For those of you who haven't joined over at Smartgroups yet, you may be interested in a new site where you can informally meet with others in your area dealing with cleft issues. http://cleft.meetup.com It's only a couple months old so it will take time to get enough people in your local area. So be sure to tell others about it! If you have a website, just put a link to the meetup on yours, let them know, and they will link you back :). There's also a whole bunch of other topics on the Meetup site, http://www.meetup.com You can find out more about it by going to the above link. You can find out more by reading this newpaper article: http://sptimes.com/2002/10/28/Floridian/The_Internot.shtml I happen to also be in the article, fifth paragraph under the "Computer geeks and Chaplin fans" subtitle. Onto to other news, we are having our weekly chat tonight at 9pm (about 15 minutes from now) at http://cleftclub.com/chat.html As always, you do not need to join either here on Yahoo or Smartgroups to take part in the chat. I am also holding a vote over in the Smartgroups for new chat times: http://smartgroups.com/vote/voteqnairevote.cfm?QID=1390515&GID=1102434 The vote ends on Nov. 21. I will post the results on the chat page when it's over. Have a great night! Kim The Cleft Club http://www.cleftclub.com Born to be Cleft :) http://www.borntobecleft.com Cleft Meetup! http://cleft.meetup.com