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Date: Sat Apr 19, 2008 4:54 am
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Vaccine Ingredients





Below is a list of ingredients in vaccines. (It is not exhaustive - there are
other chemicals not in the list.)

If you are tempted to assume that these poisons would only be in harmless
quantities in vaccines, note:

1) There is no safe level for some of these poisons, such as formaldehyde and
mercury, even if one of them was consumed or injected on its own.

2) Even if the quantity of any given ingredient was within a safe level,
remember that a large number of these are being taken in all at once, which can
lead to the accumulative toxicity being much higher.

3) Poisons such as formaldehyde and mercury are well known to have a sensitising
effect on the body, i.e. they cause increased susceptibility to any foreign
substance that it might encounter at the same time or in the future.

4) Even the manufacturers admit to a large list of adverse effects of vaccines,
including even death.

The resultant damage, including brain damage, from these toxins can vary from
mild enough not to be apparent, through to severe, in some cases death. You
cannot inject a living being with these poisons and expect there to be no
adverse effect at all. What varies, and varies greatly, is merely the degree of
damage. The reason for the large variation in this degree of damage include: 



great genetic variations in recipients, affecting susceptibility in general and
susceptibility to specific vaccines



variations within one recipient from one time to another (due to biorhythms,
other work the immune system is doing already fighting other infections, how
many vaccines have already been given, etc), and



variations between vaccine batches - there is an acknowledged weakness in the
area of controlling the levels of toxins in vaccines, resulting in some batches
being labelled "hot lots". (Sadly even this identification does not necessarily
result in recalls, but rather in distributing the "hot lot" as broadly as
possible, as revealed in a leaked letter from a pharmaceutical company.)



Post mortems on cot death babies indicate asphyxia, which can be due to the
level of poisons being just that little bit too high for these individuals’
immature immune systems to mount a defence of the strength and sustained period
of time required to deal with them. Adding to the difficulty in dealing with the
large load of poisons is the fact that these poisons interfere with the
activities of the immune system itself, and thus weaken its ability to eliminate
any poisons. In the younger babies the battle is more often lost within hours or
a few days from the injection. In the older babies they more often hold out
longer and only lose the battle after a few weeks or longer (J Pediatrics 1982).

For chemical profiles and definitions, visit http://www.scorecard.org/. 

Sources: EDF (Environmental Defense Fund) & MME (Mosby’s Medical
Encyclopaedia)

Formaldehyde:

(Used in vaccines as a tissue fixative)

Aust. National Research Council: Fewer than 20% but perhaps more than 10% of the
general population may be susceptible to formaldehyde and may react acutely at
any exposure level. More hazardous than most chemicals in 5 out of 12 ranking
systems, on at least 8 federal regulatory lists, ranked as one of the most
hazardous compounds (worst 10%) to ecosystems and human health (Environmental
Defense Fund). 

It is not safe at ANY level.

National Academy of Science:
There is no population threshold for irritation effects.

National Research Council:
Fewer than 20% but perhaps more than 10% of the general population may be
susceptible to formaldehyde and may react acutely at any exposure level.

Formaldehyde is oxidised to formic acid which leads to acidosis and nerve
damage. Acidosis can be described as a condition in which the acidity of the
body tissues and fluids is abnormally high. The liver and the kidneys may also
be damaged.

Other effects:

