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#704 From: Curtis <timeguy4@...>
Date: Tue Jun 8, 2004 6:20 pm
Subject: Fraudulent Wells Fargo Emails! kronos10500bc
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Hi,
HEADS UP!

Below are two fraudulent emails sweeping the net. If you are a Wells Fargo user, be sure to read them.

Curtis

3/9/2004 - Please verify your Wells Fargo account

Dear Wells Fargo valued customer!

Please read this important message about security. We are working very hard to protect our customers against fraud. Your account has been randomly chosen for verification. This is requested to us to verify that you are the real owner of this account. All you need to do is to click on the link below. You will see a verification page. Please complete all fields that you will see and submit the form. You will be redirected to Wells Fargo home page after verification. Please note that if you don't verify your ownership of account in 24 hours we will block it to protect your money. Thank you. http://www.wellsfargo.com/verify/

3/17/04 - Wells Fargo Customer Alert!

You Have Mail!
Please check your secured inbox for more information.
Not Yet Enrolled? It's Free!
Start viewing all your Wells Fargo accounts online.
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NOTE: This message looks like the Wells Fargo sign-on page and prompts you to enter your Username/SSN and Password.

This is a fraudulent email. Wells Fargo will never request your personal information through unsolicited email messages.

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#703 From: "Lucid" <livinglucid@...>
Date: Fri May 28, 2004 12:40 pm
Subject: Re: [Time-Travelers] Birthday Reminder livinglucid
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Happy Birthday to my Brother...even though he is not part of this list any more :)

----- Original Message -----

From: Yahoo! Reminder

To: time-travelers@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 11:56 PM

Subject: [Time-Travelers] Birthday Reminder

Birthday Reminder from the Calendar of time-travelers

Happy Birthday, Shade!

Saturday May 29, 2004
All Day
This event repeats every year.

Yahoo! Greetings
Send a Yahoo! Birthday Greeting. Find Birthday Gifts
Browse Yahoo! Shopping's Gift Guide

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#702 From: Yahoo! Reminder <reminders@...>
Date: Thu May 27, 2004 5:56 am
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Birthday Reminder from the Calendar of time-travelers

Happy Birthday, Shade!

Saturday May 29, 2004
All Day
This event repeats every year.

Yahoo! Greetings
Send a Yahoo! Birthday Greeting.

Find Birthday Gifts
Browse Yahoo! Shopping's Gift Guide

Copyright © 2004 Yahoo! Inc. All Rights Reserved.
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#701 From: Karen Sullivan <hypnotyzing1@...>
Date: Thu May 27, 2004 2:41 am
Subject: Re: [Time-Travelers] Update hypnotyzing1
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Hello :)

Face lift..well done.

Keep up the good work..

Karen

Michael Clarke <kronosinatlantis@...> wrote:

Hi,

I have been busy giving the Time Travelers website a face lift.

Check it out and let me know what you think?

http://time-travelers.org

I have been writing, but I haven't converted it to HTML so it can

be viewed on the net.

I hope this finds everyone happy and healthy.

Curtis

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#700 From: "rentahand" <getahand@...>
Date: Wed May 26, 2004 3:08 pm
Subject: Re: [Time-Travelers] Writer seeks people to interview for book sicklecell3
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Hello Robert I am part of the TT group I am very interested in your project My philosophy exactly, and I would love to read about your findings It sounds exciting. Ms Carol

----- Original Message -----

From: reachme834

To: time-travelers@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 7:26 PM

Subject: [Time-Travelers] Writer seeks people to interview for book

To members of the community: Please allow me to introduce myself. I am a former journalist (Life magazine, U.S. News & World Report, many others) who is writing a book about how souls design their lives prior to incarnation. I believe that many of the major challenges we face in life were chosen by our souls prior to birth, presumably for the growth and learning that would result from the experience. I am interested in speaking with people who know (or at least have some insightful thoughts about) why their soul chose to face the life challenges they have faced. This project is a wonderful opportunity for people to share stories that may inspire and help others who face similar challenges. If you might like to be interviewed, or for more information, please contact me DIRECTLY at reachme834@..., as I do not receive messages from this group. I expect to be working on this project well into 2005, so please feel free to contact me even in the "distant" future. Thank you. Robert

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#699 From: "Curtis Jackson" <kronosinatlantis@...>
Date: Tue May 25, 2004 11:56 pm
Subject: Re: Update kronosinatla...
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Thanks Lucid,

I am rewriting the content where it needs it.  Like taking out all of
the !!!
I am working on getting the site ready to promote.  The site is free
to peruse, and I will put up a little book store where people can by
my books and CD's.  I have lined up "PayPal".

I found a good book binder that will do small amounts.  The cost per
book is higher, but I believe quality is important.
I will offer everything from booklets that are stapled.  I will do
these myself provided the demand is not too heavy.
I plan on offering several quality books of differing quality, and
price.  In the high end, I am thinking about a three volume set.  It
will be a work in progress. I will let you know how it is going.
How are you?  Haven't heard from you in a while.

I will talk to you later,
Curtis

--- In time-travelers@yahoogroups.com, "Lucid" <livinglucid@e...> wrote:
> Nice front page, Curtis :)
>
> Are there more changes further in?
>
> Lucid
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Michael Clarke
>   To: time-travelers@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 7:20 AM
>   Subject: [Time-Travelers] Update
>
>
>   Hi,
>
>   I have been busy giving the Time Travelers website a face lift.
>   Check it out and let me know what you think?
>   http://time-travelers.org
>
>   I have been writing, but I haven't converted it to HTML so it can
>    be viewed on the net.
>   I hope this finds everyone happy and healthy.
>
>   Curtis
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#698 From: "reachme834" <reachme834@...>
Date: Thu Feb 5, 2004 11:26 pm
Subject: Writer seeks people to interview for book reachme834
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To members of the community:

Please allow me to introduce myself.

I am a former journalist (Life magazine, U.S. News & World Report,
many others) who is writing a book about how souls design their lives
prior to incarnation.

