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#7999 From: Sheila Davis <sheilamdavis18@...>
Date: Tue Mar 4, 2008 9:33 pm
Subject: urostomy
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hi my name is sheila and I am a newby to the group. I have been advised to have a urostomy because of chronic repeated urinary infections which are making me quite ill. Has anyone else had a urostomy for this reason and could share their experience? I would be so grateful to hear your experience.Thank you Sheila


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#7994 From: "christine" <silver_spoon50@...>
Date: Wed Jan 16, 2008 7:53 pm
Subject: Re: Rectal Discharge
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--- In ukostomysupport@yahoogroups.com, "Wayne R. Adkins"
<greenlantern108@...> wrote:
>
> hi wayne i have a iliostomy thru having a twisted bowel.your ok i get
that discharge from rectrum its just mucus build up hope  you get my
e.maail .if you want to chat i am on msn .liamlee07@...
be nice to have a friend with same probs .bye for now christine england

> I'm seeking the advice/insight of any ostomates who still have the
> rectal portion of their digestive tracts. I had an emergency ostomy
> 5+ years ago when my large intestine burst due to crohn's disease. I
> had the majority of my tranverse & descending colon removed, but i
> still have the sigmoid colon & rectum (though non-functoinal). In the
> past 5 years, I have had occasional discharge from from my rectum,
> but more recently it has become an almost daily experience. Anyone
> out there with similar experience? If so, please write me at
> greenlantern108@... Wayne
>

#7993 From: ukostomysupport@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun Jan 6, 2008 8:55 pm
Subject: Ostomy from Crohn's or colitis?, 1/7/2008, 9:00 pm
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Reminder from:   ukostomysupport Yahoo! Group
 
Title:   Ostomy from Crohn's or colitis?
 
Date:   Monday January 7, 2008
Time:   9:00 pm - 10:00 pm
Repeats:   This event repeats every other week.
Location:   http://www.crohnszone.co.uk
Notes:   Crohn's Zone chat- come along and meet others with IBD and an ostomy. Chat is 9.00pm UK time (4pm EST) . Time zone converter at : http://www.timezoneconverter.com/cgi-bin/tzc.tzc
 
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#7992 From: phsonksen@...
Date: Sun Jan 6, 2008 1:10 pm
Subject: Re: [UK Ostomy Support ] joint and leg pains
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As a life-long sufferer of 'reactive arthropathy' I would not be surprised if this is the case. If it's anything like mine it waxes and wanes with some provocative causes but sometimes for reasons I never understand. In my cases it's been non progressive and is less troublesome now.
 
Peter C4/5 incomplete - just walking short distances with Rollator
71 skiing accdent in Utah 27/12/2002. Urostomy for bladder cancer 5/2004. Retired physician, Winchester UK.

#7991 From: "norman.dale" <norman.dale@...>
Date: Sun Jan 6, 2008 9:50 am
Subject: Re: joint and leg pains
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--- In ukostomysupport@yahoogroups.com, "rachel622650" <newton646@...>
wrote:
>Hi Rachel, all I can say is keep badgering the Doctors, I had a
urostomy two years ago, and recently I have had a pain in my ankle and
in my calf, after a lot of junping up and down screaming, I was sent to
the Marsden where they found the trouble was another tumour, I am now
having radio therepy on it to shrink it, so dont be put off you must
find out for sure what it is.
Happy new year to all you ostomates.

> Hi all another new member here. My hubby has had an ileostomy for 12
> yrs but what is troubling him now is the pains in his joints and
legs,
> has anyone else had anything like this? we know a form of reactive
> arthritis is associated with uc but the docs are reluctant to accept
> this. Any info would be helpful
>

#7990 From: "rachel622650" <newton646@...>
Date: Sat Jan 5, 2008 9:55 pm
Subject: joint and leg pains
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Hi all another new member here. My hubby has had an ileostomy for 12
yrs but what is troubling him now is the pains in his joints and legs,
has anyone else had anything like this? we know a form of reactive
arthritis is associated with uc but the docs are reluctant to accept
this. Any info would be helpful

#7983 From: PATTY MOON-KANDL <moon_kandl@...>
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2007 3:19 pm
Subject: Fwd: Fw: breast cancer awareness
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#7982 From: ukostomysupport@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun Sep 30, 2007 8:58 pm
Subject: Ostomy from Crohn's or colitis?, 10/1/2007, 9:00 pm
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Title:   Ostomy from Crohn's or colitis?
 
