belive he is fine andok, when he is not at all. I guess being such a chronic alcoholic for so many years you learn to hide things from others so well, like acting. I never knew when he was drunk for years he was that good at hiding it. Now that he has gotten older he has lost his smoothness and it shows, its no longer something he tries to hide, I can hear his brown bag crackle when I walk by and him jerk like it was nothing. I know when he drinks vodka he falls down looses balance andits notjust from beiong drunk its also from severe nerve damage, the list goes on and on..he has only knowns how to live his life messed up , he never knew any other way of life, so its familiar to him and its what worked for him for so long, no use in teaching an old dog new tricks i guess..but sometimes I wish I could just lock him up and ween him off alcohol and allow him to smoke marijuana, i know its not any better, one addiction to another as most would say..not good, but maybe in his case it would be better?? I am not so sure whats really  ok and not ok anymore whenit comes to my dad, Im looking for answers to as we all are..is anything working for any of us yet?? The only hope is having others to talk with and share there wisdom. This group truly helps me along the ride. There are so many millions of different illnesses and diseases when you read a PDR most can imagine having at least one or a few. So, that is what keeps me hanging on for a possible mistake somewhere or anywhere, always wondering if it something else, but I finally realized when you put ethanol in high amounts its gonna effect you this way, and this is the result. If he only knew what he was doing one more time and could see the shape he is in and have enough sanity left to stop and say I'm killing myself. The only way out is to stop now. But that's not going to happen. So, i am taking the words of wisdom from other people who have the same experience guiding me through. were all in this together we share the  same fears, realizations, outcomes. (denial, anger, grief, acceptance) when we go through all of our own stages we are finally free in one way or another. I never imagined my father choosing this path. I know someday he will know and understand how he screwed up and took the easy way out of life, hurting UN intentionally the ones who loved him and stood by him the most. I choose to try and remember my strong firefighter dad who was so together. Even tho its been so many years since I saw him that way. Sorry I got lost in my writing. I will stop now..you are all in my thoughts and prayers and maybe just once there will be some sort of happy ending in one of our WKS survivor's if there is any?

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From: Terri r <queenteree2@...>
To: wernicke-korsakoff_syndrome@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 3, 2008 10:19:45 AM
Subject: [wernicke-korsakoff_syndrome] Re: Im not looking to find a way to get him to quit drinking, Im loo

I sympathize with all of you.  I am married to a 54 year old alcoholic who has alcoholic liver disease and whose mind I believe is totally not there.  My husband continues to drink 30 beers per day, repeats himself over and over, doesn't remember five minutes later what I tell him, etc.  On April 17th, our GP told him that if he didn't stop drinking, he'd be dead in 6 mos. to a year.  GP said worst case scenario is if he lives longer, cause he could just "linger on" for 3 years.  I know my husband will never stop drinking (has been in rehab and went to AA, stops only for a week at best).  I'm just really wondering how to find out if he truly  has Wernecke's or any other alcohol related illness (such as neuropathy) without him going to a dr., since he won't go to one (they always give him "bad news" as he says).  Last week I went to our GP alone to talk about my husband.  GP said that hubby could linger on, doesn't know how long, told me to say three words to him "apple, penny, chair", talk to him for 5 mins. then ask him what the words were.  I did that, hubby couldn't remember any of them.  It's hard to tell whether he can't remember anything cause he's soooo drunk all the time or if it's Werneckes.  He is also making up stories like how he had breakfast w/his boss (his boss doesn't even like him), how they all know he drinks at work, but it's ok, they're gonna give him extra time off and how they always praise his work performance.  Any suggestions from all of you would help if you can help me figure out a way to tell whether it's drunkenness talking or Wernicke's.  Thanks.  And you're all in my prayers. 

Terri





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I sympathize with all of you.&nbsp; I am married to a 54 year old alcoholic who has alcoholic liver disease and whose mind I believe is totally not...
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Since he's still drinking, I think it would be hard. My dad did the same things about stories. We didn't know they were stories at the time. When he was...
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Thank you so much for listening and for your help. He does have trouble walking at times, but I attribute that to being drunk. His eyes sometimes go off in...
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... My father's ability to walk changed depending on whether he was drinking, recovering or sober. He would shuffle, or take extremely short steps when...
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Hello Terri & everyone else who may be reading, sorry to hear your going through this too. Does your husband only drink beer? or liquor too? My dad drinks beer...
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