I believe that many of the major challenges we face in life were
chosen by our souls prior to birth, presumably for the growth and
learning that would result from the experience.  I am interested in
speaking with people who know (or at least have some insightful
thoughts about) why their soul chose to face the life challenges they
have faced.

This project is a wonderful opportunity for people to share stories
that may inspire and help others who face similar challenges.

If you might like to be interviewed, or for more information, please
contact me DIRECTLY at reachme834@..., as I do not receive
messages from this group.

I expect to be working on this project well into 2005, so please feel
free to contact me even in the "distant" future.

Thank you.

Robert

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#697 From: "courageoussouls" <courageoussouls@...>
Date: Tue May 25, 2004 11:28 pm
Subject: Author seeks people to interview for book courageoussouls
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Hello.  I am an author writing a book about why souls choose prior to
incarnation to experience certain challenges in their lives.  I'm
interested in interviewing people who know why their soul selected
the specific challenges they have faced.  This book grew out of my
own personal spiritual awakening and a desire to write something
spiritually meaningful.

This project is an opportunity for people to share stories that may
inspire others who face similar challenges.  The book is intended to
help people see purpose in suffering that may appear to be arbitrary
and meaningless.

If you might like to be interviewed, or for more information, please
CONTACT ME DIRECTLY at courageoussouls@....

In your email, please introduce yourself (first name, age, gender,
location, profession, anything else you care to share), and please
address the following questions:
What are the major challenges you face or have faced in life?
Why did you choose prior to incarnation to experience these
challenges?
How do you know this?
Have you had any spiritual or metaphysical experiences?  If so,
please describe.
Are you able to speak directly with Spirit (discarnate entities)?  If
so, please describe.

I fully understand and respect the fact that you may wish to know
something about me before you address such personal questions.  I am
more than willing to talk about myself and my background with anyone
who contacts me.

It is my intention to conduct this research with the utmost honor and
integrity.  Discretion and confidentiality are very important to me.
Please note that I do not need to use real names in the book.  You
will decide whether or not your real name will be used.

If you know anyone who may have this type of knowledge and who might
like to participate, please refer them to this message or to my web
page at www.courageoussouls.com

I expect to be working on this project well into 2005, so please feel
free to contact me even in the "distant" future.

Thank you.

Robert

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#696 From: "Lucid" <livinglucid@...>
Date: Tue May 25, 2004 9:41 pm
Subject: Re: [Time-Travelers] Update livinglucid
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Nice front page, Curtis :)

Are there more changes further in?

Lucid

----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Clarke

To: time-travelers@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 7:20 AM

Subject: [Time-Travelers] Update

Hi,

I have been busy giving the Time Travelers website a face lift.

Check it out and let me know what you think?

http://time-travelers.org

I have been writing, but I haven't converted it to HTML so it can

be viewed on the net.

I hope this finds everyone happy and healthy.

Curtis

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#695 From: Michael Clarke <kronosinatlantis@...>
Date: Tue May 25, 2004 1:20 pm
Subject: Update kronosinatla...
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Hi,

I have been busy giving the Time Travelers website a face lift.

Check it out and let me know what you think?

http://time-travelers.org

I have been writing, but I haven't converted it to HTML so it can

be viewed on the net.

I hope this finds everyone happy and healthy.

Curtis

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#694 From: "Matthew" <brin8020@...>
Date: Tue May 18, 2004 4:34 am
Subject: Re: Birthday Reminder brin8020
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Yes, one thing I add is how you say time, or rather, Time is All, or,
that I say it is brain activation between mathematical dimensions and
experience, W and S, phase locked Alternating Current (Intensities).
A Principle or Moral can be more accurately put as simply Truth, or
the use of Mind over Matter, I'd say.  One more thing, Curtis, or
anybody,
HOW are all things Possible?  :)  Black:13, White:14, Red:3, Green:4,
Yellow:5, Purple:6-7??

Matthew
--- In time-travelers@yahoogroups.com, Curtis <timeguy4@n...> wrote:
> For those of you who are new,
>
> Janice, from Singapore, and Derren, from England, have been with Time
> Travelers for abour five or six years.  The "Changing Channels" they
are
> referring to is mentioned at the following URL'
> http://time-travelers.org/new/excerpt45.htm
>
> Curtis
>
> dogwagtail3@y... wrote:
>
> >Yes, I agree, changing channels also taught me that I
> >can choose the path that make me happy. The rest would
> >take care by itself.
> >
> >Warm REgards,
> >Janis : )
> >
> >--- Derren <derren43@y...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Xlnt.  Yup, same with me 2...more or less in the
> >>same direction.
> >>
> >>As I watch the various postings, I reflect....I
> >>think the one TT
> >>principle/technique/idea that has stuck with me
> >>above all else has to
> >>be 'changing channels'.  It's helped me take
> >>responsibility for my
> >>reality...
> >>
> >>bless...
> >>
> >>d
> >>
> >>--- In time-travelers@yahoogroups.com, Janis Fung
> >><dogwagtail3@y...>
> >>wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Hi Derren,
> >>>
> >>>All is well with me. More or less still in the
> >>>
> >>>
> >>same
> >>
> >>
> >>>direction as before. : )
> >>>
> >>>Hope all is well with you too.
> >>>
> >>>Warm Regards,
> >>>Janis
> >>>
> >>>--- Derren <derren43@y...> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>heya janis
> >>>>
> >>>>hope all's well
> >>>>
> >>>>blessings
> >>>>
> >>>>d
> >>>>--- In time-travelers@yahoogroups.com, Janis
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>Fung
> >>
> >>
> >>>><dogwagtail3@y...>
> >>>>wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Oops, sorry... my brother, James used my email
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>and
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>changed the send out name. I forgot to change
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>it
> >>
> >>
> >>>>back.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>hee...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>thanks for the virus alert, Curtis...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>--- Lucid <livinglucid@e...> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Happy Birthday Derren! :)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Lucid
> >>>>>>  ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>>  From: Yahoo! Reminder
> >>>>>>  To: time-travelers@yahoogroups.com
> >>>>>>  Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 11:55 PM
> >>>>>>  Subject: [Time-Travelers] Birthday
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>Reminder
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>       My Groups | time-travelers Main Page
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>                   Birthday Reminder from
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>the
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>Calendar of time-travelers
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>                          Happy Birthday,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>Derren!
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>                          Saturday May 1,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>2004
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>                          All Day
> >>>>>>                          This event repeats
> >>>>>>
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#693 From: Curtis <timeguy4@...>
Date: Thu May 13, 2004 4:12 pm
Subject: Re: [Time-Travelers] Re: Birthday Reminder kronos10500bc
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For those of you who are new,

