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Reply | Forward Message #1670 of 1997 |
Re: [ThomasSzaszDiscussion] What do Szasz fans think of this? Pies was a student of Szasz, and he wrote an article in Szasz Under Fire depicting the problems of asserting that psychiatry is a pseudoscience and "subjective."

D Waters wrote:

> The patient appears disheveled, he walks with a slightly ataxic gait,
> he appears agitated and confused, there is an odor of alcohol on his
> breath, his thought processes are difficult to follow, he is unable
> to subtract 7s serially from 100, he whispers to himself and glances
> over his shoulder frequently, his speech is loud and pressured, he
> picks constantly at his clothing, and so on.

How can anything valid be determined about a person's behavior while
he's drunk?

> Suffice to say that for two of the three psychiatric diagnoses—mania
> and major depression—interrater reliability was better between the
> psychiatrists than it was among the radiologists in the first study.

They should have compared the physicians' diagnoses to those made by lay
people picked off the street. The lay people will be no match to the
radiologists, they can't even pronounce the words. But every
streetsweeper can diagnose schizophrenia and depression just as well as
a psychiatrist can. It takes no special expertise to see that someone is
crazy or depressed. But the psychiatrist goes one step further. He
claims to be able to remedy the situation. This is untrue. He can't.

Mira




Fri Nov 16, 2007 12:30 am

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I would like to start a detailed list of all recorded (audio and visual) interviews of Thomas Szasz for historical purposes. I have only heard a few of his...
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Nov 13, 2007
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... That is an excellent idea. Have you been in contact about this with Jeff Schaler who is his webmaster? Perhaps with your help he could incorporate videos...
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Nov 13, 2007
9:34 pm

... One interview ist at the end of the film "the verdict of the Foucualt Tribunal": http://www.foucault.de/ft_video_stream.htm René Talbot [Non-text portions...
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Nov 13, 2007
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Pies, M.D., is a clinical professor of psychiatry at Tufts University School of Medicine. A remarkable quote recently appeared in the Boston Globe regarding a...
D Waters
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Nov 14, 2007
9:29 pm

... How can anything valid be determined about a person's behavior while he's drunk? ... They should have compared the physicians' diagnoses to those made by...
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miradevries
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Nov 16, 2007
12:43 am

Thanks Rene - I was not aware of that video. Aside from the Cato event of a few years ago, I didn't think there was very much more available (not free of...
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Nov 14, 2007
10:15 pm

That is a great idea! Have you reviewed his debates via debatesdebates. Do you agree with him that drugs should be legalized? What would he say about all the...
D Waters
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... In my opinion, they are very informative, and often (very) amusing too. ... Self-ownership requires such (though Szasz would, I believe, want to refrain...
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Nov 14, 2007
10:16 pm

Hello Darren, and if you are new, welcome. You specifically asked for a response, indicating that your questions are not merely rhetorical. You didn't say from...
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Nov 16, 2007
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... You are not capable of preventing suicide, so you cannot "let him or her die". M....
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Nov 16, 2007
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From: Martin Yes Mirah, That's true. And if the "State" physically restrains and imprisons the "suicidal" person they have succeeded in killing that person...
Martin Kessler
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Nov 19, 2007
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Re: Recorded interviews with Thomas Szasz There is a film from the National Film Board of Canada called "The Myths of Mental Illness"(1988), which I have seen...
kenneth mccall
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Nov 14, 2007
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where are the links? can you post them again pleaseHagai Aviel/ChairpersonIsraeli Association Against Psychiatric Assaultwww.iaapa.org.ilfor 'International...
Hagai Aviel
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In a message dated 11/19/2007 3:41:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, titaniummdk@... writes: Getting to current events, since I'm talking about drugs,...
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