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RE: [ThomasSzaszDiscussion] Comprehensive listing for history


From: Martin
Yes Mirah, That's true. And if the "State" physically restrains and imprisons
the "suicidal" person they have succeeded in killing that person existentially.

Szasz, of course, is committed to the philosophy of personal responsibilty - if
a person drives while under the influence of alcohol (or what ever partaken
chemical that causes either loss of judgement or physical abilities), that
person is responsible for the consequences of their behavior. Unfortunately,
the governments would have never enacted the strict drunk driving laws had it
not been for Mothers Against Drunk Driving (MADD). The (illegal and some legal)
drug user is very much in the same position the homosexual was in prior to 1973
: ie homosexuality was both a disease and a crime. Until just a few years ago
it was still a crime.

Getting to current events, since I'm talking about drugs, the case of Barry
Bonds. It's truly unfortunate that the meddling US government had to get
involved in the use of steroids in the "national sport" baseball. So Bonds
allegedly lied about his steroid use under oath and now faces felony perjury
indictment. In my opinion, Bonds' use of steroids should not have been any
more interest to the government that if he had used an illegal bat. That would
have been the concern of the Baseball Commision - and his penalty under their
control. The worst that should happen to Mr. Bonds would be getting kicked out
of baseball not potentially 30 years in prison.


To: thomasszaszdiscussion@...: mirah@...: Fri, 16 Nov
2007 16:26:53 +0100Subject: Re: [ThomasSzaszDiscussion] Comprehensive listing
for history




D Waters wrote:> Would I let him or her die?You are not capable of preventing
suicide, so you cannot "let him or her die".M.






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I would like to start a detailed list of all recorded (audio and visual) interviews of Thomas Szasz for historical purposes. I have only heard a few of his...
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Nov 13, 2007
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... That is an excellent idea. Have you been in contact about this with Jeff Schaler who is his webmaster? Perhaps with your help he could incorporate videos...
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Nov 13, 2007
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... One interview ist at the end of the film "the verdict of the Foucualt Tribunal": http://www.foucault.de/ft_video_stream.htm René Talbot [Non-text portions...
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Pies, M.D., is a clinical professor of psychiatry at Tufts University School of Medicine. A remarkable quote recently appeared in the Boston Globe regarding a...
D Waters
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Nov 14, 2007
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... How can anything valid be determined about a person's behavior while he's drunk? ... They should have compared the physicians' diagnoses to those made by...
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Nov 16, 2007
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Thanks Rene - I was not aware of that video. Aside from the Cato event of a few years ago, I didn't think there was very much more available (not free of...
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Nov 14, 2007
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That is a great idea! Have you reviewed his debates via debatesdebates. Do you agree with him that drugs should be legalized? What would he say about all the...
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... In my opinion, they are very informative, and often (very) amusing too. ... Self-ownership requires such (though Szasz would, I believe, want to refrain...
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Nov 14, 2007
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Hello Darren, and if you are new, welcome. You specifically asked for a response, indicating that your questions are not merely rhetorical. You didn't say from...
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... You are not capable of preventing suicide, so you cannot "let him or her die". M....
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From: Martin Yes Mirah, That's true. And if the "State" physically restrains and imprisons the "suicidal" person they have succeeded in killing that person...
Martin Kessler
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Nov 19, 2007
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Re: Recorded interviews with Thomas Szasz There is a film from the National Film Board of Canada called "The Myths of Mental Illness"(1988), which I have seen...
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where are the links? can you post them again pleaseHagai Aviel/ChairpersonIsraeli Association Against Psychiatric Assaultwww.iaapa.org.ilfor 'International...
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In a message dated 11/19/2007 3:41:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, titaniummdk@... writes: Getting to current events, since I'm talking about drugs,...
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