Date:   Monday October 1, 2007
Time:   9:00 pm - 10:00 pm
Repeats:   This event repeats every other week.
Location:   http://www.crohnszone.co.uk
Notes:   Crohn's Zone chat- come along and meet others with IBD and an ostomy. Chat is 9.00pm UK time (4pm EST) . Time zone converter at : http://www.timezoneconverter.com/cgi-bin/tzc.tzc
 
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#7981 From: "blackpooljean" <blackpooljean@...>
Date: Mon Sep 24, 2007 4:14 am
Subject: Re: [UK Ostomy Support ] itching
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I also use a convatec pouch and find the stomahesive base wonderful for
my skin so I suggest you try a  stomahesive weafer by convatec under
your appliance or just place some around the area of itching.  You will
find that stomahesive is really healing for the skin.  In Australia we
can get stomahesive wafers 10 cm x 10 cm order no 21712.  I find them
invaluable to have on hand.
--- In ukostomysupport@yahoogroups.com, christine rooney
<silver_spoon50@...> wrote:
>
> hi ian.i have itching ,but theres a stuff called cavilon,there like
lolipops and you rub them round the skin before applying the
pouche...christine.
>
> Ian scoz34@... wrote: Someone please help.
> I use the convatec pouch and flange which has the micropore around the
> hydrocoloid. If I try to use a different pouch with a smaller adhesive
> area the area that used to be covered by the larger flange begins
> itching within 15 minutes of being exposed to the air. The itch is so
> bad thatI have to revert to my original pouches just to stop the itch.
> I could understand if the area had been contaminated with faeces but
> it is not. Has anyone any remedies to stop this severe itching has it
> drives me mad.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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#7980 From: christine rooney <silver_spoon50@...>
Date: Sun Sep 23, 2007 10:39 pm
Subject: Re: [UK Ostomy Support ] itching
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hi ian.i have itching ,but theres a stuff called cavilon,there like lolipops and you rub them round the skin before applying the pouche...christine.

Ian <scoz34@...> wrote:
Someone please help.
I use the convatec pouch and flange which has the micropore around the
hydrocoloid. If I try to use a different pouch with a smaller adhesive
area the area that used to be covered by the larger flange begins
itching within 15 minutes of being exposed to the air. The itch is so
bad thatI have to revert to my original pouches just to stop the itch.
I could understand if the area had been contaminated with faeces but
it is not. Has anyone any remedies to stop this severe itching has it
drives me mad.



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#7979 From: christine rooney <silver_spoon50@...>
Date: Sun Sep 23, 2007 10:36 pm
Subject: Re: [UK Ostomy Support ] itching
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hello i sufffer with itching  ,and you can get some cavilon ,ther like lolipops you rub them on the skin before you put pouch on there sreat.hope you get some bye for now christine.

Nancy Heard <dnheard@...> wrote:
I don't quite understand but why don't you use the Convetec pouch? Is it
the pouch touching your skin that causes the itching?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ian " <scoz34@tiscali.co.uk>
To: <ukostomysupport@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 2:46 PM
Subject: [UK Ostomy Support ] itching

> Someone please help.
> I use the convatec pouch and flange which has the micropore around the
> hydrocoloid. If I try to use a different pouch with a smaller adhesive
> area the area that used to be covered by the larger flange begins
> itching within 15 minutes of being exposed to the air. The itch is so
> bad thatI have to revert to my original pouches just to stop the itch.
> I could understand if the area had been contaminated with faeces but
> it is not. Has anyone any remedies to stop this severe itching has it
> drives me mad.
>
>
>
> Please do not post any links to commercial sites.This will get you banned.
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>



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#7973 From: PATTY MOON-KANDL <moon_kandl@...>
Date: Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:10 pm
Subject: stick out your tongue
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My friend sent this to me and encouraged me to post it and spread the word. I agree. If everyone can remember something this simple, we could save some folks. Seriously.. Please read:
 
STROKE IDENTIFICATION:
 
During a BBQ, a friend stumbled and took a little fall - she assured everyone that she was fine (they offered to call paramedics) and just tripped over a brick because of her new shoes. They got her cleaned up and got her a new plate of food - while she appeared a bit shaken up, Ingrid went about enjoying herself the rest of the evening. Ingrid's husband called later telling everyone that his wife had been taken to the hospital - (at 6:00pm , Ingrid passed away.) She had suffered a stroke at the BBQ. Had they known how to identify the signs of a stroke, perhaps Ingrid would be with us today. Some don't die. They end up in a helpless, hopeless condition instead.
 
