Do any of you use small towels when you shave? I bought some tea towels at the
Giant Retailer That Shall Not Be Named for a dollar each and I use one for each
shave. They are small but not bulky like terry cloth hand towels and handy to
keep my hand dry and free from soap as I shave and for clean up after. Bowman
Barber Supply has these towels for sale:
http://www.bowmanbeauty.com/store/shop.mvc?page=BBS/PROD/1-11000/AD2910 that I'm
thinking of getting for my son as I outfit him for shaving. Any comments?



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-I bought my cd from classic shaving when Ray was around. May god
bless his soul...and yes indeed is a nice informative cd. Sam...-





- In straightrazorplace@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn" <adjustme69@...>
wrote:
>
> For those of you not familiar with Bill's CD's and work, both are
> absolutely excellent resources. Highly recommended.
>
> Lynn
>
> --- In straightrazorplace@yahoogroups.com, "urlee_bird"
> <urleebird@> wrote:
> >
> > For those of you who may have an interest in restoring razors, I
> just
> > finished the newest version of my CD. This one has over an hour
of
> > video instruction on it as well. Here is the web site.
> >
> > http://www.billysblades.com/Straight%20Razor%20Book.htm
> >
> > thanks in advance...   Bill
> >
>

-I bought my cd from classic shaving when Ray was around. May god
bless his soul...and yes indeed is a nice informative cd. Sam...-





- In straightrazorplace@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn" <adjustme69@...>
wrote:
>
> For those of you not familiar with Bill's CD's and work, both are
> absolutely excellent resources. Highly recommended.
>
> Lynn
>
> --- In straightrazorplace@yahoogroups.com, "urlee_bird"
> <urleebird@> wrote:
> >
> > For those of you who may have an interest in restoring razors, I
> just
> > finished the newest version of my CD. This one has over an hour
of
> > video instruction on it as well. Here is the web site.
> >
> > http://www.billysblades.com/Straight%20Razor%20Book.htm
> >
> > thanks in advance...   Bill
> >
>

Hmmmmnnn? Maybe the hollow grounds were the equivelant of multiple
blade cartridges in their day. Just a thought.

Dennis the Menace


--- In straightrazorplace@yahoogroups.com, "Fred van Akkeren"
<fredvanakk@...> wrote:
>
> I've just got an 8/8 Friodur and it is humongous.
> I don't think I would use it every day.
> But it's quite sharp and shaves fine. Must be more careful then when
> using 5/8 or 6/8
> I also just got a wedge Dorko and must say that it is wonderful.
> Hones nicely and is sharp like nothing else. (does the hanging hair)
> Still wonder why the wedge got into the back ground. All you see is
> hollow ground.
>
> Fred
>
>
>
> --- In straightrazorplace@yahoogroups.com, STEVE CULLER
> <steve_culler@> wrote:
> >
> > i shave with a 5/8 that is not the best quality but it works ok. i
> bought a 6/8 and have not recieved it yet. i cut myself every time i
> shave. i also have never honed my 5/8 is it technique (will i chop my
> face off with my 6/8) or is it that is not sharp enough? any help is
> appreciated thank you
> >
> >
> >
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> >
>

I'LL SECOND THAT.............. Bill's CD is an excellent source to use if you
are into restoring razors or just want to replace the scales or polish a blade.
This CD that he just did is going to be even better than his first one, in fact
I just ordered one for myself before they are gone.

   Bill Watkins

Lynn <adjustme69@...> wrote:
           For those of you not familiar with Bill's CD's and work, both are
absolutely excellent resources. Highly recommended.

Lynn

--- In straightrazorplace@yahoogroups.com, "urlee_bird"
<urleebird@...> wrote:
>
> For those of you who may have an interest in restoring razors, I
just
> finished the newest version of my CD. This one has over an hour of
> video instruction on it as well. Here is the web site.
>
> http://www.billysblades.com/Straight%20Razor%20Book.htm
>
> thanks in advance... Bill
>






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For those of you not familiar with Bill's CD's and work, both are
absolutely excellent resources. Highly recommended.

