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Re: Clarification on Types of Consciousness

Hi Ric,
I have placed the answers to your questions, within each question.
I gather that you have an electronics background, in that most people
wouldn't use the word "impedance" in such a splendid way. lol

I appreciate your questions and comments, and am glad the OEM has
benefited you in some way.

--- In time-travelers@yahoogroups.com, "insanecoder101"
<insanecoder101@...> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Kronos/Curtis,
> Wonderful website as the open-eye meditation alone has contributed to
> my efforts in attempting spritual growth. Was experiencing some
> stagnancy in progress with other types of meditations but have
> incorporated the open-eye method into my regiment. Regarding the
> excerpts..
> As usual, language and words always will have a potential for
> "impedance mismatch" with thought comprehension (maybe just mine) and
> thusly I have questions on the material I have digested. I would be
> grateful if you could provide clarification to this knowledge-hungry
> spirit as understanding to this material seems "material" to me
> ;)
>
>
>
> REGARDING CHRIST CONSCIOUSNESS:
> "Stated as simply as possible, Christ consciousness exhibits a
> condition of permanence when achieved as a result of the ACCUMULATION
> and CENTRALIZATION of consciousness, while achieving complete
> detachment from the separate constituent parts and levels of
> consciousness within ITSELF. In other words, Christ consciousness is
a completeness beyond the accumulated parts, but is always experienced
> from WITHIN the nature of this consciousness as internal beingness,
or Divine Self, called the Christ Principle."
>
> QUESTION:
> 1) Please elaborate on the "accumulated parts" as discussed above.

Ans. The accumulated parts are all available parts of consciousness,
since this is the definition of Christ Consciousness. Ultimately,
Christ Consciousness exists as white light, with the student, situated
on the inside, whereas, God consciousness, which is also white light,
is experienced from an external viewpoint. In Christ Consciousness,
there is knowledge of something greater existing on the outside, hence
the reference to the "Father."
As concerns God Consciousness, Christ Consciousness exists as an
internal quality, and in particular, as the heart center.

> Are the accumulated parts "Universal Love, overwhelming feelings of
> compassion and bliss, and a desperate need to share these feelings"?

Ans. Yes, these and other feelings are always present. Although these
same feeling are also present in Buddhic Consciousness, at the level
of a Buddha-of-Compassion, in Christ Consciousness, one is bound by
these feelings, and does not lead to any other state of consciousness.
Whereas, these feelings in a Buddha of Compassion, leads one back to
help those who are less fortunate. However, one is not able to
maintain Buddhic Consciousness, and is left at the same level as those
he/she wished to help. This is the basis for the "Law of the Good
Samaritan."

> 2) Also, is your assertion put simply that Christ consciousness is
> internal since it does not recognize that we are part and parcel of
> God himself or itself (as taught in Hindu Vedanta) and therefore lacks
> the completeness/wholeness of that realization?

Ans. In Christ Consciousness, of which there are several levels, there
is the complete understanding that each person is a thread that can be
followed back to the original Creator. There is also the understanding
that while in Christ Consciousness, one is perfect, but that all
others will, at some time, also experience this perfection, as an
inherent metamorphic result of spiritual evolution.
Furthermore, there is an inductance of consciousness, exerted upon
those within the range of a Christ Conscious person, that temporarily
brings those so influenced, into an immediate state of Christ
Consciousness. This can affect dramatic changes, such as instantaneous
healing.

I have observed that those with induced Christ Consciousness, will
eventually lose this state, upon leaving the presence of the original
Christ Conscious person. However, induction from a God Conscious
person, may have a lasting, if not permanent, affect. I believe
induced God Consciousness has the potential of cascading as permanent
induced consciousness, bringing about a cosmic event, within the
spiritual nature of human beings, talked about as happening within the
"blink of an eye."
>
>
>
> REGARDING BUDDIC CONSCIOUSNESS:
> "It is then that a temporary state of white light and Primordial
> Christ consciousness is subsequently experienced. This achievement is
> TEMPORARY because of the forward motion that has been set into effect
> in achieving it, a result of the nature and methods used to achieve
> Buddhic consciousness."
>
> QUESION:
> 1) I believe you stated the "temporary state" of white light was due
> to the flywheerl effect /forward motion and the Buddhas of Compassion.
> What of the nature and methods used to achieve Buddhic nirvana would
> cause the fall from the light? Are you only speaking of the Buddhas
> of Compassion concept or other concepts as well?
> The Buddhas of Compassion are an idea of Mahayana and Tibetan Buddhism
> which in my opinion had added questionable ideas onto Buddhism
> hundreds of years after the sage's death. I'm interested in hearing
> of any pitfalls with the Thervada Buddhism brainwash that I understand.

Ans. All methods, regardless of what name they go by, that attain the
"White Light," state, if brought about by traveling up through the
"Chakras," until the "Third Eye," is reach, as a result of negating
lower chakras, will result in the "flywheel effect." The White light
state, is a place of existence, where all other states of
consciousness are simultaneously experienced, i.e., all chakras,
within a human being, are simultaneously experienced, with none left
out. (Some practices believe that by concentration upon the "Third
Eye" center, one is able to attain Nirvana upon death of the physical
body. This is pure non-sense, considering that the temporary white
light event attained at the Third eye, is a natural result of having
passed through the Indigo state of Sagittarius, at the Mouth Center,
and has nothing to do with the location of the Third Eye.)

There is some confusion about whether the white light state is
experienced as the "Fifth," or the Seventh," dimension. When one is
experiencing the fifth dimension, it is from an internalized position,
and no white light can be seen or permanently experienced. I am
calling this the "Microsecond of Chaos. "However, from the accumulated
Sixth dimension, (the dimension of the void,) one can, by looking
within, see that what was the Fifth dimension, is now, (and always
was,) a sphere of white light, and since it is the next view-point
beyond the "Sixth" dimension, can be called the "Seventh" dimension.
It is from this sphere of white light, that our Inner Being
communicates with us, the "personality," and it is through this portal
that we are eventually metamorphosed into "Perfected Beings."
>
> Ans. This has most likely brought up more questions than it has
answered. If so, I look forward to more questions and comments from you.
Thanks,
Curtis
>
> Thanks and regards,
> Ric
>





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Hi Kronos/Curtis, Wonderful website as the open-eye meditation alone has contributed to my efforts in attempting spritual growth. Was experiencing some ...
insanecoder101
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Jul 9, 2007
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Hi Ric, I have placed the answers to your questions, within each question. I gather that you have an electronics background, in that most people wouldn't use...
curtis5432
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Jul 9, 2007
2:06 pm

Thanks for your insight Curtis, I do have more questions but I will hold off until I reread your exerpts for greater comprehension. Thanks again, Ric ..and you...
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