It only takes a minute to read this...
 
A neurologist says that if he can get to a stroke victim within 3 hours he can totally reverse the effects of a stroke...totally. He said the trick was getting a stroke recognized, diagnosed, and then getting the patient medically cared for within 3 hours, which is tough.
 
RECOGNIZING A STROKE
 
Thank God for the sense to remember the "3" steps, STR . Read and Learn!
 
Sometimes symptoms of a stroke are difficult to identify. Unfortunately, the lack of awareness spells disaster. The stroke victim may suffer severe brain damage when people nearby fail to recognize the symptoms of a stroke
 
Now doctors say a bystander can recognize a stroke by asking three simple questions:
 
S * Ask the individual to SMILE.
 
T * Ask the person to TALK to SPEAK A SIMPLE SENTENCE(Coherently) (I.e. It is sunny out today)
 
R * Ask him or her to RAISE BOTH ARMS.
 
NOTE: Another 'sign' of a stroke is this: Ask the person to 'stick' out their
 
tongue. If the tongue is 'crooked', if it goes to one side or the other
 
that is also an indication of a stroke. If he or she has trouble with
 
ANY ONE of these tasks, call 911 immediately !! and describe the
 
symptoms to the dispatcher.
 
A cardiologist says if everyone who gets this e-mail sends it to 10 people;
you can bet that at least one life will be saved


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#7972 From: "Shaz" <shaz@...>
Date: Sat Aug 25, 2007 10:57 am
Subject: Saturday Ostomy Chat
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Main Chat is Saturday 8pm UK Time which converts to:

2pm US Central (Saturday)
12pm US Pacific
3pm US Eastern
5am Sydney (Sunday)
3am Perth

All ostomates welcome, whatever the condition, whatever the age.
Maybe you face a possible ostomy in the future? Or simply want more
information? All are welcome.

Want to chat another time? The room is open 24/7 and is usually
busy.

Online clock to help with those time zones!!
Now you can check what time it is in the UK:
http://www.ostomylinks.co.uk/chattimes.html

If you have a serious ostomy support question please do not hesitate
to ask us. We'll stop fooling around and support you as best as we
can. Its a fun, friendly atmosphere in here, but we all know the
seriousness of the ostomy topics. We respect that this room is here
to support everyone and their ostomy needs.

=========

To join Ostomyland via java go to:
http://www.ostomysupport.info/chat.html (Jason's page)

which is on Jason's Living With a Colostomy Website:
http://www.ostomysupport.info

Or http://www.autoimmunity.co.uk/chat/ostomyland2.html (Kathy's back
up page)

and join us in the ostomyland chat room from there. A free-to-use
Java Client is embedded into the page that is dead easy to use.
Nothing to download.

=========

If you use mIRC, or Besirc or some other IRC Chat Client, here's the
server details you need to connect to Ostomyland:

Server: irc.fef.net
Port: 6667
Channel: #ostomyland

If you prefer a specially configured version of mIRC is now
available which will take people directly to the new channel on the
new server. The download link can be found at:
http://ostomyland.com/mircfef/mirc_ostomyland_fef_v62.exe

WebTV Users, you need to use your own TV based software to join us -
included free as part of the WebTV browser software. Use the server
and port and channel
info when requested by your software to join.

=========

We often have members who have never been in a chatroom before.
Please don't be nervous. These pages will show you exactly what to
expect and what to do. If you're still unsure after you've looked at
them, email me for help.

http://www.ostomylinks.co.uk/chathelp14.html

=========

Wrong time-zone for you? We usually get a small group in 6pm - 9pm
Perth (Australia) time, 11am - 2pm UK time on SUNDAY.
- come and join us.

=========

The channel is open 24/7 for general chit chat or ostomy talk
during the week.
If it's quiet, stay a while - someone else may join the room soon.

=========

Look forward to seeing you in the meeting Saturday night, the
weekend or later on in the week.

Shaz :)

http://www.ostomates.org

#7971 From: "anangelseyes" <Af12dlite@...>
Date: Fri Aug 24, 2007 4:35 pm
Subject: Re: [UK Ostomy Support ] hello all
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What wonderful news!   There is life after... most everything.  I'm very happy life didn't end for you and in fact, seems to be blossoming! 
 
Angel hugs
 
Tina
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 8:27 PM
Subject: [UK Ostomy Support ] hello all

I haven't been on this site for along time as I had a lot of ups and downs in my personal life but I thought I would share my good news. My husband of 23 years had an affair and we  separated two years ago and I was completely devastated. I got so depressed I wished that life would end for me.
 
