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Reviews of The Medicalization of Everyday Life and Coercion as Cure   Message List  
Reply | Forward Message #1824 of 1997 |
RE: [ThomasSzaszDiscussion] Leary, was formerly: Reviews of The Medicalization of Everyday Life and Coercion as Cure


Mira wrote: Parents of autistic children are perfectly justified to be outraged.

What objective test is there for autism? Who performs the diagnosis? Is it by
the same quacks that diagnose gamblers, bipolars, shoppers, ADHD etc?
If anything, Leary is wrong about "over diagnosis" - that assumes there are
diagnoses that are legitimate.
Martin



To: thomasszaszdiscussion@...: mirah@...: Mon, 1 Dec 2008
21:45:23 +0100Subject: [ThomasSzaszDiscussion] Leary, was formerly: Reviews of
The Medicalization of Everyday Life and Coercion as Cure



Martin Kessler wrote:> Look at the outrage Dennis Leary got for his book on the
subject of> Autism - and the outrage was from an out of context>
misrepresentation of what Leary had written. Szasz's books have been> similarly
misinterpretedBeing over here in Europe I had never heard of Leary (Denis, not
Dennis), but I looked him up through Google. He strikes me as offensive,
obnoxious, and vulgar. Parents of autistic children are perfectly justified to
be outraged. The "out of context" excuse is classic and cliché. I cannot imagine
any context in which such remarks would be admissible.According to Wikipedia:
"Leary ... had been talking about the trend of overdiagnosis of Autism..."* How
would Leary know which cases are legitimately diagnosed and which are "over"?
His remarks contribute nothing to the discussion nor can I detect anything
humorous in them. They were clearly intended to offend, and offend they did. Who
would buy a book like that anyway?The concept of "overdiagnosis" only
legitimizes diagnosis. The real controversy i.m.o. should be whether the subject
of abilities and disabilities belongs in the domain of
medicine.*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denis_Leary#Autism_remarks_controversyMir\
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Over on his blog 'A Canadian Lefty in Occupied Land,' Scott Neigh reviews two of Szasz's recent books: The Medicalization of Everyday Life ...
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Nov 26, 2008
11:10 pm

... He's on the right track, and he does a fair job of representing Szasz's views. He rather reminds me of the six-year-old who has discovered that Santa Claus...
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Nov 27, 2008
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Have not gotten to 'The Medicalization of Everyday Life' yet, but after reading the following in Szasz's latest, 'Psychiatry: The Science of Lies,' I don't...
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Nov 30, 2008
1:08 pm

... Your quotation marks are apt. Maybe we should send him one of Szasz's books. Mira...
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miradevries
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Nov 30, 2008
8:40 pm

Hi Mira, As Dr. Szasz has just said in the Lew Rockwell interview, Democrats and Republicans are the same when it comes to psychiatry's relation to the state...
Martin Kessler
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Dec 1, 2008
12:24 pm

... Being over here in Europe I had never heard of Leary (Denis, not Dennis), but I looked him up through Google. He strikes me as offensive, obnoxious, and...
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Dec 1, 2008
8:53 pm

Mira wrote: Parents of autistic children are perfectly justified to be outraged. What objective test is there for autism? Who performs the diagnosis? Is it by...
Martin Kessler
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Dec 2, 2008
11:03 am

... There are tests, such as of the reflexes. However, autism is mainly a personality trait. It doesn't require testing because it doesn't belong in medicine...
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Dec 3, 2008
11:56 am

Thanks Mira, I always like your approach to my questions. http://windowslive.com/Explore/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_speed_122008 [Non-text portions...
Martin Kessler
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Dec 4, 2008
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... Sorry, I meant to add that I see no similarily. Dr. Szasz's books are indeed often misrepresented, usually by people who haven't read them. Mira...
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Dec 1, 2008
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Mira wrote: I meant to add that I see no similarity (my correction). Really? The people who commented on Leary's book also didn't read it. Martin To:...
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Who watched Tom and Ellis's famous 1977 debate?   D ... From: mirah@... <mirah@...> Subject: Re: [ThomasSzaszDiscussion] Re: Reviews of The...
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... LOL! I'm safe over here in Holland. Unless, of course, Obama has me extradited to the US. And he won't, because my health insurance would not be valid...
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