Eye; nasal; throat and pulmonary irritation; acute sense of smell; alters tissue
proteins; anaemia; antibodies formation; apathy; blindness; blood in urine;
blurred vision; body aches; bronchial spasms; bronchitis; burns nasal and
throat; cardiac impairment; palpitations and arrhythmias; central nervous system
depression; changes in higher cognitive functions; chemical sensitivity; chest
pains and tightness; chronic vaginitis; colds; coma; conjunctivitis;
constipation; convulsions; corneal erosion; cough; death; destruction of red
blood cells; depression; dermatitis; diarrhoea; difficulty concentrating;
disorientation; dizziness; ear aches; eczema; emotional upsets; ethmoid polyps;
fatigue; fecula bleeding; foetal asphyxiation (and they don’t know what could
cause SIDS?); flu-like or cold like illness; frequent urination with pain;
gastritis; gastrointestinal inflammation; headaches; haemolytic anaemia;
haemolytic haematuria; hoarseness; hyperactive airway disease; hyperactivity;
hypomenstrual syndrome; immune system sensitiser; impaired (short) attention
span; impaired capacity to attain attention; inability or difficulty swallowing;
inability to recall words and names; inconsistent IQ profiles; inflammatory
diseases of the reproductive organs; intestinal pain; intrinsic asthma;
irritability; jaundice; joint pain; aches and swelling; kidney pain; laryngeal
spasm; loss of memory; loss of sense of smell; loss of taste; malaise; menstrual
and testicular pain; menstrual irregularities; metallic taste; muscle spasms and
cramps; nasal congestions; crusting and mucosae inflammation; nausea;
nosebleeds; numbness and tingling of the forearms and finger tips; pale, clammy
skin; partial laryngeal paralysis; pneumonia; post nasal drip; pulmonary oedema;
reduced body temperature; retarded speech pattern; ringing or tingling in the
ear; schizophrenic-type symptoms; sensitivity to sound; shock; short term memory
loss; shortness of breath; skin lesions; sneezing; sore throat; spacey feeling;
speaking difficulty; sterility; swollen glands; tearing; thirst; tracheitis;
tracheobronchitis; vertigo; vomiting blood; vomiting; wheezing.

References; C. Wilson; Chronic Exposure and Human Health (1993), McFarland &
Company taken from Our Toxic Times Feb 1997 pgs 18 & 19.

Mercury:

(Used in vaccines as a preservative.)

Before you say, "But haven't they removed mercury from the vaccines on the
childhood vaccination schedule?" read this:
http://www.acnem.org/journal/23-2_september_2004/vaccines_and_mercury.htm

See this video filmed by the University of Calgary of an actual brain neuron -
watch what happens to it when it is exposed to (a low amount of) mercury:
http://commons.ucalgary.ca/mercury/ The following is a written article about
this video: http://unisci.com/stories/20011/0327013.htm

Mercury is the second most poisonous element known to man (next to uranium and
its derivatives). As illustrated in the above video, neurons are observed to
disintegrate in its presence. It has also been found to cause changes to
chromosomes.

The U.S. has known about the potential problems of thimerosal (compound in
vaccines that contains mercury) for many years. The World Health Organization
voiced concerns as far back as 1990. Mercury is a highly toxic element which
does not easily leave the body. Once ingested, injected, or inhaled, it stays
and accumulates. An infant can receive in one day’s doses of vaccines as much
as the absolute maximum set by the W.H.O. for 3 months of exposure, but it is
not safe at ANY level. 

Thimerosal is listed as a recognized developmental toxicant as well as a
suspected skin or sense organ toxicant by the Environmental Defense Fund1. The
following was taken from a website affiliated with the National Institutes for
Health2:

"Symptoms of exposure to this class of compounds includes aphthous, stomatitis,
catarrhal gingivitis, nausea, liquid stools, pain, liver disorder, injury to the
cardiovascular system and hematopoietic system, deafness and ataxia. Exposure
may be fatal. Headache, paresthesia of the tongue, lips, fingers and toes, other
non-specific dysfunctions, metallic taste, slight gastrointestinal disturbances,
excessive flatus and diarrhea may occur. Acute poisoning may cause
gastrointestinal irritation and renal failure. Early signs of severe poisoning
include fine tremors of extended hands, loss of side vision, slight loss of
coordination in the eyes, speech, writing and gait, inability to stand or carry
out voluntary movements, occasional muscle atrophy and flexure contractures,
generalized myoclonic movements, difficulty understanding ordinary speech,
irritability and bad temper progressing to mania, stupor, coma, mental
retardation in children, skin irritation, blisters and dermatitis. Other
symptoms include chorea, athetosis, tremors, convulsions, pain and numbness in
the extremities, nephritis, salivation, loosening of the teeth, blue line on the
gums, anxiety, mental depression, insomnia, hallucinations and central nervous
system effects. Exposure may also cause irritation of the eyes, mucous membranes
and upper respiratory tract."

