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Reply | Forward Message #1668 of 1997 |
Re: Darren

>Have you reviewed his debates via debatesdebates.

In my opinion, they are very informative, and often (very) amusing too.

>Do you agree with him that drugs should be legalized?

Self-ownership requires such (though Szasz would, I believe, want to
refrain from the use of the term legalization, in favor of
decriminalization).

>Are you against involuntary commitment? I am, but I am not sure how I
would handle a suicidal patient. Would I let him or her die? Would I
commit them? I am not sure. What are your views?

Forgive me, but your language reminds me a little of
psychiatrist-speak. Rejecting coercion over the allegedly suicidal
person (are they automatically a patient?) means only that force is
ruled out. To say you would "let" him or her die doesn't strike me as
your only alternative. The issue, for me, concerns the existence of
special mental health laws, which legalize what we would normally
think of as assault, battery, kidknapping, torture, etc. The title of
one of Szasz's book is Psychiatric Slavery, which revealingly looks at
psychiatry in the courtroom. What I might or might not do in a
hypothetical situation involving someone I know personally (who, for
example, informs me that he is suicidal) is quite another question, I
would say.

With regard to the Pies article, I thought the following passage was
important: "Suffice to say that for two of the three psychiatric
diagnoses—mania and major depression—interrater reliability was better
between the psychiatrists than it was among the radiologists in the
first study."
But if mental illness doesn't exist, what exactly are the
psychiatrists (reliably) measuring..?

ted.




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I would like to start a detailed list of all recorded (audio and visual) interviews of Thomas Szasz for historical purposes. I have only heard a few of his...
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Nov 13, 2007
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... That is an excellent idea. Have you been in contact about this with Jeff Schaler who is his webmaster? Perhaps with your help he could incorporate videos...
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Nov 13, 2007
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... One interview ist at the end of the film "the verdict of the Foucualt Tribunal": http://www.foucault.de/ft_video_stream.htm René Talbot [Non-text portions...
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Pies, M.D., is a clinical professor of psychiatry at Tufts University School of Medicine. A remarkable quote recently appeared in the Boston Globe regarding a...
D Waters
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Nov 14, 2007
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... How can anything valid be determined about a person's behavior while he's drunk? ... They should have compared the physicians' diagnoses to those made by...
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Nov 16, 2007
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Thanks Rene - I was not aware of that video. Aside from the Cato event of a few years ago, I didn't think there was very much more available (not free of...
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That is a great idea! Have you reviewed his debates via debatesdebates. Do you agree with him that drugs should be legalized? What would he say about all the...
D Waters
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... In my opinion, they are very informative, and often (very) amusing too. ... Self-ownership requires such (though Szasz would, I believe, want to refrain...
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Hello Darren, and if you are new, welcome. You specifically asked for a response, indicating that your questions are not merely rhetorical. You didn't say from...
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Nov 16, 2007
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... You are not capable of preventing suicide, so you cannot "let him or her die". M....
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From: Martin Yes Mirah, That's true. And if the "State" physically restrains and imprisons the "suicidal" person they have succeeded in killing that person...
Martin Kessler
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Re: Recorded interviews with Thomas Szasz There is a film from the National Film Board of Canada called "The Myths of Mental Illness"(1988), which I have seen...
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where are the links? can you post them again pleaseHagai Aviel/ChairpersonIsraeli Association Against Psychiatric Assaultwww.iaapa.org.ilfor 'International...
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In a message dated 11/19/2007 3:41:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, titaniummdk@... writes: Getting to current events, since I'm talking about drugs,...
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