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Re: [wernicke-korsakoff_syndrome] Re: How much is too much?

Carrie,
Thanks for the reply.He went from the hospital to the
nursing home for 2 years and then moved into own place
a yr a go. In all that time he has never stopped
drinking, just changed what he is drinking (cider for
vodka) and more of it! I am a court of Protection
'Deputy' for my dad which is more than POA (he lacks
capacity to make me POA - Hence why had to go through
COP).
I looked up alcoholic neuropathy last night which can
go hand in hand with wks and think my dad has that
too. He has the symptoms anyway.
It is very therapeutic writing on here as I feel that
nobody else understands the emotional rollercoaster we
go through.
I know it's his choice to drink but it is hard when he
can't see the damage it is doing....
Guess i'll just wait and see what happens next!
--- carrie buckingham <ibcarrieat@...> wrote:

> Dave,
> Tell me more about your dad's life in the nursing
> home? Does he get involved in activities? Socialize
> with anyone? Room with anyone? How long has he been
> in the home? Aren't you back east some where? I
> wonder why infections affect WKS patients like this.
> Sounds like another question for the doctor. And
> Dave, I appreciate your ramblings (lol). I find
> reading others stories very therapeutic.
>
> Kaye,
> I think Dave, myself, Amanda and probably many
> others here can attest to our loved one being in a
> home, making a full recovery and being released ONLY
> to start drinking all over again. It's a vicious
> cycle. My dad has been in and out of hospitals,
> nursing homes, detox, behavioral hospitals, mental
> health hospitals and the list goes on and on. My dad
> had several chances to stay clean but HE chose not
> to. Even now I play mind games with myself,
> wondering how my dad would do in assisted living. It
> wouldn't work. He won't let it. He's already told us
> he likes to drink because it makes him feel good.
> Kaye, you're going to be in for a long hard ride if
> you dad continues to drink. Brace yourself. Stay
> strong. Try to get Power Of Attorney when you can. I
> made the mistake of only getting medical POA. That
> was enough to have my dad put into a nursing home
> but not enough to take care of his financial
> affairs. It all sucks. The guilt. The helplessness.
> But I also have my own life to
> deal with. As a single parent, it's tough.
> Carrie
>
>
> d_gramenz <dgramenz@...> wrote:
> Hi Kaye,
>
> I don't post here very often but I am always
> lurking. I'm sorry,
> but I don't have any advice for you either...I just
> figured I would
> pipe in that I have dealt with that frustration
> that you are feeling
> for years (actually decades in the case of my
> father - 1986.) It
> truly is a decision that they need to reach by
> themselves as they
> will not listen. I could tell my dad the sky was
> blue and he would
> argue with me until the end of time that it was
> purple (or insert any
> other color you choose.) When my mom was still
> alive and fighting
> breast cancer that had spread to her lungs, he
> would continue to
> smoke in the house, dening that the cigarette smoke
> would harm her
> already cancerous lungs. The levels of frustration
> just multiply on
> an exponential level as reason and logic is
> something that just
> escapes them!
>
> All I could do is let things go and realize it's
> the disease and
> the dementia that produces such irrational thought,
> and until he
> deteriorates enough to be permanently placed in a
> nursing home (like
> my father currently is), there isn't anything that
> can be said or
> done that will change their minds on the drink :(
> It doesn't always
> work (letting go), and there are many times still
> that I just end up
> so furious with him and his attitude that I have to
> walk away and not
> check in on him for a good month. It sucks!
>
> I probably should have added this next bit in
> another post, but in
> regards to I think it was Carrie talking about
> changes in behavior, I
> know whenever my dad gets any kind of lung
> infection his behavior can
> radically change. His words slur, he can barely
> walk, and is very
> confused. Also, if he has a seizure then it can
> take a good week or
> two for him to get back to the level that he was at
> prior to the
> seizure. I don't know if that is anything similar
> to the episode your
> dad is having, but I know I have seen similar
> behavior out of my dad.
>
> Anyways, I don't know if my ramblings have helped
> at all, but I
> figured I would just pipe in my two cents.
>
> Best regards and good luck to everyone!
>
> Dave
>
> --- In wernicke-korsakoff_syndrome@yahoogroups.com,
> Kaye Wood
> <apollo210c@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> > I took my dad for his check up with his
> consultant
> > last week and told him about the social workers
> plan
> > to reapply for my dads driving license. At least
> the
> > Consultant was realistic in the problems he could
> see
> > with that process! He asked me how much he was
> > drinking at the moment...it's at least 2 litres
> of
> > vodka and a couple of litres of cider a week
> which he
> > then estimated to be about 80 plus units of
> alcohol
> > (over three times the recommended rate). I asked
> if he
> > would deteriorate quickly if he continued to
> drink
> > that amount but continued to eat well (which he
> seems
> > to be doing) and take his thiamine. He said he
> would
> > deteriorate quite quickly over a period of
> months. I
> > don't know why, but that shocked me. I seem to
> have
> > lost all perspective on how much is too much (i
> guess
> > was comparing to what he used to drink) because I
> > didn't think, relatively speaking that that was a
> > lot....
> > Tried to get him to swap the vodka for cider
> > today...that didn't work. Anyone got any ideas?
> I'm
> > clutching at straws I know
> > Kaye
> >
> >
> >
>
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Tue Mar 11, 2008 4:46 pm

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Hi, I took my dad for his check up with his consultant last week and told him about the social workers plan to reapply for my dads driving license. At least...
Kaye Wood
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Mar 9, 2008
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Kaye, Myself as well as others on this board could tell you what will happen if your dad continues to drink and how fast he will deteriorate. From the time my...
carrie buckingham
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Mar 9, 2008
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Hi Kaye, I don't post here very often but I am always lurking. I'm sorry, but I don't have any advice for you either...I just figured I would pipe in that I...
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Mar 10, 2008
5:46 pm

Thanks Dave and Carrie for the posts It's just so damn frustrating that he went to a Nursing Home and 'improved' so now lives on his own with support and that...
Kaye Wood
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Mar 10, 2008
6:02 pm

Dave, Tell me more about your dad's life in the nursing home? Does he get involved in activities? Socialize with anyone? Room with anyone? How long has he been...
carrie buckingham
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Mar 11, 2008
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Carrie, Thanks for the reply.He went from the hospital to the nursing home for 2 years and then moved into own place a yr a go. In all that time he has never...
Kaye Wood
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Mar 11, 2008
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Carrie, He has been in the nursing home for almost a year now. It is frustrating because he is on a floor that has a lot of non-social people (Alzhiemers,...
d_gramenz
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Mar 11, 2008
6:12 pm

Dave, My dad is in a nursing home also. It will be two years on July 5th. This time it's for keeps. My dad went the same route as yours. First the locked...
carrie buckingham
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Mar 12, 2008
2:47 am

Carrie, I am so sorry to hear this. I keep reading the pots when Ican, and i know someday my dad will be there too. he stopped Vodka now that he is needed and...
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Mar 12, 2008
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Carrie, out of curiosity, is your dad on any kind of anti-depressants? Have the dosage levels of any of his meds been changed? I know there was a brief time...
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