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Is it not all dogma in the end?

I felt I was relatively free from dogma of any sought when I was an engineering student thinking about the possibility of photosynthesis of consciousness as a type of reversal of entropy, resonating brain hemispheres etc and it wasn't until I had a run in with secular humanistic psychiatry with all its "dogma" and diagnostic techniques and labels that the problems started. Talk about unscientific baseless crap. That "dogmatic" lobby group has been so powerful and so manipulative of public opinion that they have stepped in to medicalise everything outside their "dogma". The drugs they gave me in "high doses" I now find, apart from them being banned, actually can have side effects of the same symptoms they are using to form the diagnosis. The law has changed a little since then in that they are required to give an involuntary patient a psychiatric assessment before administering drugs. My point is that they need to go a step further and required tests for poisoning, light exposure" and a myriad of other things that could put the patient in distress and even then if the person is just being "spiritual" then they should leave him alone.

I think psychiatry and Christianity as I know it, are mutually exclusive. As I have said before the supposed Christian psychiatrist I was required to see replied, when I stated that "if Jesus was alive today He would make a fantastic psychiatrist" was "No He wouldn't I would pump Him full of Lithium and give him a shot of ECT and I see six "Jesus'" a week."

Talk about dogma - that chaps "dogma" was and is extremely dangerous for a person like me. The frightening thing is that many sungazers including Shriyash could equally have found themselves in my position in my opinion. It is my view that it has got to be stopped for all of our sakes.

I now hear about "Moral Psychology" on

http://nigelwarburton.typepad.com/philosophy_bites/

To take a quote from this program "could it be just more prejudices being put into rationalised theories". I think that there is more abuse to come with the application of MRI scans etc.

What defence have I got except to put on the armour of God and stand my ground.

Ephesians chapter 6 verses 10 to 17 - The Armour of God
Finally, be strong in the Lord, and in the strength of His might. Put on the full armour of God, that you may be able to stand firm against the schemes of the devil. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore, take up the full armour of God, that you may be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm. Stand firm therefore, having girded your loins with truth, and having put on the breastplate of righteousness, and having shod your feet with the preparation of the gospel of peace; in addition to all, taking up the shield of faith with which you will be able to extinguish all the flaming missiles of the evil one. And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.

It has worked out pretty well so far in that I haven't been locked up and tortured again - yet !

By comparison being told to get fucked, and that I am a wanker and that I am ignorant are all water off a ducks back compared with being carted off by two policeman and two psychiatric nurses - one on each appendage to be threatened with electric shock treatment in 2003 just because I objected to being asked for a blow job. Phew that was a close one and no wonder I have needed some serious "dogma" to stand against the "dogma" of psychiatry. As for all the fuss that is being made about "water boarding" by the CIA - while I don't agree with that either. I only wish they had eyes to see what torture is currently being performed on millions with total disregard to human rights in the name of psychiatric treatment. How many of them are sun gazers or could have been "cured" by sun gazing?

The denial of "dogma" by some sun gazers is in itself a "dogma". The dogma being to proclaim that by removing all desire and conflict and moral judgement and by opting out and just sun gazing your way to stepping out of the world entirely and all it problems. That seems to be a bit of a cop out to me and if it truly works surely it is self-centredness in the extreme. I don't criticise that if that is what people want to do but by the same token I shouldn't be criticised for trying to pick up another "dogma" in self defence.

I don't really mind about people dismissing all that I have tried to communicate as "dogma" as long as they don't lock me up. - If it had only happened once by mistake that would be fine, but twice - that has indicated to me that I have had to do some serious work in self defence. If the consequence of that appears to others as intolerance well I am disappointed but I will cope.

Cheers
Doug



Sun May 3, 2009 3:43 am

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Is it not all dogma in the end? I felt I was relatively free from dogma of any sought when I was an engineering student thinking about the possibility of...
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... The denial of "dogma" by some sun gazers is in itself a "dogma". The dogma being to proclaim that by removing all desire and conflict and moral judgement...
Shriyash
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May 3, 2009
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Honestly Doug, sometimes i just dont understand where your 'arguments' or thoughts are coming from. How are you managing to distort what is essentially such a...
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May 3, 2009
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Doug, Ephesians chapter 6 verses 10 to 17 - The Armour of God "Finally, be strong in the Lord, and in the strength of His might. Put on the full armour of God,...
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May 3, 2009
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Truly you guys have been very patient. I think I had better give you all a break and just have a cup of tea and go fishing. I just love sun gazing over water....
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