Janice, from Singapore, and Derren, from England, have been with Time Travelers for abour five or six years. The "Changing Channels" they are referring to is mentioned at the following URL'
http://time-travelers.org/new/excerpt45.htm

Curtis

dogwagtail3@... wrote:

Yes, I agree, changing channels also taught me that I
can choose the path that make me happy. The rest would
take care by itself.
Warm REgards,
Janis : )
--- Derren <derren43@...> wrote:

Xlnt. Yup, same with me 2...more or less in the
same direction.
As I watch the various postings, I reflect....I
think the one TT principle/technique/idea that has stuck with me
above all else has to be 'changing channels'. It's helped me take
responsibility for my reality...
bless...
d
--- In time-travelers@yahoogroups.com, Janis Fung
<dogwagtail3@y...> wrote:

Hi Derren,
All is well with me. More or less still in the

same

direction as before. : )
Hope all is well with you too.
Warm Regards,
Janis --- Derren <derren43@y...> wrote:

heya janis
hope all's well
blessings
d
--- In time-travelers@yahoogroups.com, Janis

Fung

<dogwagtail3@y...> wrote:

Oops, sorry... my brother, James used my email

and

changed the send out name. I forgot to change

it

back.

hee...
thanks for the virus alert, Curtis... --- Lucid <livinglucid@e...> wrote:

Happy Birthday Derren! :)
Lucid
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Birthday Reminder from

the

Calendar of time-travelers Happy Birthday,

Derren!

 Saturday May 1,

 All Day This event repeats

every

year.

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#692 From: Janis Fung <dogwagtail3@...>
Date: Thu May 13, 2004 11:52 am
Subject: Re: [Time-Travelers] Re: Birthday Reminder dogwagtail3
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Yes, I agree, changing channels also taught me that I
can choose the path that make me happy. The rest would
take care by itself.

Warm REgards,
Janis : )

--- Derren <derren43@...> wrote:
> Xlnt.  Yup, same with me 2...more or less in the
> same direction.
>
> As I watch the various postings, I reflect....I
> think the one TT
> principle/technique/idea that has stuck with me
> above all else has to
> be 'changing channels'.  It's helped me take
> responsibility for my
> reality...
>
> bless...
>
> d
>
> --- In time-travelers@yahoogroups.com, Janis Fung
> <dogwagtail3@y...>
> wrote:
> > Hi Derren,
> >
> > All is well with me. More or less still in the
> same
> > direction as before. : )
> >
> > Hope all is well with you too.
> >
> > Warm Regards,
> > Janis
> >
> > --- Derren <derren43@y...> wrote:
> > > heya janis
> > >
> > > hope all's well
> > >
> > > blessings
> > >
> > > d
> > > --- In time-travelers@yahoogroups.com, Janis
> Fung
> > > <dogwagtail3@y...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Oops, sorry... my brother, James used my email
> and
> > > > changed the send out name. I forgot to change
> it
> > > back.
> > > > hee...
> > > >
> > > > thanks for the virus alert, Curtis...
> > > >
> > > > --- Lucid <livinglucid@e...> wrote:
> > > > > Happy Birthday Derren! :)
> > > > >
> > > > > Lucid
> > > > >   ----- Original Message -----
> > > > >   From: Yahoo! Reminder
> > > > >   To: time-travelers@yahoogroups.com
> > > > >   Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 11:55 PM
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> Reminder
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >        My Groups | time-travelers Main Page
>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >                    Birthday Reminder from
> the
> > > > > Calendar of time-travelers
> > > > >
> > > > >                           Happy Birthday,
> > > Derren!
> > > > >
> > > > >                           Saturday May 1,
> 2004
> > > > >                           All Day
> > > > >                           This event repeats
> > > every
> > > > > year.
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > >
> >
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#691 From: "Matthew" <brin8020@...>
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Monikah, what does it mean?  There are ordinary people around, that
turn into pawns of a regime of nonbeing that is found corrupt.  What
is my response to this, in the excerpts, for example, Curtis discusses
the static Christ Principle, there is, Principally, the White Light
state, the Void, as well as action from the White Light to the Cosmic
Principle.  I realize God is Love, and sins are forgiven, etc.  What
do you think my response to be, in Principle.

Respectfully,
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#690 From: Curtis <timeguy4@...>
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Thanks Lucid,

I want to make a minor correction that could be misunderstood---

Currently reads --"Not that they, the angelic hierarchy, are bad, and in fact are extremely conscientious in their intentions, but, however, they are on an entirely different path from us, namely the "evolvement" into "God consciousness", (which includes Christ consciousness), rather then "Christ consciousness" alone, as a final goal."

Should have read--"Not that they, the angelic hierarchy, are bad, and in fact are extremely conscientious in their intentions. However, they are on an entirely different path from us. Where our path is the "evolvement" into "God consciousness", (which includes Christ consciousness), theirs is the path to "Christ consciousness" alone, as a final goal."

livinglucid@... wrote:

Thank you Curtis, for your reply as well. I could only think of such things as a bad religion.

Lucid~~*

----- Original Message -----

From: Karen Sullivan

To: time-travelers@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 8:56 AM

Subject: Re: [Time-Travelers] Change the World

Hello Curtis!

Thanks for sharing your perspective.