References:
1.) Environmental Defense Fund - http://www.scorecard.com/
2.) National Institutes for Health -
http://ntp-db.niehs.nih.gov/NTP_Reports/NTP_Chem_H&S/NTP_Chem5/Radian54-64-8.txt

Here is an excerpt from "The Vaccine Guide: Making an Informed Choice" (Randall
Neustaedter, North Atlantic Books, 1996):

"Sensitivities to thimerosal in vaccines apparently develop as a result of
previous vaccinations (Förström et al., 1980). Even the minute amount of
thimerosal used in vaccines (.1 to .01%) can specifically stimulate the immune
system and cause sensitization (Aberer, 1991). Mercury is a violent poison with
many toxic effects. The toxicity of mercury varies depending on the form in
which the element appears. Metallic mercury has different effects than inorganic
or organic mercury compounds. However, major differences in toxicity are not
expected among the different compounds within the inorganic group of mercury
salts (Clement, 1992)...

...The neurologic toxicity symptoms caused by mercury compounds have a delayed
onset after exposure (Bakir et al, 1973), which may have significance for the
suspected long-term neurologic symptoms of learning disabilities and behaviour
disorders associated with vaccines. (For full references, refer to book.)"




Antifreeze:

(This is in the polio vaccine.) Classed as "Very Toxic Material". May lead to
kidney, liver, blood and central nervous system (CNS) disorders. Harmful or
fatal if swallowed. Effects include behavioural disorders, drowsiness, vomiting,
diarrhoea, visual disturbances, thirst, convulsions, cyanosis, and rapid heart
rate, CNS stimulation, depression, cardiopulmonary effects, kidney disorders.
May also lead to liver and blood disorders. Produces reproductive and
developmental effects in experimental animals. 
(Source: http://www.pennzoil-quakerstate.com/MSDS/014/014978.pdf)




Aluminium:


EDF Suspected - cardiovascular or blood toxicant, neurotoxicant, respiratory
toxicant. Implicated as a cause of brain damage; suspected factor in Alzheimer's
Disease, dementia, convulsions and comas. More hazardous than most chemicals in
2 out of 6 ranking systems. On at least 2 federal regulatory lists. (This
element is not toxic when only in trace amounts, indeed at such levels is even
beneficial to the body, however a trace amount is extremely minute - the level
in vaccines is enormously higher, at around 0.5%)




2-Phenoxyethanol:


EDF Suspected - developmental toxicant, reproductive toxicant. Metabolic poison
(i.e. interferes with the metabolism in all cells). Capable of disabling the
immune system's primary response. Contains phenol (see below).




Phenol:


EDF Suspected - cardiovascular or blood toxicant aka Carbolic Acid,
developmental toxicant, gastrointestinal or liver toxicant, kidney toxicant,
neurotoxicant, respiratory toxicant, skin or sense organ toxicant. More
hazardous than most chemicals in 3 out of 10 ranking systems. On at least 8
federal regulatory lists




Methanol:


Described as a volatile, flammable and poisonous liquid alcohol. In industry, it
is used as a solvent and an antifreeze compound in fuel. In the body it is
metabolised to formaldehyde (see above). Whilst it can be found naturally in the
pectin that is present in some common fruits, it is only in very small
quantities in fruit and does not pose a danger to the body in that form. 




