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Szasz's new book: "My Madness Saved Me"   Message List  
Reply | Forward Message #1206 of 1997 |
Re: [ThomasSzaszDiscussion] Re: Szasz's new book: "My Madness Saved Me"

ozarkheretic wrote:

> Let me ask you if you consider yourself to be an intelligent woman?

Intelligent, beautiful, charming, sweet, and rich. However, most people
don't agree with me...

> Do you think rocket science is a field
> that people should not study? Because the Nazis misused their
> knowledge of rocket science?

I do not object to either the study of rocket science nor of genetics,
as long as
A. It is not at my expense; and
B. It is not at the expense of my liberty (or anyone else's).

> Why do we need research on intelligence?

I have no objection to people who believe that intelligence is
researchable and should be researched doing so, as long as, again,
A. It is not at my expense; and
B. It is not at the expense of my liberty (or anyone else's).

Research into real products, like air-conditioners and computers, is
done privately. People pay for it willingly by buying the products.
Research into "intelligence" and "heredity" has to be funded by the
taxpayer because nobody wants it except the parties who use it to
manipulate and dominate others.

Mira





Mon Mar 27, 2006 5:18 pm

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I have bought the book, but I have not gotten around to reading it except I did read the appendix about "The Mad Genius Problem". In the discussion about...
ozarkheretic
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Mar 27, 2006
3:47 am

... I agree. The phenomenon is unique to organisms with human genes. ... If it is. And if it isn't? What is madness? Who is mad? Who decides what is madness...
Mira
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Mar 27, 2006
1:18 pm

Mira, there is much to respond to in your message. Do not have enough time at the moment, but will make a few comments. If you want to play the "dumb ass"...
ozarkheretic
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Mar 27, 2006
4:37 pm

... Intelligent, beautiful, charming, sweet, and rich. However, most people don't agree with me... ... I do not object to either the study of rocket science...
Mira
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Mar 27, 2006
5:18 pm

Why do you describge yourself as "intelligent"? What is your definition of intelligent? Has the study of genetics ever been at your expense? What does "at my...
ozarkheretic
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Mar 27, 2006
5:53 pm

You are so right in your observations Mira, genius is always a product of the Zeitgeist. How long will it take for history to recognize Szasz or Duesberg?...
Martin Kessler
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Mar 28, 2006
2:03 am

Martin, Do you know anyone who thinks the word "genius" has a precise meaning? Doesn't it simply mean that in the estimation of the speaker the person called...
ozarkheretic
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Mar 28, 2006
3:39 pm

Einstein was probably recognized as a genius because of what was going on in theoretical physics at the time his revelations were precient. Duesberg like...
Martin Kessler
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Mar 28, 2006
9:22 pm

... My physicist son says that there were many physicists who contributed no less to the field than Einstein, and that Einstein's name became a household word...
Mira
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Mar 28, 2006
9:35 pm

I agree - you also have to "look" like a genius. Einstein fulfilled that requirement in spades - he created (if that is correct) a new fashion style as well....
Martin Kessler
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Mar 29, 2006
12:17 pm

Anyone who might be interested in understanding more about Kessler's comments about Duesberg and his "iconclastic" view of AIDS should look at "Errors in Celia...
ozarkheretic
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Apr 6, 2006
3:25 pm

Just type "Errors in Celia Farber's March 2006 Article in Harper's Magazine" into the search window and you will find the article. The authors of the article...
ozarkheretic
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Apr 6, 2006
3:38 pm

... It is certainly true that our genes contain a lot of objective knowledge that affects our interpretation of the world around us. For example, information...
Alan Forrester
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Mar 27, 2006
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Alan, would you mind boiling your message down a little? Give us the main points? ... and ... modern ... may ... may ... Szasz ... is ... that ... of...
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In a message dated 3/27/2006 11:54:00 AM Central Standard Time, ozarkheretic@... writes: Has the study of genetics ever been at your expense? What does...
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