Your understanding resonated with my own, only I did not know how to put it in to words as you have. Thanks! :)

Karen

Curtis <timeguy4@...> wrote:

Hello Karen,

Thanks for sharing the material, and thanks for asking for our opinions
It certainly gives one pause for thought in our comparatively simple daily routines.
As a time traveler, I must remind myself that these scenes are from plays many thousands of years in our past. If I have read the message correctly, then these beings are from a dimension slightly higher in vibration then our physical plane.
Several points bother me from a TT level of observation. Not to deride the accomplishments of these beings, but it is much easier to lower ones vibrations, through etheric technology, into a lower plane of existence, then it is to disassociate sufficiently from a corporal body to be able to access a higher level of vibration. I say this because of the misconception that advanced technology equivocates advanced consciousness..
It also seems that, these beings, no matter how noble, are still concerned with a two dimensional power structure. (i.e. good verses bad.) And also, they are not "on the firing line", as we are. To me, although immensely interesting from a technical point of view, (and it certainly wets ones curiosity), these are beings devoid of natural physical bodies. To further comment from a necessarily disinterested TT viewpoint, the successful commingling of divergent dimensional consciousness is at the basis of the TT philosophy. And lastly, it is we who would be burdened by their karma, rather than the other way around, as, according to the message, is abundantly apparent that they mean to "help" us. By this, I mean intervention of any kind would circumvent our very necessary lessons, no matter how terrible they may seem. Simply coming here to make ""nice nice", won't take the place of hard lessons learned.
If we are to believe in the current infestation of "ET's", then they seem more in line with our lack of spiritual awareness, and as such, are far less a problem then the arrival of thousands of ships filled to the brim with eager helpers.
At the heart of our problems in this time line, so very long ago, is the overriding necessity to spiritually grow up. Traveling from a higher level of vibration to a lower one, according to TT text, degrades the consciousness of the do-gooder to the level of the problem, and in fact, not being very familiar with the lower physical plane, except through detached observations, would most likely lead, all concerned, to gross confusion. They, would undoubtedly suffer the fate of all do-gooders, by the law that says, "No good deed will go unpunished."
And lastly, whenever I hear the term, "hierarchy", I am more than inclined to look for an angelic influence upon such groups, whether it be subtle or blatant Not that they, the angelic hierarchy, are bad, and in fact are extremely conscientious in their intentions, but, however, they are on an entirely different path from us, namely the "evolvement" into "God consciousness", (which includes Christ consciousness), rather then "Christ consciousness" alone, as a final goal..

For those who are new, you may not have discovered the "Time Travelers web site". If so, here is the free portal; where I have written extensively about balance and other things dealing with the optimization of human consciousness.
http://time-travelers.org/new/main2

Thanks Karen, I fervently believe in a diversity of perspective, less we get lost in our own myopia.

Curtis

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Hello Everyone! I received this link from a friend and wanted to share with you. If you feel inspired, please share with everyone you know. Some of you may have already seen this material. It's origin is unknown, and this collective of "et's" is turning to the masses. An interesting read. http://www.geocities.com/changetheworld_now/Changetheworld1.htm You may also be interested in this: http://www.exopolitics.org/Exo-Comment-7.htm Curtis, Kronos and Lucid... have you seen this? What are your thoughts? Karen

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#689 From: "Lucid" <livinglucid@...>
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Thank you Curtis, for your reply as well. I could only think of such things as a bad religion.

Lucid~~*

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Subject: Re: [Time-Travelers] Change the World

Hello Curtis!

Thanks for sharing your perspective.

Your understanding resonated with my own, only I did not know how to put it in to words as you have. Thanks! :)

Karen

Curtis <timeguy4@...> wrote:

Hello Karen,

Thanks for sharing the material, and thanks for asking for our opinions
It certainly gives one pause for thought in our comparatively simple daily routines.
As a time traveler, I must remind myself that these scenes are from plays many thousands of years in our past. If I have read the message correctly, then these beings are from a dimension slightly higher in vibration then our physical plane.
Several points bother me from a TT level of observation. Not to deride the accomplishments of these beings, but it is much easier to lower ones vibrations, through etheric technology, into a lower plane of existence, then it is to disassociate sufficiently from a corporal body to be able to access a higher level of vibration. I say this because of the misconception that advanced technology equivocates advanced consciousness..
It also seems that, these beings, no matter how noble, are still concerned with a two dimensional power structure. (i.e. good verses bad.) And also, they are not "on the firing line", as we are. To me, although immensely interesting from a technical point of view, (and it certainly wets ones curiosity), these are beings devoid of natural physical bodies. To further comment from a necessarily disinterested TT viewpoint, the successful commingling of divergent dimensional consciousness is at the basis of the TT philosophy. And lastly, it is we who would be burdened by their karma, rather than the other way around, as, according to the message, is abundantly apparent that they mean to "help" us. By this, I mean intervention of any kind would circumvent our very necessary lessons, no matter how terrible they may seem. Simply coming here to make ""nice nice", won't take the place of hard lessons learned.
If we are to believe in the current infestation of "ET's", then they seem more in line with our lack of spiritual awareness, and as such, are far less a problem then the arrival of thousands of ships filled to the brim with eager helpers.
At the heart of our problems in this time line, so very long ago, is the overriding necessity to spiritually grow up. Traveling from a higher level of vibration to a lower one, according to TT text, degrades the consciousness of the do-gooder to the level of the problem, and in fact, not being very familiar with the lower physical plane, except through detached observations, would most likely lead, all concerned, to gross confusion. They, would undoubtedly suffer the fate of all do-gooders, by the law that says, "No good deed will go unpunished."
And lastly, whenever I hear the term, "hierarchy", I am more than inclined to look for an angelic influence upon such groups, whether it be subtle or blatant Not that they, the angelic hierarchy, are bad, and in fact are extremely conscientious in their intentions, but, however, they are on an entirely different path from us, namely the "evolvement" into "God consciousness", (which includes Christ consciousness), rather then "Christ consciousness" alone, as a final goal..

For those who are new, you may not have discovered the "Time Travelers web site". If so, here is the free portal; where I have written extensively about balance and other things dealing with the optimization of human consciousness.
http://time-travelers.org/new/main2

Thanks Karen, I fervently believe in a diversity of perspective, less we get lost in our own myopia.

