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Re: Martyrdom for the freedom to be sungazing Christian


It was for me Dan and that is clearly spelled out in my medical records
obtained under the freedom of information act in Australia. That has
been the essence of the human rights battle I have been engaged in.
Cheers Doug
--- In sun_lit@yahoogroups.com, Dan Ghiocel <dan@...> wrote:
>
> I am missing something : Is sungazing forbidden and /or subject to to
> punishment?
> Dan G
> humphriesdoug wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Martyrdom from my understanding is when someone else or some group
of
> > people imposes an unjust torture of punishment on someone.
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martyr
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martyr>
> > The term martyr (Greek
<http://health.groups.yahoo.com/wiki/Language>
> > μάρτυς martys "witness") is most commonly used today to describe
an
> > individual who sacrifices his or her life (or their personal
freedom)
> > in order to further a cause or belief for many. In the past, it
> > initially signified a witness
> > <http://health.groups.yahoo.com/wiki/Witness> in the forensic
> > <http://health.groups.yahoo.com/wiki/Forensic> sense, a person
called
> > to bear witness in legal proceedings. With this meaning it was used
in
> > the secular sphere as well as in both the Old Testament
> > <http://health.groups.yahoo.com/wiki/Old_Testament> and the New
> > Testament <http://health.groups.yahoo.com/wiki/New_Testament> of the
> > Bible <http://health.groups.yahoo.com/wiki/Bible>.[1]
> > <http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/sun_lit/l%20cite_note-0> The
> > process of bearing witness was not intended to lead to the death of
> > the witness, although it is known from ancient writers (e.g.
Josephus
> > <http://health.groups.yahoo.com/wiki/Josephus>) that witnesses,
> > especially of the lower classes, were tortured routinely before
being
> > interrogated as a means of forcing them to disclose the truth.
During
> > the early Christian centuries the term acquired the extended meaning
> > of a believer who is called to witness for his or her religious
belief
> > and on account of this witness endures suffering and death. In the
> > English language, the term is a loanword
> > <http://health.groups.yahoo.com/wiki/Loanword>, and often used with
> > the extended meaning of someone who has been killed for his
religious
> > belief. The death of a martyr or the value attributed to it is
called
> > martyrdom.
> >
> > I would say that having a "cold shower" is a form of martyrdom in
the
> > modern sense by this definition.(LOL). I see that my imprisonment
and
> > torture in a mental hospital for attempting to tell the truth about
> > sun gazing including near death as a result of electric shock
> > treatment is martyrdom in the old sense.
> > It seems that making someone a martyr is, and historically has been,
a
> > powerful means of communicating to people who do NOT have "ears to
> > hear" or "eyes to see". Judging by the interest in the review of the
> > mental health act, I am certainly not alone. My submission is Number
160.
> >
<http://www.health.vic.gov.au/mentalhealth/mhactreview/submissions.htm>h\
ttp://www.health.vic.gov.au/mentalhealth/mhactreview/submissions.htm
> >
<http://www.health.vic.gov.au/mentalhealth/mhactreview/submissions.htm>
> > Submission numbers 5, 59, and 106 look interesting.
> > Here is the home site.
> > http://www.health.vic.gov.au/mentalhealth/mhactreview/
> > <http://www.health.vic.gov.au/mentalhealth/mhactreview/>
> >
> > It is about fighting for the freedom to sun gaze without persecution
> > by the state.
> > I don't want to be a martyr and I certainly didn't ask to be one,
but
> > if the cap fits I guess I just have to wear it.
> > Cheers
> > Doug
> >
> >
> >
>
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Martyrdom from my understanding is when someone else or some group of people imposes an unjust torture of punishment on someone. ...
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May 2, 2009
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I am missing something : Is sungazing forbidden and /or subject to to punishment? Dan G ... I am missing something : Is sungazing forbidden and /or subject to...
Dan Ghiocel
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May 2, 2009
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It was for me Dan and that is clearly spelled out in my medical records obtained under the freedom of information act in Australia. That has been the essence...
humphriesdoug
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May 2, 2009
2:55 am

Sorry, I apologize, I did not know. I am not surprised though. In the name of the "well-being" the institution of medicine is pretty abusive. Dan G ... Sorry,...
Dan Ghiocel
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May 2, 2009
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Hey Dan don't be sorry and certainly don't apologise - Rejoice - the truth about sungazing is being pocked up the "medical elephant's arse" and I hope it...
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