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[Straight Razor Place] Re: Comparison of DE to a Straight Razor


I can agree with you on that:-)


--- In straightrazorplace@yahoogroups.com, Phil Runyan <nighthawk_51301@...>
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> I've noticed that some razors consistently shave better than others, but since
I am getting quite a bit more proficient at establishing the bevel on the hones
and finishing on the correct strops, the gap in shave quality between razors has
been declining considerably.� I deliberately set myself up with a wide variety
of sizes and manufacturers so that I can isolate the good from the bad and get
used to the shaving technique across the spectrum of blade sizes and grinds.
>
> I think�the cliche', 'practice makes perfect' is a big factor in play here
as well.
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> Kinda like a good golfer can pick up any ol' club and make it do what he needs
it to.
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> :o)
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> ________________________________
> From: Phillip White <philwhite777@...>
> To: straightrazorplace@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 8:22:37 PM
> Subject: [Straight Razor Place] Re: Comparison of DE to a Straight Razor
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> I guess it could be but one thing I've learned is every razor is unique even
if they are the same brand and model. One may shave well and be everything you
could expect and the other is crap. You just never know until you get it:-)
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> --- In straightrazorplace@ yahoogroups. com, Phil Runyan <nighthawk_51301@
...> wrote:
> >
> > That's funny, I have a Dovo Special #1616, it is a lower end Dovo, well I've
had problems with it.� No matter how sharp I get it, no�matter how perfect
the edge looks under the scope and its stropped to perfection, it still shaves
like crap.� Would this be a problem with the steel?
> >
> > Phil in WY
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> > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > From: Blake Shiver <blake.shiver@ ...>
> > To: straightrazorplace@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 12:25:48 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Straight Razor Place] Comparison of DE to a Straight Razor
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> > Not sure it this will help at all, but I used to have the same problem when
> > shaving with my Dovo carbon steel razor. I would have Lynn sharpen it to
> > perfection and the shave would still be rough and patchy (and it would pull
> > a lot on my beard). I ended up trading the Dovo carbon in for a Dovo
> > stainless steel razor and it shaves smooth as a baby's butt! I never really
> > found out if the shaving contrast was a result of different razor material
> > or overall differences in razor quality. Dovo's seem to be uniformly decent
> > razors so I can only assume that blade material was the culprit.
> > Any thoughts?
> >
> > -Blake
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 2:09 PM, Robert <rob08@schlackman. net> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > I am new to straight razor shaving (3 failed shaves in) but have shaved
> > > with a safety razor for a year. My whiskers are really hard and I use
> > > preshave oil and col conk to soften them up a bit. My question is what
> > > should I expect the straight razor to cut like compared to a safety razor
> > > given an optimal edge? With the safety razor I put no pressure on the
blade
> > > and it cuts my hair without any pulling. The straight razor is grabbing
and
> > > leaving a lot of hair behind. Should a straight razor cut as smoothly as
the
> > > safety razor. Oh, I picked up a small Solingen off ebay and have watched
> > > many videos on stropping technique. The strop is new and untreated, canvas
> > > on the back. I've tried 10 passed on the canvas side and 40 on the leather
> > > side. Feels sharp, and quite dull after the shave. I have waited 24 hours
> > > before trying between shaves and only strop before the shave. Also I am
> > > being very carefull about keeping the strop pulled tight and putting no
> > > pressure on the blade.
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I am new to straight razor shaving (3 failed shaves in) but have shaved with a safety razor for a year. My whiskers are really hard and I use preshave oil and...
Robert
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Jun 16, 2009
6:09 pm

It should be as good or better than a DE but your razor obviously needs to be honed. I would send it off to Lynn at the straight razor place and he can get it...
Phillip White
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Jun 16, 2009
6:23 pm

A straight shouldn't pull, and shouldn't leave anything behind. There are only a couple of reasons one would, and the prime suspect is the sharpness of the...
Andrew Curl
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Jun 16, 2009
6:26 pm

Not sure it this will help at all, but I used to have the same problem when shaving with my Dovo carbon steel razor. I would have Lynn sharpen it to ...
Blake Shiver
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Jun 16, 2009
6:26 pm

Thanks for the input. As I suspected the razor probably needs to be sharpened. Before I do that I will write back with the exact razor that I have. It could...
Robert
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Jun 16, 2009
7:24 pm

Here ya go Robert - http://straightrazorplace.com/classifieds/showproduct.php/product/1632/cat/4 It's on the regular forum which you might enjoy. It has tons...
Phillip White
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Jun 16, 2009
7:32 pm

The razor is an old Solingen forge Otto Busch, sold under the name Weltmeister. It's smaller than the usual straight razor and was never used. Is it junk?! ...
Robert
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Jun 16, 2009
7:49 pm

Nope it's a good razor and depending on condition well worth the $20 to sharpen it up. Phil...
Phillip White
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Jun 16, 2009
7:51 pm

Great. It's in perfect condition. Looks like it was made yesterday. I'll send it off to get sharpened tomorrow. Rob...
Robert
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Jun 16, 2009
7:54 pm

That's funny, I have a Dovo Special #1616, it is a lower end Dovo, well I've had problems with it.  No matter how sharp I get it, no matter how perfect the...
Phil Runyan
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Jun 17, 2009
1:55 am

Hi Phil, The Dovo razor that was giving me trouble is a Dovo Black Star. It is at the lower end of the Dovo razors but I have no reason to suspect that its...
Blake Shiver
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Jun 17, 2009
2:19 am

what examples of 'high carbon' are you referring to (any more aside from Maestro Livi)?  I have 5 silver steel TI's but I don't think they qualify in the...
Phil Runyan
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Jun 17, 2009
2:32 am

Most of the better known German brands are pretty much high carbon content. Of course the old W&B had India Silver Steel as well as some other English ones and...
Phillip White
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Jun 17, 2009
4:27 am

I only have two straights: a Dovo Black Steel (high carbon) and a Dovo Micarta SS (Stainless Steel). I probably need to try shaving with a higher quality...
Blake Shiver
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Jun 17, 2009
1:05 pm

Well my beard is really tough also so if the razor isn't really sharp it's not going to be fun. I actually have had better luck with carbon steel razors than...
Phillip White
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Jun 17, 2009
2:50 am

I guess it could be but one thing I've learned is every razor is unique even if they are the same brand and model. One may shave well and be everything you...
Phillip White
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Jun 17, 2009
2:22 am

I've noticed that some razors consistently shave better than others, but since I am getting quite a bit more proficient at establishing the bevel on the hones...
Phil Runyan
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Jun 17, 2009
2:45 am

I can agree with you on that:-)...
Phillip White
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Jun 17, 2009
2:51 am

The germans were a bit twitchy about manufacturing, in that under their law, any blade marked "Solingen" is not just finished there, it is forged there. This...
Andrew Curl
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Jun 16, 2009
8:28 pm

It just takes time and patience which is well rewarded in the end. Don't expect not to nick yourself some because you will but that first shave when things...
Phillip White
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Jun 16, 2009
10:06 pm

Silver steel -is- a high carbon steel, about 1% carbon, in fact- that's high! I'ts also got about 1/2% manganese and the same of chromium thrown in. This is...
Andrew Curl
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Jun 17, 2009
4:38 am

I'll take your word for it:-) I guess that's why the UK had such a reputation for fine razors etc....
Phillip White
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Jun 17, 2009
1:32 pm

a lot of attention has been brought to the razor, but nothing has been said about your technique. I have a fairly heavy beard and I have to soak with a hot...
steve Faison
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Jun 18, 2009
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