Curtis

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Hello Everyone! I received this link from a friend and wanted to share with you. If you feel inspired, please share with everyone you know. Some of you may have already seen this material. It's origin is unknown, and this collective of "et's" is turning to the masses. An interesting read. http://www.geocities.com/changetheworld_now/Changetheworld1.htm You may also be interested in this: http://www.exopolitics.org/Exo-Comment-7.htm Curtis, Kronos and Lucid... have you seen this? What are your thoughts? Karen

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#688 From: "Derren" <derren43@...>
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Xlnt.  Yup, same with me 2...more or less in the same direction.

As I watch the various postings, I reflect....I think the one TT
principle/technique/idea that has stuck with me above all else has to
be 'changing channels'.  It's helped me take responsibility for my
reality...

bless...

d

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#687 From: Janis Fung <dogwagtail3@...>
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Hi Derren,

All is well with me. More or less still in the same
direction as before. : )

Hope all is well with you too.

Warm Regards,
Janis

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#686 From: nebspook7@...
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Please help!
I have written four books on the subject of time-travel and have been interviewed by the BBC and Lou Gentile and Jeff Rense and Mike Jarmus(shortwave). I am always collecting information on ANYTHING new or unusual about time-travel. I was willing to pay the $14.95 to get your course of study, but was led instead to this "group"-I could not get the pay methods to work. I would prefer to send the $14.95 by check if that is all right! How could I arrange this?

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#685 From: Karen Sullivan <hypnotyzing1@...>
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Hello Curtis!

Thanks for sharing your perspective.

Your understanding resonated with my own, only I did not know how to put it in to words as you have. Thanks! :)

Karen

Curtis <timeguy4@...> wrote:

Hello Karen,

Thanks for sharing the material, and thanks for asking for our opinions
It certainly gives one pause for thought in our comparatively simple daily routines.
As a time traveler, I must remind myself that these scenes are from plays many thousands of years in our past. If I have read the message correctly, then these beings are from a dimension slightly higher in vibration then our physical plane.
Several points bother me from a TT level of observation. Not to deride the accomplishments of these beings, but it is much easier to lower ones vibrations, through etheric technology, into a lower plane of existence, then it is to disassociate sufficiently from a corporal body to be able to access a higher level of vibration. I say this because of the misconception that advanced technology equivocates advanced consciousness..
It also seems that, these beings, no matter how noble, are still concerned with a two dimensional power structure. (i.e. good verses bad.) And also, they are not "on the firing line", as we are. To me, although immensely interesting from a technical point of view, (and it certainly wets ones curiosity), these are beings devoid of natural physical bodies. To further comment from a necessarily disinterested TT viewpoint, the successful commingling of divergent dimensional consciousness is at the basis of the TT philosophy. And lastly, it is we who would be burdened by their karma, rather than the other way around, as, according to the message, is abundantly apparent that they mean to "help" us. By this, I mean intervention of any kind would circumvent our very necessary lessons, no matter how terrible they may seem. Simply coming here to make ""nice nice", won't take the place of hard lessons learned.
If we are to believe in the current infestation of "ET's", then they seem more in line with our lack of spiritual awareness, and as such, are far less a problem then the arrival of thousands of ships filled to the brim with eager helpers.
At the heart of our problems in this time line, so very long ago, is the overriding necessity to spiritually grow up. Traveling from a higher level of vibration to a lower one, according to TT text, degrades the consciousness of the do-gooder to the level of the problem, and in fact, not being very familiar with the lower physical plane, except through detached observations, would most likely lead, all concerned, to gross confusion. They, would undoubtedly suffer the fate of all do-gooders, by the law that says, "No good deed will go unpunished."
And lastly, whenever I hear the term, "hierarchy", I am more than inclined to look for an angelic influence upon such groups, whether it be subtle or blatant Not that they, the angelic hierarchy, are bad, and in fact are extremely conscientious in their intentions, but, however, they are on an entirely different path from us, namely the "evolvement" into "God consciousness", (which includes Christ consciousness), rather then "Christ consciousness" alone, as a final goal..

For those who are new, you may not have discovered the "Time Travelers web site". If so, here is the free portal; where I have written extensively about balance and other things dealing with the optimization of human consciousness.
http://time-travelers.org/new/main2

Thanks Karen, I fervently believe in a diversity of perspective, less we get lost in our own myopia.

Curtis

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#684 From: "Greg Coates" <hospitality.guild@...>
Date: Fri May 7, 2004 4:15 pm
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Curtis:

Actually, those stanzas are part of a 14 part, 462 line poem echoing the stations of the cross, which was written well before "The Passion," from a non-conformist's point of view.

Greg

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Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 10:39 PM

Subject: Re: [Time-Travelers] Change the World

Greg,

You are a man of many talents. I especially like your poem.
Glad to see you participating again...

Curtis

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Curtis:

Although I am not ruling out the validity of this Frenchman's observations (since I have known people I trust who have seen some of the same things), I cannot trust his channeling precisely because of the reasons you gave along with some random feelings; such as, why would advanced beings be so interested in what we do with our resources? I find it disconcerting that when absorbed in a new tale of unverifiable spiritual intervention, I am barraged with modern liberal ideology.

Your point about not allowing us (as a species) to grow hits home.

As I wrote in a recent poem:

"A true saint allows the oppressed to feel their faith

Observing without stealing their adversity

Suspending their contrivance in the rule of the oppressor

And so it is with benevolent acts

The poor man loses his identity

While the guilty feast on poverty"

Your thoughts?