Lynn

--- In straightrazorplace@yahoogroups.com, "urlee_bird"
<urleebird@...> wrote:
>
> For those of you who may have an interest in restoring razors, I
just
> finished the newest version of my CD. This one has over an hour of
> video instruction on it as well. Here is the web site.
>
> http://www.billysblades.com/Straight%20Razor%20Book.htm
>
> thanks in advance...   Bill
>

For those of you who may have an interest in restoring razors, I just
finished the newest version of my CD. This one has over an hour of
video instruction on it as well. Here is the web site.

http://www.billysblades.com/Straight%20Razor%20Book.htm

thanks in advance...   Bill

Thanks everyone for the advice about hones for cutlery. These are things I'd not
thought about. I'll buy her some sort of whetstone or sharpener. -- Daniel

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I've just got an 8/8 Friodur and it is humongous.
I don't think I would use it every day.
But it's quite sharp and shaves fine. Must be more careful then when
using 5/8 or 6/8
I also just got a wedge Dorko and must say that it is wonderful.
Hones nicely and is sharp like nothing else. (does the hanging hair)
Still wonder why the wedge got into the back ground. All you see is
hollow ground.

Fred



--- In straightrazorplace@yahoogroups.com, STEVE CULLER
<steve_culler@...> wrote:
>
> i shave with a 5/8 that is not the best quality but it works ok. i
bought a 6/8 and have not recieved it yet. i cut myself every time i
shave. i also have never honed my 5/8 is it technique (will i chop my
face off with my 6/8) or is it that is not sharp enough? any help is
appreciated thank you
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
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Hi Guys,

Let me put my 5 cents.
I have a $120 motorized hone (Chef choice) and it is good for nothing.
I rather sharpen kitchen knifes on a diamond steel and/or a good hone.
The diamond steel is fast so more handy when your wifes suddenly needs
a sharp knife, but eats a lot of your blade quickly.
I somtimes use a Coticule for kitchen knifes too (especially for the
expensive high quality kitchen knifes) but be careful not to damage
the hone. Go easy on the strokes.
You must really keep the hone very flat for the razors.
I got an extra small coticule to flatten the stone and to make a
"sludge" I also use fine waterproof sandpaper to flatten the hone.
Hope my 2 cents are worth it.


Fred





--- In straightrazorplace@yahoogroups.com, "EL" <elbolicious@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Daniel,
>
> In my experience the edge a barber hone will produce is far too
> delicate for a kitchen knife. It will be blunted rather quickly
> against the cutting board. I would advise one of those motorized chef
> mates sharpeners to keep the kitchen knives keen. It does a wonderful
> job of putting a lasting edge on a good knife. Hope that helps.
>
> Regards,
> EL
>
>
> --- In straightrazorplace@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel Partner" <dp@>
> wrote:
> >
> > I am inclined to tell my daughter not to use her husband's straight
> razor hone (one of Tilly's Lithides) for her kitchen knife. How about
> you? If so, tell me why.
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

Joe,
      You are right and so were mine except these were soooooo much sharper than
the others that I got from TI.

   Bill

Joseph Lerch <misterbenicio@...> wrote:
           All of my TIs were like that right out of the box.

Bill Watkins <bill.watkins@...> wrote: Tony,
I bought an Thiers-Issard Egyptian Sheaf razor from ClassicShaving and I mean to
tell you that thing, right from the box, is the sharpest razor that I think that
I have used. All that I have done to it is strop it. I believe that Lynn will
attest to this as he has two of them and he also says they are unbelievably
sharpe right from the box. Maybe Thiers-Issard just likes these razors. LOL LOL

Bill

heirphoto@... wrote:
I was told by a gentleman at Thiers Issard that they use kerosene (naptha to the
French) as it clears away the slurry faster. It their opinion (I was told) they
felt the small metal/stone particles (swarf) could possibly deflect the fine
edge in the final steps of honing.
This would kind of match what El's practice sounds like to me. Use a slurry
early on for fast cutting as you have both the garnet in the stones surface as
well as the garnet suspended in the slurry doing the cutting. One the heavy work
is done cleaning the stone would remove any slurry and swarf leaving only a fine
hard surface for the final stage.
I have blades honed by both Lynn and El and can say both of these guys know
their stuff.
I wonder if this method is what accounts for Thiers Issard razors generally
feeling sharper right out of the box. The latest Dovos I have bought seemed far
sharper to me than before. Any will take arm hairs off right from the box. My
last Fromms and Timors were no where near that sharp unless I did serious work
on them. The latest Dovos have been a charm to hone.
Tony

--
Tony Miller
The Heirloom Razor Strop Co.
www.thewellshavedgentleman.com
443-717-3969