Borax 
(sodium tetraborate decahydrate):



Traditionally used as a pesticide, including ant killer. Suspected
cardiovascular or blood toxicant, endocrine toxicant, gastrointestinal or liver
toxicant and neurological toxicant. Found to cause reproductive damage and
reduced fertility in a study on rats.




Glutaraldehyde:


Poisonous if ingested (would be worse if injected). Causes birth defects in
experimental animals.




MSG  
(monosodium glutamate):



In a 1995 report by the Federation of American Societies for Experimental
Biology (FASEB) two groups of people were defined as intolerant of MSG - those
who eat large quantities of MSG (which is in many processed foods as a flavour
enhancer - # 621) and those with “severe, poorly controlled asthma”. (Can
you guess now why sensitivity to MSG is so common?) According to this report
which was contracted by the FDA the following are symptoms that they found in
reaction to MSG.




 


A. Burning sensation in the back of the neck, forearms and chest
B. Numbness in the back of the neck, radiating to the arms and back
C. Tingling, warmth, and weakness in the face, temples, upper back, neck and
arms
D. Facial pressure or tightness
E. Chest pain
F. Headache
G. Nausea
I. Rapid heartbeat
J. Bronchospasm (difficulty breathing) in MSG-intolerant people with asthma
K. Drowsiness
L. Weakness
An FDA web page called "FDA and Monosodium Glutamate (MSG)" states "Injections
of glutamate in laboratory animals have resulted in damage to nerve cells in the
brain."

In 1978 MSG was removed from baby food and other baby products for infants less
than one year of age because the American Academy of Pediatrics and the National
Academy of Sciences expressed concerns.


An FDA web page called "FDA and Monosodium Glutamate (MSG)" states "Injections
of glutamate in laboratory animals have resulted in damage to nerve cells in the
brain."

In 1978 MSG was removed from baby food and other baby products for infants less
than one year of age because the American Academy of Pediatrics and the National
Academy of Sciences expressed concerns.




Sulfate and phosphate compounds


(to one or more of which your child may have already developed a severe allergy
from past vaccinations.)





Ammonium Sulfate:



EDF Suspected - gastrointestinal or liver toxicant, neurotoxicant, respiratory
toxicant.





Gentamicin Sulfate:



an antibiotic.





Neomycin Sulfate:



an antibiotic. Interferes with Vitamin B6 absorption. An error in the uptake of
B6 can cause a rare form of epilepsy and mental retardation.





Tri(n)butylphosphate:



EDF Suspected - kidney toxicant, neurotoxicant. More hazardous than most
chemicals in 2 out of 3 ranking systems. On at least 1 federal regulatory list.





Polymyxin B:



another antibiotic




Polysorbate 20 / 80:


EDF Suspected - skin or sense organ toxicant. Known to cause cancer in animals.




Sorbitol:


EDF Suspected - gastrointestinal or liver toxicant. Less hazardous than most
chemicals in 1 ranking system.




Polyribosylribitol:


a component of the Hib bacterium.




Beta-Propiolactone:


EDF Recognized - carcinogen, EDF Suspected - gastrointestinal or liver toxicant,
respiratory toxicant, skin or sense organ toxicant. More hazardous than most
chemicals in 3 out of 3 ranking systems. On at least 5 federal regulatory lists.
Ranked as one of the most hazardous compounds (worst 10%) to humans.




Amphotericin B:


MME definition - "a drug used to treat fungus infections. Known allergy to this
drug prohibits use. Side effects include blood clots, blood defects, kidney
problems, nausea and fever. When used on the skin, allergic reactions can
occur."




Animal organ tissue and blood:


Animal cell lines need to be used to culture the viruses in vaccines, so this
material is included in the formulation that is injected. Other than when this
protein material is digested (i.e. consumed and broken down into its component
amino acids, etc, before absorption), it is unusable and toxic to the body. It
can also contain many animal viruses (see Animal Viruses).