Greg

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To: time-travelers@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 2:54 PM

Subject: Re: [Time-Travelers] Change the World

Hello Karen,

Thanks for sharing the material, and thanks for asking for our opinions
It certainly gives one pause for thought in our comparatively simple daily routines.
As a time traveler, I must remind myself that these scenes are from plays many thousands of years in our past. If I have read the message correctly, then these beings are from a dimension slightly higher in vibration then our physical plane.
Several points bother me from a TT level of observation. Not to deride the accomplishments of these beings, but it is much easier to lower ones vibrations, through etheric technology, into a lower plane of existence, then it is to disassociate sufficiently from a corporal body to be able to access a higher level of vibration. I say this because of the misconception that advanced technology equivocates advanced consciousness..
It also seems that, these beings, no matter how noble, are still concerned with a two dimensional power structure. (i.e. good verses bad.) And also, they are not "on the firing line", as we are. To me, although immensely interesting from a technical point of view, (and it certainly wets ones curiosity), these are beings devoid of natural physical bodies. To further comment from a necessarily disinterested TT viewpoint, the successful commingling of divergent dimensional consciousness is at the basis of the TT philosophy. And lastly, it is we who would be burdened by their karma, rather than the other way around, as, according to the message, is abundantly apparent that they mean to "help" us. By this, I mean intervention of any kind would circumvent our very necessary lessons, no matter how terrible they may seem. Simply coming here to make ""nice nice", won't take the place of hard lessons learned.
If we are to believe in the current infestation of "ET's", then they seem more in line with our lack of spiritual awareness, and as such, are far less a problem then the arrival of thousands of ships filled to the brim with eager helpers.
At the heart of our problems in this time line, so very long ago, is the overriding necessity to spiritually grow up. Traveling from a higher level of vibration to a lower one, according to TT text, degrades the consciousness of the do-gooder to the level of the problem, and in fact, not being very familiar with the lower physical plane, except through detached observations, would most likely lead, all concerned, to gross confusion. They, would undoubtedly suffer the fate of all do-gooders, by the law that says, "No good deed will go unpunished."
And lastly, whenever I hear the term, "hierarchy", I am more than inclined to look for an angelic influence upon such groups, whether it be subtle or blatant Not that they, the angelic hierarchy, are bad, and in fact are extremely conscientious in their intentions, but, however, they are on an entirely different path from us, namely the "evolvement" into "God consciousness", (which includes Christ consciousness), rather then "Christ consciousness" alone, as a final goal..

For those who are new, you may not have discovered the "Time Travelers web site". If so, here is the free portal; where I have written extensively about balance and other things dealing with the optimization of human consciousness.
http://time-travelers.org/new/main2

Thanks Karen, I fervently believe in a diversity of perspective, less we get lost in our own myopia.

Curtis

hypnotyzing1@... wrote:

Hello Everyone! I received this link from a friend and wanted to share with you. If you feel inspired, please share with everyone you know. Some of you may have already seen this material. It's origin is unknown, and this collective of "et's" is turning to the masses. An interesting read. http://www.geocities.com/changetheworld_now/Changetheworld1.htm You may also be interested in this: http://www.exopolitics.org/Exo-Comment-7.htm Curtis, Kronos and Lucid... have you seen this? What are your thoughts? Karen

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#683 From: Curtis <timeguy4@...>
Date: Fri May 7, 2004 5:39 am
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Greg,

You are a man of many talents. I especially like your poem.
Glad to see you participating again...

Curtis

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Curtis:

Although I am not ruling out the validity of this Frenchman's observations (since I have known people I trust who have seen some of the same things), I cannot trust his channeling precisely because of the reasons you gave along with some random feelings; such as, why would advanced beings be so interested in what we do with our resources? I find it disconcerting that when absorbed in a new tale of unverifiable spiritual intervention, I am barraged with modern liberal ideology.

Your point about not allowing us (as a species) to grow hits home.

As I wrote in a recent poem:

"A true saint allows the oppressed to feel their faith

Observing without stealing their adversity

Suspending their contrivance in the rule of the oppressor

And so it is with benevolent acts

The poor man loses his identity

While the guilty feast on poverty"

Your thoughts?

Greg

----- Original Message -----

From: Curtis

To: time-travelers@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 2:54 PM

Subject: Re: [Time-Travelers] Change the World

Hello Karen,

Thanks for sharing the material, and thanks for asking for our opinions
It certainly gives one pause for thought in our comparatively simple daily routines.
As a time traveler, I must remind myself that these scenes are from plays many thousands of years in our past. If I have read the message correctly, then these beings are from a dimension slightly higher in vibration then our physical plane.
Several points bother me from a TT level of observation. Not to deride the accomplishments of these beings, but it is much easier to lower ones vibrations, through etheric technology, into a lower plane of existence, then it is to disassociate sufficiently from a corporal body to be able to access a higher level of vibration. I say this because of the misconception that advanced technology equivocates advanced consciousness..
It also seems that, these beings, no matter how noble, are still concerned with a two dimensional power structure. (i.e. good verses bad.) And also, they are not "on the firing line", as we are. To me, although immensely interesting from a technical point of view, (and it certainly wets ones curiosity), these are beings devoid of natural physical bodies. To further comment from a necessarily disinterested TT viewpoint, the successful commingling of divergent dimensional consciousness is at the basis of the TT philosophy. And lastly, it is we who would be burdened by their karma, rather than the other way around, as, according to the message, is abundantly apparent that they mean to "help" us. By this, I mean intervention of any kind would circumvent our very necessary lessons, no matter how terrible they may seem. Simply coming here to make ""nice nice", won't take the place of hard lessons learned.
If we are to believe in the current infestation of "ET's", then they seem more in line with our lack of spiritual awareness, and as such, are far less a problem then the arrival of thousands of ships filled to the brim with eager helpers.
At the heart of our problems in this time line, so very long ago, is the overriding necessity to spiritually grow up. Traveling from a higher level of vibration to a lower one, according to TT text, degrades the consciousness of the do-gooder to the level of the problem, and in fact, not being very familiar with the lower physical plane, except through detached observations, would most likely lead, all concerned, to gross confusion. They, would undoubtedly suffer the fate of all do-gooders, by the law that says, "No good deed will go unpunished."
And lastly, whenever I hear the term, "hierarchy", I am more than inclined to look for an angelic influence upon such groups, whether it be subtle or blatant Not that they, the angelic hierarchy, are bad, and in fact are extremely conscientious in their intentions, but, however, they are on an entirely different path from us, namely the "evolvement" into "God consciousness", (which includes Christ consciousness), rather then "Christ consciousness" alone, as a final goal..