-------------- Original message --------------
From: "EL" <elbolicious@...>

> Hi Paul,
>
> When I use a slurry I use it in a rapid sharpening process where I
> know I've got to do a little work to take a razor down to an edge.
> Once I'm there I clean my hone (a Belgian) with soap and water and
> dry it on a cotton towel. From there I continue to hone dry until I
> reach the fineness of edge I want.
>
> The consistency of the slurry I use is not as thick as mud per se but
> it's definitely thicker than water. Experimentation is the only way I
> know of that will allow a person to know what slurry consistency they
> can work best with. I personally am not good at using a slurry as a
> final polishing method but others here are probably much more
> successful using it that way and I hope they can offer their
> experience here as well. Hope that helps.
>
> Regards,
> EL
>
>
> --- In straightrazorplace@yahoogroups.com, "novice_7"
> wrote:
> >
> > ok this may be a stupid question but i'll ask anyway. for those of
> you
> > in the group who hone with a slurry (either as you hone or created
> > prior to). what is the consistency? i've seen the Norbert Schick
> video
> > and he seems to create a slurry thats like mud. is the consistency
> to
> > aim for or does it vary from hone to hone?
> >
> > Paul
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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All of my TIs were like that right out of the box.

Bill Watkins <bill.watkins@...> wrote:          Tony,
I bought an Thiers-Issard Egyptian Sheaf razor from ClassicShaving and I mean to
tell you that thing, right from the box, is the sharpest razor that I think that
I have used. All that I have done to it is strop it. I believe that Lynn will
attest to this as he has two of them and he also says they are unbelievably
sharpe right from the box. Maybe Thiers-Issard just likes these razors. LOL LOL

Bill


heirphoto@... wrote:
I was told by a gentleman at Thiers Issard that they use kerosene (naptha to the
French) as it clears away the slurry faster. It their opinion (I was told) they
felt the small metal/stone particles (swarf) could possibly deflect the fine
edge in the final steps of honing.
This would kind of match what El's practice sounds like to me. Use a slurry
early on for fast cutting as you have both the garnet in the stones surface as
well as the garnet suspended in the slurry doing the cutting. One the heavy work
is done cleaning the stone would remove any slurry and swarf leaving only a fine
hard surface for the final stage.
I have blades honed by both Lynn and El and can say both of these guys know
their stuff.
I wonder if this method is what accounts for Thiers Issard razors generally
feeling sharper right out of the box. The latest Dovos I have bought seemed far
sharper to me than before. Any will take arm hairs off right from the box. My
last Fromms and Timors were no where near that sharp unless I did serious work
on them. The latest Dovos have been a charm to hone.
Tony

--
Tony Miller
The Heirloom Razor Strop Co.
www.thewellshavedgentleman.com
443-717-3969

-------------- Original message --------------
From: "EL" <elbolicious@...>

> Hi Paul,
>
> When I use a slurry I use it in a rapid sharpening process where I
> know I've got to do a little work to take a razor down to an edge.
> Once I'm there I clean my hone (a Belgian) with soap and water and
> dry it on a cotton towel. From there I continue to hone dry until I
> reach the fineness of edge I want.
>
> The consistency of the slurry I use is not as thick as mud per se but
> it's definitely thicker than water. Experimentation is the only way I
> know of that will allow a person to know what slurry consistency they
> can work best with. I personally am not good at using a slurry as a
> final polishing method but others here are probably much more
> successful using it that way and I hope they can offer their
> experience here as well. Hope that helps.
>
> Regards,
> EL
>
>
> --- In straightrazorplace@yahoogroups.com, "novice_7"
> wrote:
> >
> > ok this may be a stupid question but i'll ask anyway. for those of
> you
> > in the group who hone with a slurry (either as you hone or created
> > prior to). what is the consistency? i've seen the Norbert Schick
> video
> > and he seems to create a slurry thats like mud. is the consistency
> to
> > aim for or does it vary from hone to hone?
> >
> > Paul
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Have you ever tried the coticule dry?  To me, it seems coarser than the slurry.

Lynn <adjustme69@...> wrote:          Hi Paul,

I like to use a heave slurry on both the Coticule and the Escher. Not
like mud, but thick. I usually limit the number of strokes to 10 on
carbon blades, 15 on SS and up to 30 on Damascus.

Have fun.