But in the last couple of months I met the most wonderful man. Of course the worry was there of when should I tell him about my iliostomy which I have had now for seven years. After our third date I was getting very fond of him so I decided to tell him then. He took it so well. Felt very sorry I had been so ill the iliostomy itself came secondary to him. He was very interested in the plumbing of it!!  we now have a very loving and sexual relationship and I am so happy. Even if things don't work out for us he has given me so much confidence in myself and my idea of body image.
So arent I lucky at the age of 49 to have met the most caring, gorgeous and very sexy man.
So there is hope for us all after all

Lori <Lkin@...> wrote:

Hello, have you tried contacting the companies that you get your
supplies from? Like Hollister..
I had issues witht he bag breaking open too often and wrote them an
email,
they sent me new bags and supplies in return.
Maybe someone from the company might have an answer for you..
they want to sell the supplies, they must have a support system there.
Lori
--- In ukostomysupport@yahoogroups.com, tracy607336 <no_reply@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I was wondering if anyone out there has a solution for a retracted
> urostomy. Was at my Consultant the other day who has said he is



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#7970 From: bernie brennan <bernie609@...>
Date: Thu Aug 23, 2007 1:27 am
Subject: hello all
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I haven't been on this site for along time as I had a lot of ups and downs in my personal life but I thought I would share my good news. My husband of 23 years had an affair and we  separated two years ago and I was completely devastated. I got so depressed I wished that life would end for me.
 
But in the last couple of months I met the most wonderful man. Of course the worry was there of when should I tell him about my iliostomy which I have had now for seven years. After our third date I was getting very fond of him so I decided to tell him then. He took it so well. Felt very sorry I had been so ill the iliostomy itself came secondary to him. He was very interested in the plumbing of it!!  we now have a very loving and sexual relationship and I am so happy. Even if things don't work out for us he has given me so much confidence in myself and my idea of body image.
So arent I lucky at the age of 49 to have met the most caring, gorgeous and very sexy man.
So there is hope for us all after all

Lori <Lkin@...> wrote:

Hello, have you tried contacting the companies that you get your
supplies from? Like Hollister..
I had issues witht he bag breaking open too often and wrote them an
email,
they sent me new bags and supplies in return.
Maybe someone from the company might have an answer for you..
they want to sell the supplies, they must have a support system there.
Lori
--- In ukostomysupport@yahoogroups.com, tracy607336 <no_reply@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I was wondering if anyone out there has a solution for a retracted
> urostomy. Was at my Consultant the other day who has said he is



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#7969 From: "Lori" <Lkin@...>
Date: Wed Aug 22, 2007 9:52 pm
Subject: Re: Help!!
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Hello, have you tried contacting the companies that you get your
supplies from? Like Hollister..
I had issues witht he bag breaking open too often and wrote them an
email,
they sent me new bags and supplies in return.
Maybe someone from the company might have an answer for you..
they want to sell the supplies, they must have a support system there.
Lori
--- In ukostomysupport@yahoogroups.com, tracy607336 <no_reply@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I was wondering if anyone out there has a solution for a retracted
> urostomy. Was at my Consultant the other day who has said he is

#7968 From: "Lori" <Lkin@...>
Date: Wed Aug 22, 2007 9:57 pm
Subject: newbie here
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Hello! My name is Lori and I live in Connecticut with my husband and dog.
I had a colostomy two years ago to divert and heal a fixture. Unfortuanely, it didn't heal and I ended up having a ileostomy last Oct. when I got colitis, twice from an antibiotic, Amcef. They ended up removing the colostomy, removing my large intestine and replacing them with an ileostomy. I have issues now and then, like once a week with the bag..last night it became detached again! but other than that, dealing with it. I also go to dialysis three days a week, 4 .25 hours each time. I am on the kidney transplant list and waiting..could be 3-4 year wait.
Thank you for letting me join.
Lori
 

#7967 From: "Lori" <Lkin@...>
Date: Wed Aug 22, 2007 9:49 pm
Subject: members
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There are 315 members in this group?! My goodness, all the support I
can stand! Thank you for letting me join!
Lori

#7963 From: PATTY MOON-KANDL <moon_kandl@...>
Date: Sun Jul 15, 2007 9:21 pm
Subject: balloons
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Friends are like balloons; once you let them go, you can't get them
back. So I'm gonna tie you to my heart so I never lose you. Send this
to
all your friends including me and see how many you get back. Send this
balloon to everybody you like. You may also return it to me. If four
balloons are returned to you, something you have been waiting for a
long
time will happen!!!! Believe me...... It really happens! Send a lot of
little balloons to your friends!!!