Animals used include monkey (kidney), cow (heart), calf (serum), chicken (embryo
and egg), duck (egg), pig (blood), sheep (blood), dog (kidney), horse (blood),
rabbit (brain), guinea pig, etc. 




Aborted human foetal tissue and human albumin:


This is something you might like to consider if you are against abortion. Also
from a health point of view tissue from another human (not just animals) is
still foreign and therefore toxic to the body.





Large foreign proteins:



In addition to the above accompanying (protein) material, there are large
proteins that are deliberately included, used for such purposes as adjuvants
(i.e. to help get an immune "response"). Egg album and gelatin (or gelatine,
obtained from selected pieces of calf and cattle skins, de-mineralized cattle
bones and pork skin) are in several vaccines. Casein (milk protein) is in the
triple antigen, i.e. DPT vaccine. As explained above, when injected, proteins
are toxic to the body. Hence the immune system "response" - it is stressed by
this invasion, which results in sensitisation - it becomes sensitive to these
substances, not immune to them.

Is it any wonder, then, that allergies to these substances are now so common (in
the case of milk, resulting in the relatively recent emergence of milk
alternatives such as soy and rice "milk"s)?




Latex:


This is in the hepatitis B vaccine which is given routinely to health workers.
Have you heard about the problem of the high occurrence of latex allergy among
nurses? How do you think they became sensitised to latex? Allergic reactions can
be life-threatening. Hepatitis B vaccine is now routinely given to newborn
babies in many countries, including Australia and the US.




Animal Viruses:


Some of these can be particularly alien to the human body. The most frequently
documented and publicised example is the monkey virus SV40. This is harmless in
monkeys, but inject it into a human and it can cause cancer – in the brain
(tumours), bone (e.g. multiple myeloma), lungs (mesothelioma) and lymphoid
tissue (lymphoma). It has appeared in people born in the last 20 years (The
Journal of Infectious Diseases, Sep 1999;180:884-887), long after the
manufacturer claimed to have "cleaned up" the polio vaccine in which it was
found. Such cases include the late Alexander Horwin, both of whose parents
tested negative for SV40, therefore recent cases cannot just be blamed on
inheritance from parents who received the vaccine (see www.ouralexander.org).




Human Viruses:


The viruses against which the vaccine is supposed to protect are frequently said
to be "killed", "inactivated" or "attenuated". This is a myth. The main method
used to inactivate viruses is treatment with formaldehyde, whose effectiveness
is only limited, and even then only temporary - once the brew is injected into
the body and disperses, it is documented in orthodox medical literature that
these "killed" viruses can revert to their former virulence. (References for
this are available.)

Please note also that whilst the included viruses, bacteria etc against which
the vaccine is supposed to protect are claimed to be in "very small doses",
the  quantities are quite high enough for the diseases to occur, as they can do
quite severely, occasionally even leading to death (e.g. deaths reported
recently in the Lancet from yellow fever contracted from that vaccine). Indeed a
susceptible person can succumb to infection when exposed to only a minute dose
(particularly when directly injected), while a sufficiently healthy person will
not succumb even when exposed, naturally that is, to an enormous dose. It is not
the pathogen, but the interaction between pathogen and host that causes disease
to appear (Intervirology 1993).

If the symptoms of a disease do not occur after a vaccine, it cannot be assumed
that the person is not or will not be harmed by that pathogen. Most disease
symptoms are actually the visible signs of the body's effort to defend itself
against the pathogen, and with injections, important defences are bypassed.




Bacteria and the toxins they produce:


The human blood is supposed to be, and traditionally was, sterile - no bacteria
(or other organisms) present in it. That is not the case any more. Naturally
this has a weakening effect on the immune system, apart from sometimes leading
to severe bacterial infections.




Mycoplasma:


These are microscopic organisms lacking rigid cell walls and considered to be
the smallest free-living organisms. Many are pathogenic and one species is a
cause of mycoplasma pneumonia which interestingly is noted to occur "in children
and young adults" (Mosby's Medical Dictionary). So, are these only in vaccines
by mistake as contaminants? No, believe it or not, they are deliberately
included as adjuvants, i.e. to increase the immune system's "response" to the
vaccine.