Lynn

--- In straightrazorplace@yahoogroups.com, "novice_7" <waldnerj@...>
wrote:
>
> ok this may be a stupid question but i'll ask anyway. for those of you
> in the group who hone with a slurry (either as you hone or created
> prior to). what is the consistency? i've seen the Norbert Schick video
> and he seems to create a slurry thats like mud. is the consistency to
> aim for or does it vary from hone to hone?
>
> Paul
>






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My experience is that the coticule is not nearly as fine dry as with a slurry,
so finishing dry would seem to be counterproduct.

EL <elbolicious@...> wrote:
   Once I'm there I clean my hone (a Belgian) with soap and water and
dry it on a cotton towel. From there I continue to hone dry until I
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If she knows what she's doing, it can't do any harm, but the stone is much too
fine for a kitchen knife.  She'll have to work incredibly hard to get any result
with it.

Daniel Partner <dp@...> wrote:          I am inclined to tell my
daughter not to use her husband's straight razor hone (one of Tilly's Lithides)
for her kitchen knife. How about you? If so, tell me why.

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My thinking is that tit must make a difference.  The thickness depends on the
proportion between particles and water, so a thicker mix should be faster. 
Having said that, I don't notice a lot of variation.  Basically, I just get the
stone surface completely wet, with a little puddling on the surface, and work up
the slurry.  It seems to come out the same all the time, and it's not nearly as
thick as mud.  It's more like watered down skimmed milk.

novice_7 <waldnerj@...> wrote:          ok this may be a stupid question
but i'll ask anyway. for those of you
in the group who hone with a slurry (either as you hone or created
prior to). what is the consistency? i've seen the Norbert Schick video
and he seems to create a slurry thats like mud. is the consistency to
aim for or does it vary from hone to hone?

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El,
      Danielle, Rays daughter, pays me to advertise for them.  Just kidding.
      They still have TI Egyptian Keystone razors which has pretty close to the
same blade on it.  It is a 5/8 and the decor on the spine is different and has
Palmwood scales.  I just liked the Snakewood scales better and the 6/8 blade.

   Bill

EL <elbolicious@...> wrote:
           Bill,

I noticed that since you've posted these comments Classicshaving is
out of stock on these razors.

Can anyone say run on razors? LOL

Regards,
EL

--- In straightrazorplace@yahoogroups.com, Bill Watkins
<bill.watkins@...> wrote:
>
> Tony,
> I bought an Thiers-Issard Egyptian Sheaf razor from
ClassicShaving and I mean to tell you that thing, right from the box,
is the sharpest razor that I think that I have used. All that I have
done to it is strop it. I believe that Lynn will attest to this as
he has two of them and he also says they are unbelievably sharpe
right from the box. Maybe Thiers-Issard just likes these razors.
LOL LOL
>
> Bill
>
>
> heirphoto@... wrote:
> I was told by a gentleman at Thiers Issard that they use
kerosene (naptha to the French) as it clears away the slurry faster.
It their opinion (I was told) they felt the small metal/stone
particles (swarf) could possibly deflect the fine edge in the final
steps of honing.
> This would kind of match what El's practice sounds like to me. Use
a slurry early on for fast cutting as you have both the garnet in the
stones surface as well as the garnet suspended in the slurry doing
the cutting. One the heavy work is done cleaning the stone would
remove any slurry and swarf leaving only a fine hard surface for the
final stage.
> I have blades honed by both Lynn and El and can say both of these
guys know their stuff.
> I wonder if this method is what accounts for Thiers Issard razors
generally feeling sharper right out of the box. The latest Dovos I
have bought seemed far sharper to me than before. Any will take arm
hairs off right from the box. My last Fromms and Timors were no where
near that sharp unless I did serious work on them. The latest Dovos
have been a charm to hone.
> Tony
>
> --
> Tony Miller
> The Heirloom Razor Strop Co.
> www.thewellshavedgentleman.com
> 443-717-3969
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: "EL" <elbolicious@...>
>
> > Hi Paul,
> >
> > When I use a slurry I use it in a rapid sharpening process where
I
> > know I've got to do a little work to take a razor down to an
edge.
> > Once I'm there I clean my hone (a Belgian) with soap and water
and
> > dry it on a cotton towel. From there I continue to hone dry until
I
> > reach the fineness of edge I want.
> >
> > The consistency of the slurry I use is not as thick as mud per se
but
> > it's definitely thicker than water. Experimentation is the only
way I
> > know of that will allow a person to know what slurry consistency
they
> > can work best with. I personally am not good at using a slurry as
a
> > final polishing method but others here are probably much more
> > successful using it that way and I hope they can offer their
> > experience here as well. Hope that helps.
> >
> > Regards,
> > EL
> >
> >
> > --- In straightrazorplace@yahoogroups.com, "novice_7"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > ok this may be a stupid question but i'll ask anyway. for those
of
> > you
> > > in the group who hone with a slurry (either as you hone or
created
> > > prior to). what is the consistency? i've seen the Norbert
Schick
> > video
> > > and he seems to create a slurry thats like mud. is the
consistency
> > to
> > > aim for or does it vary from hone to hone?
> > >
> > > Paul
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
>
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I do have two of the TI Egyptians as well as 2 of the TI Pierre's and
I can definitely tell you guys that these are some of the very best
shavers I own. They required virtually no initial honing and were
spectacular. I also heard that Classic may be out of the Eqyptians.
These and a couple other brands in addition to my Maestro's are really
all I shave with when I get a break from testing the razors I am
honing. Have fun.