May God bless you!


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#7962 From: "blackpooljean" <blackpooljean@...>
Date: Sun Jul 15, 2007 2:48 am
Subject: Meetings
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I have been living in Australia for 50 years and I am visiting
Blackpool (my birth place) in a few weeks.  I was wondering if there
are any ostomy meetings in that area.  I would appreciate any
information.

Thanking you,

Jean

#7959 From: "Stewart" <globetrotteruk@...>
Date: Wed Jul 4, 2007 3:01 pm
Subject: Re: itching
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Hi Ian....I understand what you say about the itching but I think
that's the micropore flange that causes it.I had the same problem some
years ago and still do occasionally.

I still use convatec two piece and it works for me.If you do have a
bad period of itching you can use a convatec flange made totally of
hydrocoloid matterial. This usually calm things down so you can return
to the normal system.

I wondered why you would want to change your appliance, is there some
other problem with it?

Stewart/Globey

#7958 From: "Nancy Heard" <dnheard@...>
Date: Sun Jul 1, 2007 11:35 pm
Subject: Re: [UK Ostomy Support ] itching
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I don't quite understand but why don't you use the Convetec pouch?  Is it
the pouch touching your skin that causes the itching?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ian " <scoz34@...>
To: <ukostomysupport@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 2:46 PM
Subject: [UK Ostomy Support ] itching


> Someone please help.
> I use the convatec pouch and flange which has the micropore around the
> hydrocoloid. If I try to use a different pouch with a smaller adhesive
> area the area that used to be covered by the larger flange begins
> itching within 15 minutes of being exposed to the air. The itch is so
> bad thatI have to revert to my original pouches just to stop the itch.
> I could understand if the area had been contaminated with faeces but
> it is not. Has anyone any remedies to stop this severe itching has it
> drives me mad.
>
>
>
> Please do not post any links to commercial sites.This will get you banned.
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

#7957 From: "Ian " <scoz34@...>
Date: Sun Jul 1, 2007 7:46 pm
Subject: itching
scoz34
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Someone please help.
I use the convatec pouch and flange which has the micropore around the
hydrocoloid. If I try to use a different pouch with a smaller adhesive
area the area that used to be covered by the larger flange begins
itching within 15 minutes of being exposed to the air. The itch is so
bad thatI have to revert to my original pouches just to stop the itch.
I could understand if the area had been contaminated with faeces but
it is not. Has anyone any remedies to stop this severe itching has it
drives me mad.

#7955 From: "Stewart" <globetrotteruk@...>
Date: Fri Jun 29, 2007 1:42 pm
Subject: To the New Members
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Apologies for the delay in approving your jouning the group but I've
been on hols for a few days.
Also to the new members check out the links there will probably be
something of interest to you in there.
Don't restrict your self to one group,join as many as you
can.......there's lots of info out there.
Take Care

Globey/Stewart

#7949 From: "anangelseyes" <Af12dlite@...>
Date: Tue May 22, 2007 3:33 am
Subject: Safety - HAND SANITIZER AND SMALL CHILDREN
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NOTE:  I CHECKED SNOPES.COM AND ALTHOUGH THE SCENARIO ON SNOPES IS DIFFERENT FROM THE STORY BELOW... THEY ARE BOTH EQUALLY SCARY.  PLEASE READ AND PASS ON.  http://www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/sanitizer.asp
 


For anybody with little kiddies around.

