Psychiatrists say that mentally ill people should be coerced because they may harm themselves or others. http://www.fff.org/freedom/0490c.asp "The demand for,...
... I don't speak for Dr. Szasz, but i.m.o. of course it is legitimate to coerce children. Parents make and enforce rules for their children like going to...
In a message dated 12/9/2007 7:26:25 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, mirah@... writes: Incompetent adults are rightfully protected and coerced like children, ...
... This can happen whether or not the person is (in)competent. As long as involuntary commitment is with us, nobody is safe. ... I trust neither, but again,...
... Many parents do make and enforce rules for their children. You haven't explained why forcing children to do things against their will is helping them nor...
It is a good point to raise, and it does not go away to say before 18 parents are in charge and can coerce but after 18 the adult has complete control. There...
... I gave the example of restraining a toddler who is about to run into the street. ... Your question was about competence, whereas your examples are not. ...
In a message dated 12/10/2007 5:01:16 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, mirah@... writes: All right. Maybe that is a valid definition of competence. What do the ...
... Let's rephrase. "The solution cannot be leaving him in the same state as 99% of the world's historical population." Maybe. The solution also cannot be...
... The state -- never! But other than that I agree with all you say, Randy. And you too, Ron. ... I have a quarrel with compulsory education laws too, but...
In a message dated 12/10/2007 7:14:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, mirah@... writes: I have a quarrel with compulsory education laws too, but that is not ...
... Just as you would restrain an adult who is about to run into the street. Doesn't explain the difference between the way you think adults should eb treated...
Hi! Dr. Leifer, I have one question if you do not mind. Dr. Pies makes an argument that diseases should be based on one's "functioning" and that organic...
Thurs. 07/12/13 12:51 post #13 previous post = http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/thomasszaszdiscussion/message/1642?threaded=1 ... So, abolish the practice...
Dear Readers, the day before yesterday we broadcasted on our radio program an telephon interview with Thomas Szasz. You can download the audio file here (with...
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In a message dated 12/17/2007 5:57:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, ... So, abolish the practice of coercion of "incompetents"So, abolish legal category of...
... Nothing wrong with radicalism, but perhaps we should define incompetence. How about: A state or condition of being incapable of surviving without constant ...
The BBC report <http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7207644.stm> that the father of UK singer Amy Winehouse "admitted he asked for his daughter to be...
The Amy Winehouse situation with her family and recovery treatment got me to thinking... I certainly support the Szasz position on not incarcerating people...
... Also when there *is* something medically wrong with them. In any case the term "medically wrong" does not represent a fact. It is a value judgment, even in...
Randy, The problem I see with what you are suggesting is that no "treatment" for bad behavior exists. What happens to people who voluntarily (as well as...
Mira, I am not sure how you got the ideas of replacing drugs they want with those they dont want, since I never advocated drugs for anyone. Szasz's quip is...
Randy, I don't see how your assertion that discussion of the law leaves "no room for human caring" follows from the position stated by Mira, Dr Szasz, or...
... No, sorry. I saw it somewhere and it seemed like something he would say, but I'm not sure about that. He is quoted so often that it is sometimes difficult...
... Have you ever been in one of those treatment programs? ... If you ascribe either of those to me, you are doing me a grave injustice. But tell me, how are...
Fri. 08/01/25 13:43 EST post #14 previous post = http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/thomasszaszdiscussion/message/1689 Thank you Rene. Could you also please...
