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God told him to do it, and he said 'Yeah, okay.'   Message List  
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Re: [ThomasSzaszDiscussion] God told him to do it, and he said 'Yeah, okay.'

Alan Forrester wrote:

> Suppose that God told you to kill a bunch of people with a boning
> knife, would you do it?

Probably not, because I'm too much of a coward. Like Yonah, I would try
to run away. But if He told me to do something I feel capable of, I would.

> If you just had a sudden feeling that you wanted to kill people with
> a boning knife, would you do it?

It seems rather over-obvious to me that a normal person under normal
circumstances would not have such a feeling.

> I think the answer to all these
> three questions is obviously no unless you already had a set of moral
> ideas consistent with killing people with a boning knife.

This does not explain why seemingly normal people suddenly change their
behavior, for instance, when they are drunk.

I.m.o. people who have murdered should be locked up to protect the
public. Why they did it is totally beside the point. All speculation
about it is useless, because we can never be certain about someone's
reasons anyway.

Mira




Wed Oct 5, 2005 5:45 pm

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A Turkish man named Ismail Dogan says that God (and a bird and a dog) told him to kill English people. So naturally he went around stabbing people with a...
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... Probably not, because I'm too much of a coward. Like Yonah, I would try to run away. But if He told me to do something I feel capable of, I would. ... It...
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... I'm not entirely sure how we got to man on a knife rampage to alcohol, but okay I'll bite. Jeffrey Schaler wrote an excelent book called 'Addiction is a...
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... I read about this experiment in Stanton Peele's book (see: http://www.metzelf.info/Book%20Reviews/Diseasing.html) What the researchers set out to...
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... The disease theory says that a form of complex behaviour, to whit, drinking more alcohol, is due to the chemical effects of alcohol, but it is not. I think...
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... You are saying that alcohol (in quantity) affects a person's walk, but not his thoughts or feelings. What about Sodium Pentothal? Mira...
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... Alcohol can affect a person's ability to think. He can also interpret it as causing certain thoughts, but he can change that interpretation. For example,...
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Of course, it matters why a person kills another person. Was the killing an act of self-defense? The facts are very important. There are degrees of murder....
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... Where did you read that? Mira...
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Maybe God will the man to jump off a bridge. ... dog) told ... people ... xml=/news/2005/10/05/ndogan05.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/10/05/ixhome.html ... kill a ... ...
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Maybe the Judge will tell the man that God told the Judge the man should be thrown off a bridge. ... ...
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From: Martin Kessler Isn't it funny (or strange) that when a person makes a claim that God or the devil or a "still small voice" told them to do something...
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Why would someone say the devil told him to do it, when he could say God told him to do it? Is there an advantage to ever saying the devil said to do it? I...
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... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1792416.stm A couple in Germany, Daniel and Manuela Ruder, murdered somebody by stabbing and battering him and then...
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In some instances people claim God told them to do it when a good or approved act is done as opposed to when the Devil made them do it when a bad or...
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... Do you know any such person personally? Or are you assuming this? Mira...
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No, I don't know anyone personally - all I know about is what I read in the news. Of course - in this discourse - it's probably an assumption based on what I ...
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