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ATC

had asked earlier and didn't receive a
response...does anyone know anything of the ATCs from Moncton and
Halifax who spoke with the pilots that night? Are they
working still? Is there an investigation into how they
handled the situation? What happens to them in these
cases?<br><br>Colleen






Mon Feb 1, 1999 4:15 pm

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o each his (or her) own as far as a memorial goes...I would respect any wishes. There are many ways one can give memorial to their loved ones, and I think it's...
colleenclare
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Feb 1, 1999
4:14 pm

had asked earlier and didn't receive a response...does anyone know anything of the ATCs from Moncton and Halifax who spoke with the pilots that night? Are they...
colleenclare
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Feb 1, 1999
4:15 pm

very copy of the transcript I look at makes no reference to metric. <br>They say 230 tonnes. <br>Perhaps SR uses metric. We do not....
aviator_UA
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Feb 1, 1999
4:19 pm

eceived some information from a friend which may be helpful. Actually, its a set of books, so Ill<br> just post some basic specs on your average MD11 passenger...
aviator_UA
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Feb 1, 1999
4:21 pm

am metric, not imperial, so I have no idea what the relationship between tonnes and pounds is. Can someone please tell me how many pounds there are in an...
Stuart_Allsop
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Feb 1, 1999
4:47 pm

ll be extra generous and split the difference with you. <br>10 minutes of dumping....
aviator_UA
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Feb 1, 1999
4:51 pm

umbers in perspective, <br>&gt; remember the crew reproted their gross weight<br>&gt; at 460.000 lbs."<br><br>Yeah, I saw that someone else on the CNN board...
Stuart_Allsop
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Feb 1, 1999
4:55 pm

s a ton not 2000lbs?? <br>If I hear someone say 230 tonnes, I immediately expect 230x2000<br>Thats all I meant....
aviator_UA
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Feb 1, 1999
5:37 pm

ell you what. Lets use just your numbers. <br>that is roughly 15 minutes of dumping correct? <br>If they had started the dump immediately, would they have made...
aviator_UA
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Feb 1, 1999
5:43 pm

ont forget, you yourself told us the gear could withstand more than the legal landing weight....
aviator_UA
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Feb 1, 1999
5:49 pm

t max landing weight the manual states <br>a roll out distance of under 7000ft. <br>That leaves us with over a thousand feet of runway and we still havent even...
aviator_UA
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Feb 1, 1999
6:25 pm

tuart, please dont misunderstand me. Yes, it would have been tight but what Im saying is that in my personal opinion, there was no excuse not to go for the ...
aviator_UA
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Feb 1, 1999
6:35 pm

arlier on, I remember someone posting something about an article in german. They had wondered if anyone knew how to translate it. My husband emailed me this ...
colleenclare
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Feb 1, 1999
6:44 pm

Investigators don't know for certain if fuel was dumped and then the valves closed or if problems aboard the jet kept the valves shut, preventing the crew from...
CharlotteOpie
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Feb 1, 1999
6:48 pm
BarbaraFetherolf
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Feb 1, 1999
6:54 pm

ts such a shame Barb. They needed to dump such a small amount to get down to the "legal" weight. <br>Im literally reading through almost a few hundred pages of...
aviator_UA
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Feb 1, 1999
7:34 pm

viator, OK, you want a definite answer on a concrete question. Let me rephrase your question: Was it do-able, in theory, to dump enough fuel to get down to ...
Stuart_Allsop
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Feb 1, 1999
7:36 pm

tuart I respect your opinion an I always read what you post because you post some very good ideas, however this time, I cant buy it. <br>In almost 200 pages of...
aviator_UA
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Feb 1, 1999
7:42 pm

viator, I don't know where you got your landing distance from, but that figure of 6,950 feet tells only a small fraction of the story. That number is for a...
Stuart_Allsop
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Feb 1, 1999
8:21 pm

viator, let's get this tons vs. tonnes confusion out the way for once and for all, so that there is no more distortion in the REAL numbers.<br><br>If, as you ...
Stuart_Allsop
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Feb 1, 1999
9:40 pm

o you think that maybe we should be looking at the possibility that there is something inherently wrong with the MD11 that these pilots may not have been able...
BarbaraFetherolf
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Feb 1, 1999
10:04 pm

arbara, I'm not sure that you could call it something wrong with the fuel dump system, but it does worry me that there is no manual backup for something as...
Stuart_Allsop
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Feb 1, 1999
10:31 pm

tuart you say "Barbara, I'm not sure that you could call it<br>something wrong with the fuel dump system, but it does worry me that there is no manual backup...
BarbaraFetherolf
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Feb 1, 1999
10:54 pm

hinking of you all today as always as you try to read these messages and take in all the information.Hang tough.Know that you are all in my thoughts and ...
mrobblee
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Feb 1, 1999
10:57 pm

he is right,less we forget!...
hrsar
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Feb 1, 1999
11:30 pm

received this information today about a Public Meeting on the Aspotogan Peninsula.<br>If anyone is interested in responding to this with their views, I would ...
am948cfa
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Feb 1, 1999
11:40 pm

m trying to find out how the crew in the AA MD11 returning to seattle decided to handle their emergency. This might tell us something....
aviator_UA
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Feb 2, 1999
12:16 am

m also praying that when they get these aircraft in for the wiring directive, something will show itself....
aviator_UA
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Feb 2, 1999
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aviator_UA
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Feb 2, 1999
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800x200 asphalt with Cat II ILS is impressive...
aviator_UA
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Feb 2, 1999
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