Genetically modified yeast:


This is in the hepatitis B vaccine. Given the controversy over the ingestion of
genetically modified foods, how much less safe, do you think, is the injection
of them, particularly considering what follows below?




Foreign DNA:


This DNA is from such organisms as various animals, animal/human viruses, fungi
and bacteria. It has been documented that the injecting foreign DNA can cause
it or some of it to be incorporated into the recipient's DNA (see 'Immunisation'
Against Diseases for Children). Remember, nature has not experienced such a
direct invasion as this before, so can you be sure that it would have developed
a way to protect your body against it?





 

 







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Vaccine Ingredients





Below is a list of ingredients in vaccines. (It is not exhaustive - there are
other chemicals not in the list.)

If you are tempted to assume that these poisons would only be in harmless
quantities in vaccines, note:

1) There is no safe level for some of these poisons, such as formaldehyde and
mercury, even if one of them was consumed or injected on its own.

2) Even if the quantity of any given ingredient was within a safe level,
remember that a large number of these are being taken in all at once, which can
lead to the accumulative toxicity being much higher.

3) Poisons such as formaldehyde and mercury are well known to have a sensitising
effect on the body, i.e. they cause increased susceptibility to any foreign
substance that it might encounter at the same time or in the future.

4) Even the manufacturers admit to a large list of adverse effects of vaccines,
including even death.

The resultant damage, including brain damage, from these toxins can vary from
mild enough not to be apparent, through to severe, in some cases death. You
cannot inject a living being with these poisons and expect there to be no
adverse effect at all. What varies, and varies greatly, is merely the degree of
damage. The reason for the large variation in this degree of damage include: 



great genetic variations in recipients, affecting susceptibility in general and
susceptibility to specific vaccines



variations within one recipient from one time to another (due to biorhythms,
other work the immune system is doing already fighting other infections, how
many vaccines have already been given, etc), and



variations between vaccine batches - there is an acknowledged weakness in the
area of controlling the levels of toxins in vaccines, resulting in some batches
being labelled "hot lots". (Sadly even this identification does not necessarily
result in recalls, but rather in distributing the "hot lot" as broadly as
possible, as revealed in a leaked letter from a pharmaceutical company.)



Post mortems on cot death babies indicate asphyxia, which can be due to the
level of poisons being just that little bit too high for these individuals’
immature immune systems to mount a defence of the strength and sustained period
of time required to deal with them. Adding to the difficulty in dealing with the
large load of poisons is the fact that these poisons interfere with the
activities of the immune system itself, and thus weaken its ability to eliminate
any poisons. In the younger babies the battle is more often lost within hours or
a few days from the injection. In the older babies they more often hold out
longer and only lose the battle after a few weeks or longer (J Pediatrics 1982).

For chemical profiles and definitions, visit http://www.scorecard.org/. 

Sources: EDF (Environmental Defense Fund) & MME (Mosby’s Medical
Encyclopaedia)

Formaldehyde:

(Used in vaccines as a tissue fixative)

Aust. National Research Council: Fewer than 20% but perhaps more than 10% of the
general population may be susceptible to formaldehyde and may react acutely at
any exposure level. More hazardous than most chemicals in 5 out of 12 ranking
systems, on at least 8 federal regulatory lists, ranked as one of the most
hazardous compounds (worst 10%) to ecosystems and human health (Environmental
Defense Fund). 

It is not safe at ANY level.

National Academy of Science:
There is no population threshold for irritation effects.

National Research Council:
Fewer than 20% but perhaps more than 10% of the general population may be
susceptible to formaldehyde and may react acutely at any exposure level.