Lynn

--- In straightrazorplace@yahoogroups.com, "EL" <elbolicious@...> wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> I noticed that since you've posted these comments Classicshaving is
> out of stock on these razors.
>
> Can anyone say run on razors? LOL
>
> Regards,
> EL
>
>
>
> --- In straightrazorplace@yahoogroups.com, Bill Watkins
> <bill.watkins@> wrote:
> >
> > Tony,
> >      I bought an Thiers-Issard Egyptian Sheaf razor from
> ClassicShaving and I mean to tell you that thing, right from the box,
> is the sharpest razor that I think that I have used.  All that I have
> done to it is strop it.  I believe that Lynn will attest to this as
> he has two of them and he also says they are unbelievably sharpe
> right from the box.  Maybe Thiers-Issard just likes these razors.
> LOL LOL
> >
> >   Bill
> >
> >
> > heirphoto@ wrote:
> >           I was told by a gentleman at Thiers Issard that they use
> kerosene (naptha to the French) as it clears away the slurry faster.
> It their opinion (I was told) they felt the small metal/stone
> particles (swarf) could possibly deflect the fine edge in the final
> steps of honing.
> > This would kind of match what El's practice sounds like to me. Use
> a slurry early on for fast cutting as you have both the garnet in the
> stones surface as well as the garnet suspended in the slurry doing
> the cutting. One the heavy work is done cleaning the stone would
> remove any slurry and swarf leaving only a fine hard surface for the
> final stage.
> > I have blades honed by both Lynn and El and can say both of these
> guys know their stuff.
> > I wonder if this method is what accounts for Thiers Issard razors
> generally feeling sharper right out of the box. The latest Dovos I
> have bought seemed far sharper to me than before. Any will take arm
> hairs off right from the box. My last Fromms and Timors were no where
> near that sharp unless I did serious work on them. The latest Dovos
> have been a charm to hone.
> > Tony
> >
> > --
> > Tony Miller
> > The Heirloom Razor Strop Co.
> > www.thewellshavedgentleman.com
> > 443-717-3969
> >
> > -------------- Original message --------------
> > From: "EL" <elbolicious@>
> >
> > > Hi Paul,
> > >
> > > When I use a slurry I use it in a rapid sharpening process where
> I
> > > know I've got to do a little work to take a razor down to an
> edge.
> > > Once I'm there I clean my hone (a Belgian) with soap and water
> and
> > > dry it on a cotton towel. From there I continue to hone dry until
> I
> > > reach the fineness of edge I want.
> > >
> > > The consistency of the slurry I use is not as thick as mud per se
> but
> > > it's definitely thicker than water. Experimentation is the only
> way I
> > > know of that will allow a person to know what slurry consistency
> they
> > > can work best with. I personally am not good at using a slurry as
> a
> > > final polishing method but others here are probably much more
> > > successful using it that way and I hope they can offer their
> > > experience here as well. Hope that helps.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > EL
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In straightrazorplace@yahoogroups.com, "novice_7"
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > ok this may be a stupid question but i'll ask anyway. for those
> of
> > > you
> > > > in the group who hone with a slurry (either as you hone or
> created
> > > > prior to). what is the consistency? i've seen the Norbert
> Schick
> > > video
> > > > and he seems to create a slurry thats like mud. is the
> consistency
> > > to
> > > > aim for or does it vary from hone to hone?
> > > >
> > > > Paul
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
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>

Bill,

I noticed that since you've posted these comments Classicshaving is
out of stock on these razors.