For those who are new, you may not have discovered the "Time Travelers web site". If so, here is the free portal; where I have written extensively about balance and other things dealing with the optimization of human consciousness.
http://time-travelers.org/new/main2

Thanks Karen, I fervently believe in a diversity of perspective, less we get lost in our own myopia.

Curtis

hypnotyzing1@... wrote:

Hello Everyone! I received this link from a friend and wanted to share with you. If you feel inspired, please share with everyone you know. Some of you may have already seen this material. It's origin is unknown, and this collective of "et's" is turning to the masses. An interesting read. http://www.geocities.com/changetheworld_now/Changetheworld1.htm You may also be interested in this: http://www.exopolitics.org/Exo-Comment-7.htm Curtis, Kronos and Lucid... have you seen this? What are your thoughts? Karen

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#682 From: "Greg Coates" <hospitality.guild@...>
Date: Thu May 6, 2004 10:48 pm
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Curtis:

Although I am not ruling out the validity of this Frenchman's observations (since I have known people I trust who have seen some of the same things), I cannot trust his channeling precisely because of the reasons you gave along with some random feelings; such as, why would advanced beings be so interested in what we do with our resources? I find it disconcerting that when absorbed in a new tale of unverifiable spiritual intervention, I am barraged with modern liberal ideology.

Your point about not allowing us (as a species) to grow hits home.

As I wrote in a recent poem:

"A true saint allows the oppressed to feel their faith

Observing without stealing their adversity

Suspending their contrivance in the rule of the oppressor

And so it is with benevolent acts

The poor man loses his identity

While the guilty feast on poverty"

Your thoughts?

Greg

----- Original Message -----

From: Curtis

To: time-travelers@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 2:54 PM

Subject: Re: [Time-Travelers] Change the World

Hello Karen,

Thanks for sharing the material, and thanks for asking for our opinions
It certainly gives one pause for thought in our comparatively simple daily routines.
As a time traveler, I must remind myself that these scenes are from plays many thousands of years in our past. If I have read the message correctly, then these beings are from a dimension slightly higher in vibration then our physical plane.
Several points bother me from a TT level of observation. Not to deride the accomplishments of these beings, but it is much easier to lower ones vibrations, through etheric technology, into a lower plane of existence, then it is to disassociate sufficiently from a corporal body to be able to access a higher level of vibration. I say this because of the misconception that advanced technology equivocates advanced consciousness..
It also seems that, these beings, no matter how noble, are still concerned with a two dimensional power structure. (i.e. good verses bad.) And also, they are not "on the firing line", as we are. To me, although immensely interesting from a technical point of view, (and it certainly wets ones curiosity), these are beings devoid of natural physical bodies. To further comment from a necessarily disinterested TT viewpoint, the successful commingling of divergent dimensional consciousness is at the basis of the TT philosophy. And lastly, it is we who would be burdened by their karma, rather than the other way around, as, according to the message, is abundantly apparent that they mean to "help" us. By this, I mean intervention of any kind would circumvent our very necessary lessons, no matter how terrible they may seem. Simply coming here to make ""nice nice", won't take the place of hard lessons learned.
If we are to believe in the current infestation of "ET's", then they seem more in line with our lack of spiritual awareness, and as such, are far less a problem then the arrival of thousands of ships filled to the brim with eager helpers.
At the heart of our problems in this time line, so very long ago, is the overriding necessity to spiritually grow up. Traveling from a higher level of vibration to a lower one, according to TT text, degrades the consciousness of the do-gooder to the level of the problem, and in fact, not being very familiar with the lower physical plane, except through detached observations, would most likely lead, all concerned, to gross confusion. They, would undoubtedly suffer the fate of all do-gooders, by the law that says, "No good deed will go unpunished."
And lastly, whenever I hear the term, "hierarchy", I am more than inclined to look for an angelic influence upon such groups, whether it be subtle or blatant Not that they, the angelic hierarchy, are bad, and in fact are extremely conscientious in their intentions, but, however, they are on an entirely different path from us, namely the "evolvement" into "God consciousness", (which includes Christ consciousness), rather then "Christ consciousness" alone, as a final goal..

For those who are new, you may not have discovered the "Time Travelers web site". If so, here is the free portal; where I have written extensively about balance and other things dealing with the optimization of human consciousness.
http://time-travelers.org/new/main2

Thanks Karen, I fervently believe in a diversity of perspective, less we get lost in our own myopia.

Curtis

hypnotyzing1@... wrote:

Hello Everyone! I received this link from a friend and wanted to share with you. If you feel inspired, please share with everyone you know. Some of you may have already seen this material. It's origin is unknown, and this collective of "et's" is turning to the masses. An interesting read. http://www.geocities.com/changetheworld_now/Changetheworld1.htm You may also be interested in this: http://www.exopolitics.org/Exo-Comment-7.htm Curtis, Kronos and Lucid... have you seen this? What are your thoughts? Karen

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#681 From: Curtis <timeguy4@...>
Date: Thu May 6, 2004 9:54 pm
Subject: Re: [Time-Travelers] Change the World kronos10500bc
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Hello Karen,