Formaldehyde is oxidised to formic acid which leads to acidosis and nerve
damage. Acidosis can be described as a condition in which the acidity of the
body tissues and fluids is abnormally high. The liver and the kidneys may also
be damaged.

Other effects:

Eye; nasal; throat and pulmonary irritation; acute sense of smell; alters tissue
proteins; anaemia; antibodies formation; apathy; blindness; blood in urine;
blurred vision; body aches; bronchial spasms; bronchitis; burns nasal and
throat; cardiac impairment; palpitations and arrhythmias; central nervous system
depression; changes in higher cognitive functions; chemical sensitivity; chest
pains and tightness; chronic vaginitis; colds; coma; conjunctivitis;
constipation; convulsions; corneal erosion; cough; death; destruction of red
blood cells; depression; dermatitis; diarrhoea; difficulty concentrating;
disorientation; dizziness; ear aches; eczema; emotional upsets; ethmoid polyps;
fatigue; fecula bleeding; foetal asphyxiation (and they don’t know what could
cause SIDS?); flu-like or cold like illness; frequent urination with pain;
gastritis; gastrointestinal inflammation; headaches; haemolytic anaemia;
haemolytic haematuria; hoarseness; hyperactive airway disease; hyperactivity;
hypomenstrual syndrome; immune system sensitiser; impaired (short) attention
span; impaired capacity to attain attention; inability or difficulty swallowing;
inability to recall words and names; inconsistent IQ profiles; inflammatory
diseases of the reproductive organs; intestinal pain; intrinsic asthma;
irritability; jaundice; joint pain; aches and swelling; kidney pain; laryngeal
spasm; loss of memory; loss of sense of smell; loss of taste; malaise; menstrual
and testicular pain; menstrual irregularities; metallic taste; muscle spasms and
cramps; nasal congestions; crusting and mucosae inflammation; nausea;
nosebleeds; numbness and tingling of the forearms and finger tips; pale, clammy
skin; partial laryngeal paralysis; pneumonia; post nasal drip; pulmonary oedema;
reduced body temperature; retarded speech pattern; ringing or tingling in the
ear; schizophrenic-type symptoms; sensitivity to sound; shock; short term memory
loss; shortness of breath; skin lesions; sneezing; sore throat; spacey feeling;
speaking difficulty; sterility; swollen glands; tearing; thirst; tracheitis;
tracheobronchitis; vertigo; vomiting blood; vomiting; wheezing.

References; C. Wilson; Chronic Exposure and Human Health (1993), McFarland &
Company taken from Our Toxic Times Feb 1997 pgs 18 & 19.

Mercury:

(Used in vaccines as a preservative.)

Before you say, "But haven't they removed mercury from the vaccines on the
childhood vaccination schedule?" read this:
http://www.acnem.org/journal/23-2_september_2004/vaccines_and_mercury.htm

See this video filmed by the University of Calgary of an actual brain neuron -
watch what happens to it when it is exposed to (a low amount of) mercury:
http://commons.ucalgary.ca/mercury/ The following is a written article about
this video: http://unisci.com/stories/20011/0327013.htm

Mercury is the second most poisonous element known to man (next to uranium and
its derivatives). As illustrated in the above video, neurons are observed to
disintegrate in its presence. It has also been found to cause changes to
chromosomes.

The U.S. has known about the potential problems of thimerosal (compound in
vaccines that contains mercury) for many years. The World Health Organization
voiced concerns as far back as 1990. Mercury is a highly toxic element which
does not easily leave the body. Once ingested, injected, or inhaled, it stays
and accumulates. An infant can receive in one day’s doses of vaccines as much
as the absolute maximum set by the W.H.O. for 3 months of exposure, but it is
not safe at ANY level. 

