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Reply | Forward Message #1550 of 1997 |
RE: [ThomasSzaszDiscussion] Involuntary commitment

it appears that the person who wrote this message assume that either all of
us are citizens of his/hers country or that the psychiatric incarceration
procedure is the same all over the globe.
what is truly horrifying in this message is the suspicion that psychiatric
incarceration in his/hers country are decided in a genetic-health court.



Hagai Aviel/Chairperson
Israeli Association Against Psychiatric Assault
www.iaapa.org.il
for 'International Association Against Psychiatric Assault' see: iaapa.ch





>From: "ozarkheretic" <ozarkheretic@...>
>Reply-To: thomasszaszdiscussion@yahoogroups.com
>To: thomasszaszdiscussion@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [ThomasSzaszDiscussion] Involuntary commitment
>Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 17:00:32 -0000
>
>If you have some time, type "involuntary commitment" into an internet
>search window and see what you find.
>
>Have you ever attended an involuntary commitment hearing? If you
>have the time, go watch one. An IC hearing is usually considered to
>be a public, open to the public, if not always open to the public.
>But you might find that it is difficult to find out when commitment
>hearings are scheduled. One reason is they are considered "emergency
>hearings". You might ask the court clerk to notify you when a
>hearing is scheduled, although most court clerks probably don't feel
>that notifying you about the hearing is part of their job description
>and don't want to notify you unless you have a special interest in
>the case. And if you have a special interest in the case, then the
>clerk would probably think the prosecuting attorney, i.e. the
>attorney advocating the commitment, should notify you or the defense
>counsel, who is supposed to represent the person whose commitment is
>sought, should notify you. Sometimes the clerks treat the commitment
>cases in a kind of "hush-hush" attitude.
>
>Probably in a lot of cases there is not actually a "hearing". It
>probably happens that in many cases a lot of "waivers" by the accused
>are entered into the record. There is no testimony and the person
>who is accused of being a mentally person who should be committed is
>probably never brought before the Court and "read his rights".
>
>There are probably many commitment hearings every month where you
>live. But they are not likely publicized. I think I will contact the
>newspapers and ask why they don't report those matters. If someone
>is accused of disturbing the peace, it is likely, but not certain,
>that a brief mention will be made in the paper somewhere. But I
>don't think the papers routinely mention commitment hearings. An
>insanity defense to a felony will probably get a mention.
>
>How many commitment hearings happen in your county seat every month?
>You might be surprised at the number. It might an average of five or
>maybe twenty-five, depending on the population of your county. Maybe
>if the newspapers would begin to cover those cases, the public would
>get interested in Szasz's ideas.
>

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Sat Feb 3, 2007 9:04 pm

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If you have some time, type "involuntary commitment" into an internet search window and see what you find. Have you ever attended an involuntary commitment...
ozarkheretic
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Feb 3, 2007
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it appears that the person who wrote this message assume that either all of us are citizens of his/hers country or that the psychiatric incarceration procedure...
Hagai Aviel
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Feb 3, 2007
9:04 pm

No, Hagai, I was aware that some group members live in other countries. And I realize that the commitment procedures probably vary even in the U.S. As for...
ozarkheretic
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Feb 4, 2007
8:28 pm

i referred to the "mental hygiene laws", and to the "mental health courts" in the United States set up under the supervision of the US Justice Department -...
Hagai Aviel
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Feb 5, 2007
6:00 am

... Hagai, can you supply some evidence for this? The laws I think you are referring to are part of the civil law system (as apposed to the criminal justice...
mirah@...
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Feb 5, 2007
9:48 am

as for the "mental health courts in the United States see attachemnts as for the arabs in psychiatry: it is true that those living outside the israeli...
Hagai Aviel
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Feb 5, 2007
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the attachments did not work so here is the texts: http://www.abqjournal.com/news/79403news07-15-00.htm Saturday, July 15, 2000 Officials Seek Jail Diversion ...
Hagai Aviel
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