I don't believe you ever answered my questions about intelligence.
Do you use the word intelligence? Of course, you use the word. And
your friends use the word. You said your friends say you are an
intelligent person. You apparently dismiss a conventional
definition of the term, i.e. intelligence is what IQ tests measure.
I believe you do not think IQ tests are valid instruments to measure
a person's IQ. So how do you decide if a person is intelligent,
since you describe some people as being intelligent? Do you find
that some people are more intelligent than others by your
definition? How do you decide if a person is intelligent and how
the person may compare to other people in being intelligent? Do you
try to quantify your observations?
If you would tell me why you want to deny the validity of IQ tests,
I would be very interested. Is it because IQ tests show that people
are unequal in the quality of intelligence? But I believe you will
tell us that even using your definition of intelligence, people are
unequal. Why then are you bothered by the fact that IQ tests reveal
that there is a great range of IQ among people?
Mira, I don't believe you ever answered my questions about intelligence. Do you use the word intelligence? Of course, you use the word. And your friends use...
... This was irony. ... Like most people, I sometimes use meaningless words or use them in a meaningless way. I might say that I think that somebody who...
Mira: OK, so you apparently believe the word "intelligence" is a "meaningless" word. If somebody describes another person as being intelligent, you do not...
There are surely many different types of intelligence,scientific, artistic,musical, emotional even spiritual.IQ tests are really very limited.Someone once...
... snip ... I.m.o. it is precisely this plasticity of meaning that makes a concept invalid. If we discussed things like birds, trees or the sun (which in ...
Sean, I certainly cannot agree with your statements. There are not many different types of intelligence, as you believe. There is only kind of intelligence,...
... I don't understand how an IQ test could ever work. The problems on the test would, by necessity, have to be the same on each test, otherwise the test would...
... I happen to have (or used to) a special talent for passing multiple choice tests. I sailed through high school in the US this way. I would make good grades...
Oh, yes, of course. Assuming your memory is correct, so what? ... do is ... multiple ... would ... book or ... barely ... which I ... would ... would ... me ...
Obviously you do not understand how IQ tests are constructed and evaluated. Find Arthur Jensen's books, "Straight Talk about Mental Tests" and "Bias in Mental...
... You are assuming you are right, and not bothering to explain what it is you assume you are right about. What I stated was extremely easy to follow. It's...
The standard IQ tests are fair. Do you think the tests are unfair? If so, why? As for the tests' being "different", I am not sure what you mean. People who...
[I sent this message out once this morning and it never appeared. So I will send it again. I apologize if it ends up getting posted twice!] ... I've premised...
... I've premised my argument with two premises: 1. The tests are fair. 2. The tests are different. Please consider the problem of the test maker. How is they...
Matt, You still have not answered the question about whether you consider the standard IQ tests to be "fair". You say "I've premised my argument with two...
... Until someone gives me a reason to think otherwise, I'll accept that the test's are fair. By *fair* I merely mean that the tests are basically the same....
Matt, you ask: How do we know what intelligence is? What is your definition of intelligence. In 1994 a group of professors, considered to be experts in...
Matt, you seem to be particularly concerned about how practising taking tests and coaching on how to take tests affect how people perform on IQ tests. Get a...
... By quoting this author you are suggesting that you accept him as an authority on the subject. That would mean that in your view other people cannot...
... testing, probably the foremost authority. But why would you conclude that because I believe he is an authority that would mean other people cannot...
... I only answer questions when I feel I have something new to add to the discussion. ... I think it's evident that you don't know me very well. And vice...
I am amazed that you say in your message 1219, "The disagreement arises when we're talking about vague concepts for which each of us has his own private...
... Certainly not. Most people accept the definition of intelligence put forth by the professors in the statement on "Mainstream Science on Intelligence". We...
From "The Second Sin" p. 106 by Thomas Szasz: Intelligence tests: hocus-pocus used by psychologists to prove that they are brilliant, and their clients stupid....
LOL!!! What a shame I don't have "The Second Sin" at home, I returned it to the library. Thanks for bringing us these great and humorous quotes. Mira...
I believe Szasz has written and said things that he has changed his mind about. Whether he has changed his mind about intelligence tests, I don't know. But I...
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