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Re: allergy season and (possibly) flu?

Here is an interesting fact about relationship between flu and
human nose - human hose is too cold, at least for avian flu:

http://www.physorg.com/news161611542.html

Somewhat it supports the idea that nasal breathing might
reduce chances of infection.

Regards,
Yevgen

--- In strelnikova_exercise@yahoogroups.com, mclaym1@... wrote:
>
> Yevgen,
>
> I do see your point of you. In this society, we have been particularly
> frustrated with false promises of many products (not just this exercise),
which
> are currently on the market today. It is just that very few things in life
> really work, and it usually takes many years to find out what they are.
> Some people will never know. This is where my frustration comes from.
>
> Best Regards,
>
>
> Mark
>
>
> In a message dated 5/11/2009 1:17:24 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> evgenij_b@... writes:
>
>
>
>
>
> Hello Mark!
>
> I certainly agree that it will not prevent infection if you
> are exposed to massive dose of patogen. Say you are living
> with infected person, or have been hanging out with one for
> long time.
> However, much lighter exposures are much more common. Say an infected
> person has walked passed you in a train station.
> Will it get you or not? It is an open question. How many
> viruses does it take to cause an infection - 100, 1000, 10000?
>
> Innate (first level) immune system is quite good at isolating patogenes
> even if no "learned" immunity exists. Once it does, it will expose the
> "residual" to "learned" immune system for recognizing them in the future.
>
> I argue that nasal breathing can change your exposure from "above
> limit" (infection) to "below limit" (isolated by innate immunity, creating
> learned immunity as result) in many cases. Not in all cases,
> but in many (maybe most common once).
>
> It is like everything else in Life - there are no guaranties, but there
> are probabilities which you can increase or decrease by your actions.
>
> Certainly "cure all" promises will always be false, no matter what
> they are. Body is much to complex and highly individual a system to have
> universal solutions.
> The key point is that body is a system that can function by itself,
> and everything we are doing externally is just a small adjustment to what
> it is already doing.
>
> In your case you have achieved some improvements in one area,
> we reached quite a radical improvement (elimination of asthma) in
> other area, somobody else will achieve improvement in yet another
> area. Possibly the reason of the huge optimism that Shetinin
> has about this exercise that he has been actually practicing
> it with hundreds and possibly thousands patients, so he has indeed
> see all the improvements he is talking about at least with some of them.
> Which does not mean it will do it for every one, so his
> extrapolation is not necessarily correct. Some improvements are more
> common (asthma and other respiratory problems related
> for example) that is why they are the primary focus.
>
> But it almost never harms either (as opposite to a lot of other medical or
> surgical treatments) so you are almost guarantied
> an improvement at least in some area, just because you are encouraging
> in yourself a more physically active life-style.
>
> Regards,
> Yevgen
>
> --- In _strelnikova_strelnikostrelnikova_str_
> (mailto:strelnikova_exercise@yahoogroups.com) , mclaym1@ wrote:
> >
> > Yevgen,
> >
> > Good to hear from you.
> >
> > I do not think Strelnikova exercise can stop any flu virus. One might
> argue
> > it strengthens one's immune system, but I do not think it is effective
> for
> > stopping all viruses. I did this exercise twice a day continuously and
> > still managed to get a flu virus this winter.
> >
> > The main accomplishment I had with these exercises was elimination of
> > food allergies. It has also energizing and mood uplifting properties. It
> had no
> > effect on my blood pressure or weight issues. It had only small effects
> on
> > my speech-it does seem to improve one's voice if it is done with various
> > speech exercises. Other than that, I think benefits of it are greatly
> > exaggerated. I have been doing it for close to two years now.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 5/8/2009 9:02:38 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> > evgenij_b@ evgenij_b@
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > This years allergy season upon us, and me and my daughter are starting
> to
> > feel some effects on airways congestion. Time to scale-up
> > the exercise routine!
> > Admittedly, we have been slacking a little during the winter time
> > as this year nobody got any asthma attacks or even a cold.
> > Which is by itself remarkable and might be a result of regular
> > exercise before. Alas, it is common to become complacent if
> > everything looks good for long.
> >
> > All the talk about swine flue also contributes to our
> > increased awareness of the need of breathing exercise.
> > After all, it does promote automatic (without thinking) nasal breathing
> > and widens the airways. Which both are a benefit in
> > a potential flu epidemic.
> > Why?
> > 1) prevention (nasal breathing allows to "sample" the virus in small
> > quantities as it gets stack in the nose mucus without reaching the
> lungs,
> > and develop an immunity without actually getting sick). Gradually
> > increasing number of people with indirect immunity is a reason why all
> pandemics
> > eventually stop. It is good to be one of these "blocking" people, rather
> than
> > one of the patients.
> >
> > 2) better outcome if hit (wider airways make bronchial spasm less likely
>
> > as it disrupts CO2 depletion pathway, and of cause the symptoms of
> > inflammation such as shortness of breath are also less severe).
> Particularly swine
> > flu is known to cause an over-reaction of immune system with massive
> > inflammation in the lungs. That is where patient would benefit from any
> additional
> > diameter of the airways that he can get.
> >
> > Of cause even with exercise the good practices as staying away from the
> > crowds and religiously washing hands while avoiding touching face are
> still
> > important. One good outcome of the excessive publicity about swine flu
> might
> > be increased awareness of this practices, which might save thousands of
> > lives in up-coming normal flu season. After all, completely normal
> common flu
> > kills 25000 people every year in USA alone.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Yevgen
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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This years allergy season upon us, and me and my daughter are starting to feel some effects on airways congestion. Time to scale-up the exercise routine! ...
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Yevgen, Good to hear from you. I do not think Strelnikova exercise can stop any flu virus. One might argue it strengthens one's immune system, but I do not...
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May 10, 2009
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Hello Mark! I certainly agree that it will not prevent infection if you are exposed to massive dose of patogen. Say you are living with infected person, or...
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May 11, 2009
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Yevgen, I do see your point of you. In this society, we have been particularly frustrated with false promises of many products (not just this exercise), which ...
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Here is an interesting fact about relationship between flu and human nose - human hose is too cold, at least for avian flu: ...
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