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This is my first post at this group and I am not nearly as conversant with Thomas Szasz's writings as are most (it appears) of the posters here. In fact I am...
Hello Kitty, I hope I'm not encroaching on our list owner's territory by welcoming you to this list. Being a great fan of Dr. Szasz, I'm a frequent poster, ...
Hi Kitty, Insanity The Idea and Its Consequences is as good a book as you could pick - maybe even better than The Myth of Mental Illness. In "Insanity",...
So, don't know how many of you have followed the Britney Spears case, but here's what I consider the most pertinent points: 1-Her family has had her committed...
Interesting points. On the TV, a psychiatrist in L.A. came on to explain things: She said that when a person is a danger to self/others, cant care for self,...
In a message dated 2/4/2008 4:11:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, acquista@... writes: In my view, it is certainly not a medical act, but a legal act of...
... poster, ... Hello Mira, Thank you for the welcome. Agreed that one can only speak for one's self, except when given specific permission by another to speak...
What would Dr. Szasz and other Libertarians say that we should do about individuals who drive drunk and, consequently, kill people? D Martin Kessler...
... Different libertarians would say different things. Clearly getting behind the wheel of a car while drunk and killing somebody as a result is negligent at...
... individuals who drive drunk and, >consequently, kill people? Sure sounds like manslaughter to me. Driving sober and hitting and killing someone also...
... I confess to exaggeration. Of course some people do manage to shake off the psychiatric status. However I contend that this is fairly rare, and that the...
People who drive drunk chose to do so and should be held responsible for their behavior. If it weren't for Mothers Against Drunk Driving (MADD) and their...
... Like so may bases of discussion, this one hinges on definitions. Is someone who does *not* support the idea of holding people responsible for their...
Hi Mira, I don't know about how drunkedness is handled in Holland. But in the US people who are alcoholic are "mentally ill" - ie they have a disability -...
do you mean that in Massachussetts the emplyer is forced (by law) to keep an employee who is "alcholic" because that emplyee is a "person with disability" and...
Mira wrote: "I didn't realize the US has become that socialist." It seems as though you've been living under a rock for a long time. Disabilities like...
For a little preview of coming attractions, where I live (Ontario, Canada), my workplace sees a constant shuffle of employees into various shifts, and the...
... escape it. Exaggeration on this and other serious subjects does not benefit the writer/speakers presentation of hir reasoning. If it is a fact that large...
... Here too. A doctor's note paves the way into or out of, according to one's wishes, jobs, housing, schools, jails, and more. In the Netherlands the most...
... snip ... Kitty, I was not addressing you specifically, just reminding everybody, because privacy is to me an important issue. ... When one signs himself...
Review of Coercion as Cure, by Alice Gee. http://metapsychology.mentalhelp.net/poc/view_doc.php?type=book&id=4078&cn=135 The author seems unaware of the extent...
Hi Hagai, Yes, I believe that is the case. Remember that alcoholism is now listed as a mental illness and a disability. Of course employees must still go...
Hi Hagai, There is a law with limited protection for alcoholics: Alcoholism is also a disability covered by these laws, but recreational use of alcohol is...
as a residing citizen of Massachussetts can you describe how the Massachussetts's employers regard such a law? how the general population regard such a...
Some thots on ADA in US: The American Disabilities Act seems to afford some protection for people diagnosed as alcholics. In particular, if a person goes for...
I really don't know. I would guess the more libertarian employers would probably have more of a problem with these laws, but the psychiatric lobby and...
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