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Reply | Forward Message #1767 of 1997 |
Re: [ThomasSzaszDiscussion] personality tests

Hi Mira,

Your comments on the person accused of schizophrenia were very
helpful, thanks. Regarding personality tests ...

On Aug 18, 2008, at 5:54 AM, mirah@... wrote:
> Regarding personality tests, I don't believe in them, but I see
> nothing
> wrong with people who do believe in them taking them.

My problem with personality tests might best be exemplified by looking
what one reviewer states in his review of "Please Understand Me" at
Amazon:

> I am an INTJ, and always wondered why everyone wasn't like me. Well,
> it turns out that I make up less than 1% of the population, and this
> book was a great help in helping people to understand me, but also
> in giving me the information I need to realize that everyone is
> different, and everyone needs to be understood in a different
> manner. What might make total sense to an INTJ, might really hurt
> someone else's feelings. And getting passionate about an illogical
> point in an arguement completely backfires when dealing with someone
> like me.
http://tinyurl.com/5qrw5f

The person is clearly using the test to validate himself. Also, all
other behavior is hereby validated (within some limit, I suppose) by
people's personality.

I'm okay, and you're okay.

The problem is, we shouldn't need a test to validate ourselves. We
should be able to achieve self-validation without the intermediary aid
of an expert, or a tool designed by an expert. Plus, if we feel
dissatisfied with ourselves or with another, maybe there's a good
reason for that!

Interestingly, the reviewer notes the example of someone making an
"illogical" point. If someone clearly makes some statements that don't
follow logically, it seems useful to point that out, but now he's not
going to do anymore if the person he's dealing with is a different
type than him. Let me pause and shudder for a minute here. (Of course,
old fashion manners might dictate when pointing out logical errors is
inappropriate anyway.)

So summing up at least two problems with personality tests:
1. We shouldn't rely on tests for expert validation of some sort.
2. We should deal with issues on an ethical level not a psychological
level. (That doesn't sound right, I guess I mean we should just avoid
psycho-babble.)

Best,
Matt Dioguardi









Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:36 pm

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Have you ever seen those personality tests people take for those dating services on the internet? What do you think of them?...
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I always assumed that they simply matched the people who ticked off the same answers and lived close to one another. A kid could write a simple perl script to...
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I don't think I have actually seen one of the personality tests for people who are trying to hook up for dates. I have seen questionnaires for that purpose....
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... Actually, in my country there is no legal definition of this word, and everybody is allowed to use it. So everybody can hang out a shingle and call himself...
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Maybe people could not agree on the definition of a psychologist is and thought it would be best for everyone to use his "private definition" of the word. Do...
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No I haven't, but what are the "personality" tests trying to accomplish in these dating services? Are they trying to match people who have similar preferences...
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Hi Matt, I'm glad to see a posting to this list. It would be nice if we could get the discussion going again. Regarding personality tests, I don't believe in...
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Hi Mira, Your comments on the person accused of schizophrenia were very helpful, thanks. Regarding personality tests ... ... My problem with personality tests...
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People have always used other people's wisdom and information to understand themselves and that is what this person did to make use of this test.  No man is...
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... Ooooo, I do love compliments, thanks Matt. Just for the record, my opinions carry no authority. I'm not even the list-owner. ... What do you mean by "we...
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