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Another twist to sun gazing while splitting the image Schore's work.   Message List  
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Re: Another twist to sun gazing while splitting the image Schore's work.

Doug, Petre has a good point.

The sun shines equally on all, just as God loves all beings. I believe they do
not quantify or qualify anything or anyone as good or bad since neither God nor
the sun are attached to outcomes one way or the other -- that is man's
limitation.

I do, however, think we have a built in evaluation/ judgment system ...given by
God to guide our actions. Ultimately, on the "day of judgment", and in the
presence of God (and His purified ones), it is we who will bear witness to our
own choices, "good" or "bad". And we will know, by the grace of God, the truth
of our choices, and the effects they had on ourselves and the world.

And even if some choose to ignore their inner Guidance, and some are so out of
balance that they appear to be "evil", ultimately WE are responsible for
creating our own stability or instability, as individuals, and as societies
...helping or hurting ourselves and each other, whichever the case may be.

By accepting God in our hearts, He purifies our being. And it is this state of
purification that protects us. God will still let both good and bad things
happen since we are still here to learn. It is WE who must choose the outcome,
which then is what will be witnessed on "the day of judgment."

The more people that focus on self-stability and also helping others to become
stable, the more the whole world can be stabilized. Yet, the more people that
focus on fear and anger, that too can be felt and transferred to the world
population as a whole.

So when bad things happen, it's not necessarily the "Will of God", it is God
allowing us to LEARN through our mistakes, big and small. This is "justice" (a
balancing out, a reaping what we sow), whether it feels like it or not. But
remember, we are not in this alone, we not only reap what we sow as individuals,
but as societies. So if big pharma makes drugs that kill an innocent child, we
are still just reaping what we sow as a population.

Further, humanity is like the sun, we shine on each other, we pass our energies
to each other ...in many ways, and multiple levels. But how many people know
that their thoughts and feelings affect the people physically near them and all
of humanity at a group consciousness level? People without this knowledge act
carelessly due to their ignorance ...and this carelessness takes the shape of
hurting themselves and others without the knowledge of what they are creating.

I believe there are moments in time that "God" steps in to stop us from our own
self-destruction, but on the whole I believe God lets us go through the
consequences of our own actions and of those around us so we learn we are
responsible for our selves and each other ...that we are all connected ...that
we are all One -- and we should start acting like it.

God is the best Parent. He doesn't DO anything for us. He makes us do for
ourselves to learn and grow. He allows us to suffer the consequences of our
actions (and those around us). And if one of us is misguided, He expects us to
"love our neighbor" and either help him back to balance, or at least have
compassion for his affliction ...even if this person did "evil" to us or
another.

This does NOT mean, however, that we should not stand up for ourselves when an
injustice has been done. On the contrary ...we must learn to live fully, bravely
and stamp out weakness in ourselves (and help others to do the same) and not
allow the weakness/ corruption of others to overcome our own stability and
infinite being. This is part of being a complete human being.

ramble, ramble ....sometime I wish I had the talent to say things in a more
concise way. Oh well. ; )

Much love,

Kathy





--- In sun_lit@yahoogroups.com, Petre Misicu <pmisicu@...> wrote:
>
> "Once my focus was moved from that terror to the love of God, SG was able to
> burn through the ropes of bondage holding those terrors onto my heart - that
> is what it has felt like anyway. So for me, I didn't want to let my mind go
> blank because of those and other terrors coming out of my wounded "unclean"
> heart at that time ."
>
>
>
> Doug, have you ever meditated on the source of terror, fear?
>
> How would be possible for the sunlight to remove the fears if they are not
> merely shadows of one's ego?
>
>
>
> There is a logic principle: if A->B and B->C, then A->C.
>
> Some examples
>
> · if the first commandment asks man to love God and if God loves
> all his creation, then man should love the entire creation.
>
> · If a man loves the sun and the sun sheds his light equally on
> virtuous ones and wrongdoers, the man should love equally all people
>
>
>
> I believe all the religion stuff talking is meaningless unless the above
> principles are understood.
>
>
>
> Petre
>





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I have mentioned before how I have found "splitting the image" of the sun into two suns as something I have found beneficial in removing anxiety and bringing...
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Doug, I'm glad this seems to work for you. But something doesn't feel right about this approach. I would proceed with caution. When you split your vision,...
Katharine Bayer
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Thanks Kathy - it all makes sense to me. There is a lot to look at on that brain site. Methyl Mercury targets the hypothalamus and the pineal gland I gather...
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Guess what. I just tried sun gazing onto a single sun with a blank mind and what should "pop up" but the Lord's prayer and the Apostle's Creed. May be I have...
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Yes, Doug, give it a chance. You've trained your mind by repetition, so it makes sense that it would naturally lean toward the pattern that was already in...
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I love this discussion about the heart. . When I first started SG again in 2003 I had a frightening premonition about a nuclear attack by a bomb placed in a...
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Doug, my intuition says that your heart is fine. From what I've heard in your posts, your intentions are good and righteous. Understand though, fear does not...
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“Once my focus was moved from that terror to the love of God, SG was able to burn through the ropes of bondage holding those terrors onto my heart - that is...
Petre Misicu
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Doug, Petre has a good point. The sun shines equally on all, just as God loves all beings. I believe they do not quantify or qualify anything or anyone as good...
Katharine Bayer
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Thanks Kathy and Petre, can I reply to you both - I think you are spot on Kathy in that from 1971 to 2003 although I have known that my experience with SG was...
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Thanks Doug, I'm honored to share a journey of learning with you. Kathy...
Katharine Bayer
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Dear Kathy you shouldn't feel honoured as a consequence of travelling with me- we all have an oar in the water and each of us has a turn at putting our back...
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Hi Doug, I am honored, not because you are better than anyone, but because I have an opportunity to learn during this process of posting with another being of...
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Petre What you said here is true. "If a man loves the sun and the sun sheds his light equally on virtuous ones and wrongdoers, the man should love equally all...
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Hi Doug, I've never actually been able to split the single Sun that i see into 2, and the only way that effect would happen is if i were trying sungazing by...
Shriyash
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I have been thinking again about my experience with split image sun gazing and your comment on being "cross-eyed' in order to be able to do it. I still think...
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Apr 10, 2009
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I could not say it better Kathy! Especially the following are a good theme of meditation: "By accepting God in our hearts, He purifies our being. And it is...
Petre Liviu Misicu
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Thanks Petre, "Some say that the saints and the great yogis or Bodhisattvas are keeping this world from falling apart just by the stability/peace created...
Katharine Bayer
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Kathy, "I also want to say ...that no human being in the history of time has ever been perfect. We were never intended to be perfect. God is perfect and we are...
Petre Liviu Misicu
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Petre, I agree in the most part with your statement, but I do believe that we need Teachers who already know the road we're traveling because they've already...
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I used to feel the same about organised religion. However, I now believe that theology is like the charts that a seafarer takes to sea with him in order to...
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Kathy, Every person, even your kids, can teach you something, and I believe the key is to have an open mind. God talks through everything, but are we tending...
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Peter, I definitely agree that all of life is our teacher -- especially the child. I don't know what you mean by "certified teacher", but the Sufi Master of my...
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