Re: [ThomasSzaszDiscussion] Re: The sensational verdict is published in English
etaonsh wrote:
> There must be a lot of patients and former patients
> (and prisoners, for that matter) disappointed to find no crock of
> gold for their irrefutable, unredressed tribulations, and more
> importantly, perhaps, no protection for future incumbents in the same
> situations as they arise (often unbelievable for those with no inside
> knowledge of the mental health system).
Perhaps in that sense this case could be beneficial, by demonstrating
that abuse is not incidental, but the very fabric of psychiatry. I was
able to understand some of the film, but my German isn't good enough to
judge whether the brief clip accomplished that.
Dear Friends, The sensational verdict of today is published in English here: http://www.iaapa.de/CASE_OF_ST_%20v_GERMANY.doc Rene Talbot Sectretary of IAAPA...
René, I haven't read all of it yet, but it looks to me so far that this verdict is of little use to us. The "applicant" as the document calls her, was...
... this ... I find it hard to see how any one-off legal case can 'sensationally' help us. It's rather like the Witchfinder General admitting to one mistake,...
... 'Certification' sounds outdated, supplanted by the funny-if-it's-not- you, otherwise callous term 'sectioning' (sounds quite odd to those who first hear it...
... Perhaps in that sense this case could be beneficial, by demonstrating that abuse is not incidental, but the very fabric of psychiatry. I was able to...
... same ... inside ... was ... to ... Oh - I thought that you had earlier agreed that the sensationalisation of a single incident had, by definition, made...
... I was referring to the verdict, which I could read because René sent me a link to an English translation. I could not judge whether the film clip made the...
... The German courts up to the supreme court were of the opinion that it was a lawful incarceration. Here is the first good message: on the question of Human...
René Talbot
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Jun 17, 2005 12:41 pm
... Yes, but there had not been a civil commitment. In other words, the incarceration had not been court ordered, even after she reached the age of majority....
... Of course the german courts were of the opinion, that there was a valid civil commitment, because she was incarcerated from her father, her guardian, and...
René Talbot
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Jun 19, 2005 10:48 am
... Sorry there is a mistake in the above sentence, correct is: The doctors opinion can prevail only if the person has no person who represent her legally. ...
René Talbot
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Jun 19, 2005 10:56 am
Rene Congratulations. Meanwhile, things here get worse. Ron Leifer [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
... Thanks! ... I know. We are working in IAAPA ( www.iaapa.ch ) on a strategy to encounter the offence started in the US. I will post our suggestion here on...
Can you say more about the mass screening you are talking about? Is there an article you can cite to provide more information? I think someone cited an...
The article you cite is dated July 23, 2004. The article states that the Illinois legislature enacted a law that would provide that "Mental health assessment...
I recommend to people in the US that you refuse to have children as long as the state massively interferes with parental authority. If birth rates drop...
Your recommendation sounds somewhat Orwellian to me. mirah@... wrote:I recommend to people in the US that you refuse to have children as long as the state...
i asked james nordlund from chicago to give me an eye witness account of the going on in illinois but he replied that he doesn't know what i'm talking about ...
Send James the web site on mental health evaluations for Illinois school children, the one I provided in my message two or three back. Ask him knows anything...