Can anyone say run on razors? LOL

Regards,
EL



--- In straightrazorplace@yahoogroups.com, Bill Watkins
<bill.watkins@...> wrote:
>
> Tony,
>      I bought an Thiers-Issard Egyptian Sheaf razor from
ClassicShaving and I mean to tell you that thing, right from the box,
is the sharpest razor that I think that I have used.  All that I have
done to it is strop it.  I believe that Lynn will attest to this as
he has two of them and he also says they are unbelievably sharpe
right from the box.  Maybe Thiers-Issard just likes these razors.
LOL LOL
>
>   Bill
>
>
> heirphoto@... wrote:
>           I was told by a gentleman at Thiers Issard that they use
kerosene (naptha to the French) as it clears away the slurry faster.
It their opinion (I was told) they felt the small metal/stone
particles (swarf) could possibly deflect the fine edge in the final
steps of honing.
> This would kind of match what El's practice sounds like to me. Use
a slurry early on for fast cutting as you have both the garnet in the
stones surface as well as the garnet suspended in the slurry doing
the cutting. One the heavy work is done cleaning the stone would
remove any slurry and swarf leaving only a fine hard surface for the
final stage.
> I have blades honed by both Lynn and El and can say both of these
guys know their stuff.
> I wonder if this method is what accounts for Thiers Issard razors
generally feeling sharper right out of the box. The latest Dovos I
have bought seemed far sharper to me than before. Any will take arm
hairs off right from the box. My last Fromms and Timors were no where
near that sharp unless I did serious work on them. The latest Dovos
have been a charm to hone.
> Tony
>
> --
> Tony Miller
> The Heirloom Razor Strop Co.
> www.thewellshavedgentleman.com
> 443-717-3969
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: "EL" <elbolicious@...>
>
> > Hi Paul,
> >
> > When I use a slurry I use it in a rapid sharpening process where
I
> > know I've got to do a little work to take a razor down to an
edge.
> > Once I'm there I clean my hone (a Belgian) with soap and water
and
> > dry it on a cotton towel. From there I continue to hone dry until
I
> > reach the fineness of edge I want.
> >
> > The consistency of the slurry I use is not as thick as mud per se
but
> > it's definitely thicker than water. Experimentation is the only
way I
> > know of that will allow a person to know what slurry consistency
they
> > can work best with. I personally am not good at using a slurry as
a
> > final polishing method but others here are probably much more
> > successful using it that way and I hope they can offer their
> > experience here as well. Hope that helps.
> >
> > Regards,
> > EL
> >
> >
> > --- In straightrazorplace@yahoogroups.com, "novice_7"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > ok this may be a stupid question but i'll ask anyway. for those
of
> > you
> > > in the group who hone with a slurry (either as you hone or
created
> > > prior to). what is the consistency? i've seen the Norbert
Schick
> > video
> > > and he seems to create a slurry thats like mud. is the
consistency
> > to
> > > aim for or does it vary from hone to hone?
> > >
> > > Paul
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Tony,
      I bought an Thiers-Issard Egyptian Sheaf razor from ClassicShaving and I
mean to tell you that thing, right from the box, is the sharpest razor that I
think that I have used.  All that I have done to it is strop it.  I believe that
Lynn will attest to this as he has two of them and he also says they are
unbelievably sharpe right from the box.  Maybe Thiers-Issard just likes these
razors.  LOL LOL

   Bill


heirphoto@... wrote:
           I was told by a gentleman at Thiers Issard that they use kerosene
(naptha to the French) as it clears away the slurry faster. It their opinion (I
was told) they felt the small metal/stone particles (swarf) could possibly
deflect the fine edge in the final steps of honing.
This would kind of match what El's practice sounds like to me. Use a slurry
early on for fast cutting as you have both the garnet in the stones surface as
well as the garnet suspended in the slurry doing the cutting. One the heavy work
is done cleaning the stone would remove any slurry and swarf leaving only a fine
hard surface for the final stage.
I have blades honed by both Lynn and El and can say both of these guys know
their stuff.
I wonder if this method is what accounts for Thiers Issard razors generally
feeling sharper right out of the box. The latest Dovos I have bought seemed far
sharper to me than before. Any will take arm hairs off right from the box. My
last Fromms and Timors were no where near that sharp unless I did serious work
on them. The latest Dovos have been a charm to hone.
Tony