ALCOHOL POISONING - HAND SANITIZER
 
Ok.  I don't know where to begin because the last 2 days of my life have been such a blur.  Yesterday, My youngest daughter Halle who is 4, was rushed to the emergency room by her father for being severely lethargic and incoherent.  He was called to her school by the school secretary for being "very VERY sick."  He told me that when he arrived that Halle was barely sitting in the chair.  She couldn't hold her own head up and when he looked into her eyes, she couldn't focus them.
He immediately called me after he scooped her up and rushed her to the ER.  When we got there, they ran blood test after blood test and did x-rays, every test imaginable.  Her white blood cell count was normal, nothing was out of the ordinary.  The ER doctor told us that he had done everything that he could do so he was sending her to Saint Francis for further test.  
Right when we were leaving in the ambulance, her teacher had  come to the ER and after questioning Halle's classmates, we found out that she had licked hand sanitizer off her hand.  Hand sanitizer, of all things.  But it makes sense.  These days they have all kinds of different scents and when you have a curious child, they are going to put all kinds of things in their mouths.  
When we arrived at Saint Francis, we told the ER doctor there to check her blood alcohol level, which, yes we did get weird looks from it but they did it.  The results were her blood alcohol level was 85% and this was 6 hours after we first took her.  There's no telling what it would have been if we would have tested it at the first ER.  
Since then, her school and a few surrounding schools have taken this out of the classrooms of all the lower grade classes but what's to stop middle and high schoolers too?  After doing research off the internet, we have found out that it only takes 3 squirts of the stuff to be fatal in a toddler.  For her blood alcohol level to be so high was to compare someone her size to drinking something 120 proof.  So please PLEASE don't disregard this because I don't ever want anyone to go thru what my family and I have gone thru. Today was a little better but not much.  Please send this to everyone you know that has children or are having children.  It doesn't matter what age.  I just want people to know the dangers of this.
Thank you
Lacey Butler and family
 
 
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#7944 From: "Stewart" <globetrotteruk@...>
Date: Tue May 1, 2007 11:32 am
Subject: Para Stomal Hernias
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Hello Groupies,
You don't often hear from me but I am lurking in the background.

We have a lady new to the group who is having a problem with a
parastomal hernia. If there's anyone out there who has had experience
of this condition,can you look in and see if you can offer your
experiences with a view to helping Kathy.

Thanks
Stew/Globey

#7943 From: kathy torpey <kathytorpey@...>
Date: Mon Apr 30, 2007 12:58 am
Subject: Re: [UK Ostomy Support ] Re: parastomal hernia
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Stewart <globetrotteruk@...> wrote:
Hi Kathy,
Sorry to hear you're having such a bad time of it.Para stomal hernias
can be such a difficult problem to deal with.

Can you tell us what part of the world you live in,one of our
publications in the UK did an article on para stomal hernias.Where are
you Kathy?
Stew/globey



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#7941 From: "Stewart" <globetrotteruk@...>
Date: Sun Apr 29, 2007 8:22 pm
Subject: Re: parastomal hernia
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Hi Kathy,
  Sorry to hear you're having such a bad time of it.Para stomal hernias
can be such a difficult problem to deal with.

Can you tell us what part of the world you live in,one of our
publications in the UK did an article on para stomal hernias.Where are
you Kathy?
Stew/globey

#7940 From: "Pam Winger" <pam.winger081@...>
Date: Sun Apr 29, 2007 2:18 pm
Subject: Re: [UK Ostomy Support ] parastomal hernia
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Dear Kathy
   You certainly have been through the wringer! I have a urostomy and developed ahernia in the belly button after having the operation to repair it I was infected for a year,Two years later the hernia came back but now extended to the stoma site. Had surgery again and so far a success.Living with an ostomy is a new lease on life but also can add so many complications. I know I have not gone through as much as you but I do know the fear of the unknown.All I can tell you is take it one day at a time.Do not do any lifting(more than 10 pounds) be careful of strenuous exercise and have faith that the good Lord will get you through these difficult times. I will keep you in my prayers and if you need an ear please feel free.
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Subject: [UK Ostomy Support ] parastomal hernia

I am having
uble
I have had an ileostomy since 1985 with a few problems but I had been completely well since 1988 until recently
My doctor said I had a parastomal hernia
He operated and the very next day had to operate again
He told me to be very careful in the future
I feel like a cripple
Now he has told me that I have another hernia
He said that he will not operate unless I start having problems
I have had 6 bowel surgeries in the 80s
2 hernia surgeries in novembeer 06 and 3 ceaseareans in the 60s and 70s
He said that I should not have surgery and come back in 3 months
I am afraid
 
Kathy


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#7939 From: kathy torpey <kathytorpey@...>
Date: Sun Apr 29, 2007 1:47 pm
Subject: parastomal hernia
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I am having
uble
I have had an ileostomy since 1985 with a few problems but I had been completely well since 1988 until recently
My doctor said I had a parastomal hernia
He operated and the very next day had to operate again
He told me to be very careful in the future
I feel like a cripple
Now he has told me that I have another hernia
He said that he will not operate unless I start having problems
I have had 6 bowel surgeries in the 80s
2 hernia surgeries in novembeer 06 and 3 ceaseareans in the 60s and 70s
He said that I should not have surgery and come back in 3 months
I am afraid
 
Kathy


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