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Re: Digest Number 714   Message List  
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Who will evaluate the person being "concentrated" upon?

Will that evaluator be blinded as to the "concentrators"?
If not, how will you control for this potential evaluator-bias?

Will the person/patient be blinded?
If not, how will you control for placebo effect and for
self-reporting bias?

How will you determine whether the patient's improvement is
due to "concentrating" rather than any other therapy she is
getting or even for improvement over the natural history of
a self-limited disease?

Assuming you have a control group(not given "concentration" by
your participants), the absence of which will make any conclusions
you draw highly suspect, how will you control for others praying
or otherwise "concentrating" upon these control patients?

How will you know if there is any real difference in the "concentration"
and the non-concentrated-upon control-group given that large numbers
of unknown persons might be concentrating upon them, also?

The largest numbers of persons concentrating and thinking and praying
opon an ill person seem to occur when a head-of-state or well-known
celebrity become ill or injured.

If you consider cases such as JFK, RFK, Ronald Regan, Gerald Ford,
the Pope, John Lennon, Dale Earnhart, etc., who have been shot or
otherwise, seriously injured, you will realize that tens and up to
HUNDREDS of millions of people were aware and were incredibly
"concentrated" upon these people? More than you could ever likely
enroll in such an enterprise?

Have you considered identifying such injured celebrities and
determining whether their outcomes were better than that of the
general population with similar injuries, given the enormous
numbers of people "concentrating" upon them between the time
they were injured and the time they recovered or died?

bt



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