--
Tony Miller
The Heirloom Razor Strop Co.
www.thewellshavedgentleman.com
443-717-3969

-------------- Original message --------------
From: "EL" <elbolicious@...>

> Hi Paul,
>
> When I use a slurry I use it in a rapid sharpening process where I
> know I've got to do a little work to take a razor down to an edge.
> Once I'm there I clean my hone (a Belgian) with soap and water and
> dry it on a cotton towel. From there I continue to hone dry until I
> reach the fineness of edge I want.
>
> The consistency of the slurry I use is not as thick as mud per se but
> it's definitely thicker than water. Experimentation is the only way I
> know of that will allow a person to know what slurry consistency they
> can work best with. I personally am not good at using a slurry as a
> final polishing method but others here are probably much more
> successful using it that way and I hope they can offer their
> experience here as well. Hope that helps.
>
> Regards,
> EL
>
>
> --- In straightrazorplace@yahoogroups.com, "novice_7"
> wrote:
> >
> > ok this may be a stupid question but i'll ask anyway. for those of
> you
> > in the group who hone with a slurry (either as you hone or created
> > prior to). what is the consistency? i've seen the Norbert Schick
> video
> > and he seems to create a slurry thats like mud. is the consistency
> to
> > aim for or does it vary from hone to hone?
> >
> > Paul
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

You normally need a much more agressive hone for kitchen cutlery.  You
could hone forever and not get an edge on a dull kitchen knife.

John Crowley




--- In straightrazorplace@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel Partner" <dp@...>
wrote:
>
> I am inclined to tell my daughter not to use her husband's straight
razor hone (one of Tilly's Lithides) for her kitchen knife. How about
you? If so, tell me why.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

thanks for the replies, including El and Tony. i'll have to refine my
honing technique...again! LOL


Paul

--- In straightrazorplace@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn" <adjustme69@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi Paul,
>
> I like to use a heave slurry on both the Coticule and the Escher.
Not
> like mud, but thick. I usually limit the number of strokes to 10 on
> carbon blades, 15 on SS and up to 30 on Damascus.
>
> Have fun.
>
> Lynn
>
> --- In straightrazorplace@yahoogroups.com, "novice_7" <waldnerj@>
> wrote:
> >
> > ok this may be a stupid question but i'll ask anyway. for those
of you
> > in the group who hone with a slurry (either as you hone or
created
> > prior to). what is the consistency? i've seen the Norbert Schick
video
> > and he seems to create a slurry thats like mud. is the
consistency to
> > aim for or does it vary from hone to hone?
> >
> > Paul
> >
>

I was told by a gentleman at Thiers Issard that they use kerosene (naptha to the
French) as it clears away the slurry faster. It their opinion (I was told) they
felt the small metal/stone particles (swarf) could possibly deflect the fine
edge in the final steps of honing.
This would kind of match what El's practice sounds like to me. Use a slurry
early on for fast cutting as you have both the garnet in the stones surface as
well as the garnet suspended in the slurry doing the cutting. One the heavy work
is done cleaning the stone would remove any slurry and swarf leaving only a fine
hard surface for the final stage.
I have blades honed by both Lynn and El and can say both of these guys know
their stuff.
I wonder if this method is what accounts for Thiers Issard razors generally
feeling sharper right out of the box. The latest Dovos I have bought seemed far
sharper to me than before. Any will take arm hairs off right from the box. My
last Fromms and Timors were no where near that sharp unless I did serious work
on them. The latest Dovos have been a charm to hone.
Tony

--
Tony Miller
The Heirloom Razor Strop Co.
www.thewellshavedgentleman.com
443-717-3969


-------------- Original message --------------
From: "EL" <elbolicious@...>

> Hi Paul,
>
> When I use a slurry I use it in a rapid sharpening process where I
> know I've got to do a little work to take a razor down to an edge.
> Once I'm there I clean my hone (a Belgian) with soap and water and
> dry it on a cotton towel. From there I continue to hone dry until I
> reach the fineness of edge I want.
>
> The consistency of the slurry I use is not as thick as mud per se but
> it's definitely thicker than water. Experimentation is the only way I
> know of that will allow a person to know what slurry consistency they
> can work best with. I personally am not good at using a slurry as a
> final polishing method but others here are probably much more
> successful using it that way and I hope they can offer their
> experience here as well. Hope that helps.
>
> Regards,
> EL
>
>
> --- In straightrazorplace@yahoogroups.com, "novice_7"
> wrote:
> >
> > ok this may be a stupid question but i'll ask anyway. for those of
> you
> > in the group who hone with a slurry (either as you hone or created
> > prior to). what is the consistency? i've seen the Norbert Schick
> video
> > and he seems to create a slurry thats like mud. is the consistency
> to
> > aim for or does it vary from hone to hone?
> >
> > Paul
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi Paul,

