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Re: [Straight Razor Place] Comparison of DE to a Straight Razor

Hi Phil,

The Dovo razor that was giving me trouble is a Dovo Black Star. It is
at the lower end of the Dovo razors but I have no reason to suspect that
its quality is significantly different than any other Dovo. I have just
been assuming that my beard responds better to stainless steel blades
than high carbon ones. This is actually an issue that I would like to
get cleared up because I have really been wanting to try a Maestro Livi
"new grind" razor but have been affraid to purchase because it is made
from high carbon steel! Have you (or anyone else on this thread) tried
any other razors that are made from high carbon steel and had better
results?

-Blake



On Tue, 2009-06-16 at 18:55 -0700, Phil Runyan wrote:
>
>
> That's funny, I have a Dovo Special #1616, it is a lower end Dovo,
> well I've had problems with it. No matter how sharp I get it,
> no matter how perfect the edge looks under the scope and its stropped
> to perfection, it still shaves like crap. Would this be a problem
> with the steel?
>
> Phil in WY
>
> ________________________________
> From: Blake Shiver <blake.shiver@...>
> To: straightrazorplace@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 12:25:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [Straight Razor Place] Comparison of DE to a Straight
> Razor
>
> Not sure it this will help at all, but I used to have the same problem
> when
> shaving with my Dovo carbon steel razor. I would have Lynn sharpen it
> to
> perfection and the shave would still be rough and patchy (and it would
> pull
> a lot on my beard). I ended up trading the Dovo carbon in for a Dovo
> stainless steel razor and it shaves smooth as a baby's butt! I never
> really
> found out if the shaving contrast was a result of different razor
> material
> or overall differences in razor quality. Dovo's seem to be uniformly
> decent
> razors so I can only assume that blade material was the culprit.
> Any thoughts?
>
> -Blake
>
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 2:09 PM, Robert <rob08@schlackman. net> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > I am new to straight razor shaving (3 failed shaves in) but have
> shaved
> > with a safety razor for a year. My whiskers are really hard and I
> use
> > preshave oil and col conk to soften them up a bit. My question is
> what
> > should I expect the straight razor to cut like compared to a safety
> razor
> > given an optimal edge? With the safety razor I put no pressure on
> the blade
> > and it cuts my hair without any pulling. The straight razor is
> grabbing and
> > leaving a lot of hair behind. Should a straight razor cut as
> smoothly as the
> > safety razor. Oh, I picked up a small Solingen off ebay and have
> watched
> > many videos on stropping technique. The strop is new and untreated,
> canvas
> > on the back. I've tried 10 passed on the canvas side and 40 on the
> leather
> > side. Feels sharp, and quite dull after the shave. I have waited 24
> hours
> > before trying between shaves and only strop before the shave. Also I
> am
> > being very carefull about keeping the strop pulled tight and putting
> no
> > pressure on the blade.
> >
> >
> >
>
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> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Blake Shiver




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I am new to straight razor shaving (3 failed shaves in) but have shaved with a safety razor for a year. My whiskers are really hard and I use preshave oil and...
Robert
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Jun 16, 2009
6:09 pm

It should be as good or better than a DE but your razor obviously needs to be honed. I would send it off to Lynn at the straight razor place and he can get it...
Phillip White
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Jun 16, 2009
6:23 pm

A straight shouldn't pull, and shouldn't leave anything behind. There are only a couple of reasons one would, and the prime suspect is the sharpness of the...
Andrew Curl
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Jun 16, 2009
6:26 pm

Not sure it this will help at all, but I used to have the same problem when shaving with my Dovo carbon steel razor. I would have Lynn sharpen it to ...
Blake Shiver
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Jun 16, 2009
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Thanks for the input. As I suspected the razor probably needs to be sharpened. Before I do that I will write back with the exact razor that I have. It could...
Robert
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Jun 16, 2009
7:24 pm

Here ya go Robert - http://straightrazorplace.com/classifieds/showproduct.php/product/1632/cat/4 It's on the regular forum which you might enjoy. It has tons...
Phillip White
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Jun 16, 2009
7:32 pm

The razor is an old Solingen forge Otto Busch, sold under the name Weltmeister. It's smaller than the usual straight razor and was never used. Is it junk?! ...
Robert
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Jun 16, 2009
7:49 pm

Nope it's a good razor and depending on condition well worth the $20 to sharpen it up. Phil...
Phillip White
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Jun 16, 2009
7:51 pm

Great. It's in perfect condition. Looks like it was made yesterday. I'll send it off to get sharpened tomorrow. Rob...
Robert
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Jun 16, 2009
7:54 pm

That's funny, I have a Dovo Special #1616, it is a lower end Dovo, well I've had problems with it.  No matter how sharp I get it, no matter how perfect the...
Phil Runyan
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Jun 17, 2009
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Hi Phil, The Dovo razor that was giving me trouble is a Dovo Black Star. It is at the lower end of the Dovo razors but I have no reason to suspect that its...
Blake Shiver
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Jun 17, 2009
2:19 am

what examples of 'high carbon' are you referring to (any more aside from Maestro Livi)?  I have 5 silver steel TI's but I don't think they qualify in the...
Phil Runyan
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Jun 17, 2009
2:32 am

Most of the better known German brands are pretty much high carbon content. Of course the old W&B had India Silver Steel as well as some other English ones and...
Phillip White
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Jun 17, 2009
4:27 am

I only have two straights: a Dovo Black Steel (high carbon) and a Dovo Micarta SS (Stainless Steel). I probably need to try shaving with a higher quality...
Blake Shiver
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Jun 17, 2009
1:05 pm

Well my beard is really tough also so if the razor isn't really sharp it's not going to be fun. I actually have had better luck with carbon steel razors than...
Phillip White
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Jun 17, 2009
2:50 am

I guess it could be but one thing I've learned is every razor is unique even if they are the same brand and model. One may shave well and be everything you...
Phillip White
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Jun 17, 2009
2:22 am

I've noticed that some razors consistently shave better than others, but since I am getting quite a bit more proficient at establishing the bevel on the hones...
Phil Runyan
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Jun 17, 2009
2:45 am

I can agree with you on that:-)...
Phillip White
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Jun 17, 2009
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The germans were a bit twitchy about manufacturing, in that under their law, any blade marked "Solingen" is not just finished there, it is forged there. This...
Andrew Curl
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Jun 16, 2009
8:28 pm

It just takes time and patience which is well rewarded in the end. Don't expect not to nick yourself some because you will but that first shave when things...
Phillip White
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Jun 16, 2009
10:06 pm

Silver steel -is- a high carbon steel, about 1% carbon, in fact- that's high! I'ts also got about 1/2% manganese and the same of chromium thrown in. This is...
Andrew Curl
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Jun 17, 2009
4:38 am

I'll take your word for it:-) I guess that's why the UK had such a reputation for fine razors etc....
Phillip White
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Jun 17, 2009
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a lot of attention has been brought to the razor, but nothing has been said about your technique. I have a fairly heavy beard and I have to soak with a hot...
steve Faison
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Jun 18, 2009
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