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JESUS NOT RESURRECTED
A PHYSICAL, LIVE JESUS!
After the due greetings of "Shaloam", Jesus begins calming the disciples' fear
for taking him to be a ghost. He says:
"Behold (have a look at) my hands and my feet, that it is I myself (I am the
same fellow, man!): handle me and see; for A SPIRIT has no flesh and bones, as
you see me have. . .
And he showed them his hands and his feet."
(HOLY BIBLE) Luke 24:39-40
What was the man trying to prove? That he had been resurrected from the dead?
— That he was a spirit? — What has the demonstration of hands and feet to do
with resurrection? "It is I MYSELF!" Can't you see, you fools!? "For a SPIRIT
..." — any spirit, has "NO flesh and bones, as YOU see ME have!". This is an
axiomatic, self-evident truth. You do not have to convince anybody, whether
Hindu, Muslim, Christian, Jew, Atheist or Agnostic. Everyone will acknowledge
without any proof that A SPIRIT HAS NO FLESH AND BONES!
WHY BELABOUR THE OBVIOUS?
Then why does Jesus need to belabour the point? It is simply because the
disciples were thinking that he had returned from the dead, that he had been
resurrected, and if so he would be in a spiritual form — A SPIRIT! And Jesus is
telling them that he is NOT that — he is not a spirit — NOT resurrected! The
above verses in their original, in every language, are so vivid, so simple, so
clear that you do not need a dictionary nor a D.D. to explain them to you.
Why don't you (dear reader) memorise just this one verse. In your own language
— English, Arabic, Zulu or Afrikaans, and with just this one verse you can take
the wind out of the missionaries' sail. You can "CRACK HIS SKULL", exactly as
young David, with his little pebble did to Goliath. The pleasure is yours… Allah
is giving you the opportunity, in this day and age to disabuse the Christian
mind from his fantasies!
I have asked learned giants of Christendom to tell me whether in their
language, when a man says, "A Spirit has NO Flesh and Bones," that it means — A
Spirit HAS Flesh and Bones! In debates, no opponent of mine has ever had the
courage to tackle the question. As if pretending that the words were never
uttered.
VIVID EXPLANATION ... I AM ALIVE!
If 1 tell you in English that "Because I have flesh and bones — I am not a
SPIRIT, I am not a GHOST, I am not a SPOOK!"— is that what it really means in
your language? You say, "Yes!" (This reasoning equally applies to every language
under the sun). In other words, Jesus was telling his disciples, when he said:
"Behold my HANDS and my FEET", that the body he wanted them to see, feel and
touch was not a SPIRITUAL body, nor a METAMORPHOSED body, nor a RESURRECTED
body. Because a resurrected "body" becomes spiritualised!
WHO SAYS SO?
The argumentative Crusader asks: "Who says that resurrected persons will be
spiritualised?" I say, "Jesus!" He asks: "Where?" I say: "In the Gospel of Luke;
go back four chapters from where Jesus said: "A spirit has no flesh and bones',
that is, to Luke 20:27-36, and you will see. . .". The Jews were coming to Jesus
again and again with posers and riddles, like:-
(a) "Master, must we pay tribute to Ceaser or not?"
(HOLY BIBLE) Matthew 22:77
(b) "Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act,"
(HOLY BIBLE) John 8:4
(c) "Master, what commandment is the first of all?"
(HOLY BIBLE) Mark 12:28
Now they come to him concerning a Jewess who had seven husbands, according to
a Jewish practice — if one man dies leaving no offspring behind, then the 2nd
brother of the deceased husband takes her to wife, to give her his seed. But
when he fails and dies, the 3rd takes her on; and so on and so on. In the case
before Jesus, seven brothers had this one woman, one after another. All the
seven brothers died, and in time, the woman also died. There was no problem
while each was trying to fulfil his duty — it was ONE by ONE! But the question
of the Jews was that, at the RESURRECTION, which one was going to have this
woman, because they had all "HAD" her here! The picture the Jews are trying to
conjure up in Jesus' mind is that if the seven brothers are resurrected
simultaneously at the RESURRECTION, and the woman also, then there will be a war
in heaven among the seven brothers, all claiming the woman as his own wife,
because they had "all had her". In short, which fellow will
have this woman as his wife in heaven? In answer to that, Jesus says: "Neither
shall they die anymore" — meaning that the resurrected persons will be
immortalised: needing no food, no shelter, no clothing, no sex, no rest. "For
they are equal unto the angels," meaning that they will be ANGEL1SED, they will
be SPIRITUALISED, they will become SPIRITUAL CREATURES, they will be SPIRITS! As
regards himself, four chapters further on he says: "A spirit has no flesh and
bones, as you see me have" — I am NOT a spirit, I am NOT a ghost, I am NOT a
spook, I am NOT RESURRECTED! I am the same living Jesus — ALIVE! 1
"And when he had thus spoken, he showed them his hands and feet."
(HOLY BIBLE) Luke 24:40
1. Paul is more specific and succinct on this matter. He says in 1 Corinthians
15:35-46. "But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? And with what body
do they come?…so also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption;
it is raised in incorruption…It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual
body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. And so it is
written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a
quickening spirit. Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which
is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual".

THE DISCIPLES' FEAR SUBSIDES
The disciples were "overjoyed and wondered", what could have happened? They
had thought that he was dead and gone, but here with them stands their Master,
with flesh and bones — with 100% characteristics of a man ALIVE!
To assure them further, to calm their shaky nerves, he asks: "Have you here
any meat', i.e. anything to eat? "And they gave him a piece of broiled fish and
of a honeycomb, and he took it, and DID EAT before them."
(HOLY BIBLE) Luke 24:41-43
To prove what? That he is RESURRECTED? Why does he not then say so instead of
proving everything to the contrary? Presenting his physical body for
examination, eating and masticating "broiled fish and honeycomb". Is all this an
act, a pretence, a make-believe, another "leela" as the Hindus might say? "No!"
Said Schleliermacher a hundred-and-sixty-five years ago. Albert Schweizer in his
book, "In Quest of the Historical Jesus", page 64, quotes him:-
"IF CHRIST HAD ONLY EATEN TO SHOW THAT HE COULD EAT, WHILE HE REALLY HAD NO
NEED OF NOURISHMENT, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A PRETENCE — SOMETHING DOCETIC"
EASY SALVATION
What is wrong with our Christian brethren? Jesus says that a spirit has no
flesh and bones, they say that it has! Please ask your friends among them; Who
is lying? Jesus or you, the billion so-called followers of his? This is the
result of two thousand years of brain-washing or "programming" as the American
would say. Salvation is cheap in Christianity! The Christian does not have to
fast, and pray, and strait-Jacket his life as the Muslim is obligated to do. He
merely has to BELIEVE and salvation is his. For us, all our efforts, all our
good deeds are "like filthy rags", he says. You better re-programme him, or he
will programme you. He will never be satisfied with us, never mind how far
backward we bend to appease him. Allah says:

It’s either you change them, or they change you! If you want peace – Salaam –
ISLAM!


1. Later on you will see the story of multiple cruci-fictions on the
Philippines.


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