I like to use a heave slurry on both the Coticule and the Escher. Not
like mud, but thick. I usually limit the number of strokes to 10 on
carbon blades, 15 on SS and up to 30 on Damascus.

Have fun.

Lynn

--- In straightrazorplace@yahoogroups.com, "novice_7" <waldnerj@...>
wrote:
>
> ok this may be a stupid question but i'll ask anyway. for those of you
> in the group who hone with a slurry (either as you hone or created
> prior to). what is the consistency? i've seen the Norbert Schick video
> and he seems to create a slurry thats like mud. is the consistency to
> aim for or does it vary from hone to hone?
>
> Paul
>

Hi Paul,

When I use a slurry I use it in a rapid sharpening process where I
know I've got to do a little work to take a razor down to an edge.
Once I'm there I clean my hone (a Belgian) with soap and water and
dry it on a cotton towel. From there I continue to hone dry until I
reach the fineness of edge I want.

The consistency of the slurry I use is not as thick as mud per se but
it's definitely thicker than water. Experimentation is the only way I
know of that will allow a person to know what slurry consistency they
can work best with. I personally am not good at using a slurry as a
final polishing method but others here are probably much more
successful using it that way and I hope they can offer their
experience here as well. Hope that helps.

Regards,
EL


--- In straightrazorplace@yahoogroups.com, "novice_7" <waldnerj@...>
wrote:
>
> ok this may be a stupid question but i'll ask anyway. for those of
you
> in the group who hone with a slurry (either as you hone or created
> prior to). what is the consistency? i've seen the Norbert Schick
video
> and he seems to create a slurry thats like mud. is the consistency
to
> aim for or does it vary from hone to hone?
>
> Paul
>

Hello Daniel,

In my experience the edge a barber hone will produce is far too
delicate for a kitchen knife. It will be blunted rather quickly
against the cutting board. I would advise one of those motorized chef
mates sharpeners to keep the kitchen knives keen. It does a wonderful
job of putting a lasting edge on a good knife. Hope that helps.

Regards,
EL


--- In straightrazorplace@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel Partner" <dp@...>
wrote:
>
> I am inclined to tell my daughter not to use her husband's straight
razor hone (one of Tilly's Lithides) for her kitchen knife. How about
you? If so, tell me why.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

I am inclined to tell my daughter not to use her husband's straight razor hone
(one of Tilly's Lithides) for her kitchen knife. How about you? If so, tell me
why.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

ok this may be a stupid question but i'll ask anyway. for those of you
in the group who hone with a slurry (either as you hone or created
prior to). what is the consistency? i've seen the Norbert Schick video
and he seems to create a slurry thats like mud. is the consistency to
aim for or does it vary from hone to hone?

Paul

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Yesterday I was trying to find info on a "dry shave" product that
caused a big debate a while back.  I came across a really nice article
that included information on the different types of badger hair and
comparing it to boar hair and synthetic hair.

I can't find it now but what stuck out in my mind is how the tip of
the hair on the badger "splays out" wildly.  The article says this
acts as a stop gap. It absorbs the water and acts as an insulator.
This allows the badger to stay warm and dry even when his hair is
soaking wet.  As a brush it absorbs water heavily at the end and
retains the heat from the warm lather better than other brushes.  This
is why badger hair was most preferred on brushes.

The article compared boars hair as a fair second. stating that the
ends of the hair doesn't 'splay out' as much.  It stated that boars
hair was much preferred over synthetic brushes of any kind.

The article did say that the animals were NOT mistreated or killed for
their hair.  About 3 times a year they "shear" them.  The rest of the
time they pamper them and feed them very well so their hair grows back
full and lush.

The article said the badger's "winter hair" was the absolute best for
shaving brushes, followed by summer hair, then trailing was boars hair
and synthetics were considered essentially worthless.

Just thought I'd share that.  I wish I had bookmarked the article.  I
am still trying to find it again. :(