Thanks for sharing the material, and thanks for asking for our opinions
It certainly gives one pause for thought in our comparatively simple daily routines.
As a time traveler, I must remind myself that these scenes are from plays many thousands of years in our past. If I have read the message correctly, then these beings are from a dimension slightly higher in vibration then our physical plane.
Several points bother me from a TT level of observation. Not to deride the accomplishments of these beings, but it is much easier to lower ones vibrations, through etheric technology, into a lower plane of existence, then it is to disassociate sufficiently from a corporal body to be able to access a higher level of vibration. I say this because of the misconception that advanced technology equivocates advanced consciousness..
It also seems that, these beings, no matter how noble, are still concerned with a two dimensional power structure. (i.e. good verses bad.) And also, they are not "on the firing line", as we are. To me, although immensely interesting from a technical point of view, (and it certainly wets ones curiosity), these are beings devoid of natural physical bodies. To further comment from a necessarily disinterested TT viewpoint, the successful commingling of divergent dimensional consciousness is at the basis of the TT philosophy. And lastly, it is we who would be burdened by their karma, rather than the other way around, as, according to the message, is abundantly apparent that they mean to "help" us. By this, I mean intervention of any kind would circumvent our very necessary lessons, no matter how terrible they may seem. Simply coming here to make ""nice nice", won't take the place of hard lessons learned.
If we are to believe in the current infestation of "ET's", then they seem more in line with our lack of spiritual awareness, and as such, are far less a problem then the arrival of thousands of ships filled to the brim with eager helpers.
At the heart of our problems in this time line, so very long ago, is the overriding necessity to spiritually grow up. Traveling from a higher level of vibration to a lower one, according to TT text, degrades the consciousness of the do-gooder to the level of the problem, and in fact, not being very familiar with the lower physical plane, except through detached observations, would most likely lead, all concerned, to gross confusion. They, would undoubtedly suffer the fate of all do-gooders, by the law that says, "No good deed will go unpunished."
And lastly, whenever I hear the term, "hierarchy", I am more than inclined to look for an angelic influence upon such groups, whether it be subtle or blatant Not that they, the angelic hierarchy, are bad, and in fact are extremely conscientious in their intentions, but, however, they are on an entirely different path from us, namely the "evolvement" into "God consciousness", (which includes Christ consciousness), rather then "Christ consciousness" alone, as a final goal..

For those who are new, you may not have discovered the "Time Travelers web site". If so, here is the free portal; where I have written extensively about balance and other things dealing with the optimization of human consciousness.
http://time-travelers.org/new/main2

Thanks Karen, I fervently believe in a diversity of perspective, less we get lost in our own myopia.

Curtis

hypnotyzing1@... wrote:

Hello Everyone! I received this link from a friend and wanted to share with you. If you feel inspired, please share with everyone you know. Some of you may have already seen this material. It's origin is unknown, and this collective of "et's" is turning to the masses. An interesting read. http://www.geocities.com/changetheworld_now/Changetheworld1.htm You may also be interested in this: http://www.exopolitics.org/Exo-Comment-7.htm Curtis, Kronos and Lucid... have you seen this? What are your thoughts? Karen

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#680 From: "Greg Coates" <hospitality.guild@...>
Date: Wed May 5, 2004 10:26 pm
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I really wish superior beings would use proper grammar. I've seen a number of these web-sites and perhaps someone can explain how advanced civilizations haven't acquired spell check.

Greg

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From: Karen Sullivan, CHT

To: time-travelers@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 1:05 PM

Subject: [Time-Travelers] Change the World

Hello Everyone! I received this link from a friend and wanted to share with you. If you feel inspired, please share with everyone you know. Some of you may have already seen this material. It's origin is unknown, and this collective of "et's" is turning to the masses. An interesting read. http://www.geocities.com/changetheworld_now/Changetheworld1.htm You may also be interested in this: http://www.exopolitics.org/Exo-Comment-7.htm Curtis, Kronos and Lucid... have you seen this? What are your thoughts? Karen

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#679 From: "Karen Sullivan, CHT" <hypnotyzing1@...>
Date: Wed May 5, 2004 8:05 pm
Subject: Change the World hypnotyzing1
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Hello Everyone!

I received this link from a friend and wanted to share with you. If
you feel inspired, please share with everyone you know. Some of you
may have already seen this material. It's origin is unknown, and
this collective of "et's" is turning to the masses. An interesting
read.

http://www.geocities.com/changetheworld_now/Changetheworld1.htm

You may also be interested in this:
http://www.exopolitics.org/Exo-Comment-7.htm

Curtis, Kronos and Lucid... have you seen this? What are your
thoughts?

Karen

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Date: Wed May 5, 2004 11:27 am
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heya janis

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#677 From: "Lucid" <livinglucid@...>
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Yes :)

I sent it off to John 'cause he uses XP.

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Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 4:19 PM

Subject: [Time-Travelers] [Fwd: Worm Threat: Immediate Action Required]

This message is from my Internet Service provider, so I know that it is not a hoax.

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Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 04:00:37 -0400

From: SBC Internet Services <bulkmailer@...>

To: SBC Internet Services Members <members@...>

Worm Threat: Immediate Action Required

Dear SBC Internet Services Member:

It is extremely important that you read this message and take immediate action if you are using Windows NT, 2000 or XP.

A computer worm referred to as Gaobot, is currently infecting computers across the Internet. In response, we strongly urge you to take the following security measures:

1) Use a personal software or hardware firewall to protect your computers from network worms and intruders.

2) Download and install all available critical patches for your Windows operating system from the Microsoft web site: http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/

3) Use up-to-date anti-virus software to detect and remove Gaobot or other computer worms and viruses.

If you have more than one computer using these specific Windows operating systems, you should perform these actions on all such computers that connect to the Internet. Failure to take appropriate action could result in infection of your system and spread of this problem - and could lead to suspension of your account.

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Oops, sorry... my brother, James used my email and
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thanks for the virus alert, Curtis...

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Date:	Sat, 01 May 2004 04:00:37 -0400
From:	SBC Internet Services <bulkmailer@...>
To:	SBC Internet Services Members <members@...>

Worm/Virus Threat: Immediate Action Required

Worm Threat: Immediate Action Required

Dear SBC Internet Services Member:

It is extremely important that you read this message and take immediate action if you are using Windows NT, 2000 or XP.

A computer worm referred to as Gaobot, is currently infecting computers across the Internet. In response, we strongly urge you to take the following security measures:

1)	Use a personal software or hardware firewall to protect your computers from network worms and intruders.
2)	Download and install all available critical patches for your Windows operating system from the Microsoft web site: http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/
3)	Use up-to-date anti-virus software to detect and remove Gaobot or other computer worms and viruses.

If you have more than one computer using these specific Windows operating systems, you should perform these actions on all such computers that connect to the Internet. Failure to take appropriate action could result in infection of your system and spread of this problem - and could lead to suspension of your account.

SBC Yahoo! members can access additional information about SBC Yahoo! security features, including free anti-virus and personal firewall at help.sbcglobal.net. Further information is available at www.microsoft.com/security/protect.

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