Thimerosal is listed as a recognized developmental toxicant as well as a
suspected skin or sense organ toxicant by the Environmental Defense Fund1. The
following was taken from a website affiliated with the National Institutes for
Health2:

"Symptoms of exposure to this class of compounds includes aphthous, stomatitis,
catarrhal gingivitis, nausea, liquid stools, pain, liver disorder, injury to the
cardiovascular system and hematopoietic system, deafness and ataxia. Exposure
may be fatal. Headache, paresthesia of the tongue, lips, fingers and toes, other
non-specific dysfunctions, metallic taste, slight gastrointestinal disturbances,
excessive flatus and diarrhea may occur. Acute poisoning may cause
gastrointestinal irritation and renal failure. Early signs of severe poisoning
include fine tremors of extended hands, loss of side vision, slight loss of
coordination in the eyes, speech, writing and gait, inability to stand or carry
out voluntary movements, occasional muscle atrophy and flexure contractures,
generalized myoclonic movements, difficulty understanding ordinary speech,
irritability and bad temper progressing to mania, stupor, coma, mental
retardation in children, skin irritation, blisters and dermatitis. Other
symptoms include chorea, athetosis, tremors, convulsions, pain and numbness in
the extremities, nephritis, salivation, loosening of the teeth, blue line on the
gums, anxiety, mental depression, insomnia, hallucinations and central nervous
system effects. Exposure may also cause irritation of the eyes, mucous membranes
and upper respiratory tract."

References:
1.) Environmental Defense Fund - http://www.scorecard.com/
2.) National Institutes for Health -
http://ntp-db.niehs.nih.gov/NTP_Reports/NTP_Chem_H&S/NTP_Chem5/Radian54-64-8.txt

Here is an excerpt from "The Vaccine Guide: Making an Informed Choice" (Randall
Neustaedter, North Atlantic Books, 1996):

"Sensitivities to thimerosal in vaccines apparently develop as a result of
previous vaccinations (Förström et al., 1980). Even the minute amount of
thimerosal used in vaccines (.1 to .01%) can specifically stimulate the immune
system and cause sensitization (Aberer, 1991). Mercury is a violent poison with
many toxic effects. The toxicity of mercury varies depending on the form in
which the element appears. Metallic mercury has different effects than inorganic
or organic mercury compounds. However, major differences in toxicity are not
expected among the different compounds within the inorganic group of mercury
salts (Clement, 1992)...

...The neurologic toxicity symptoms caused by mercury compounds have a delayed
onset after exposure (Bakir et al, 1973), which may have significance for the
suspected long-term neurologic symptoms of learning disabilities and behaviour
disorders associated with vaccines. (For full references, refer to book.)"




Antifreeze:

(This is in the polio vaccine.) Classed as "Very Toxic Material". May lead to
kidney, liver, blood and central nervous system (CNS) disorders. Harmful or
fatal if swallowed. Effects include behavioural disorders, drowsiness, vomiting,
diarrhoea, visual disturbances, thirst, convulsions, cyanosis, and rapid heart
rate, CNS stimulation, depression, cardiopulmonary effects, kidney disorders.
May also lead to liver and blood disorders. Produces reproductive and
developmental effects in experimental animals. 
(Source: http://www.pennzoil-quakerstate.com/MSDS/014/014978.pdf)




Aluminium:


EDF Suspected - cardiovascular or blood toxicant, neurotoxicant, respiratory
toxicant. Implicated as a cause of brain damage; suspected factor in Alzheimer's
Disease, dementia, convulsions and comas. More hazardous than most chemicals in
2 out of 6 ranking systems. On at least 2 federal regulatory lists. (This
element is not toxic when only in trace amounts, indeed at such levels is even
beneficial to the body, however a trace amount is extremely minute - the level
in vaccines is enormously higher, at around 0.5%)




2-Phenoxyethanol:


EDF Suspected - developmental toxicant, reproductive toxicant. Metabolic poison
(i.e. interferes with the metabolism in all cells). Capable of disabling the
immune system's primary response. Contains phenol (see below).




Phenol:


EDF Suspected - cardiovascular or blood toxicant aka Carbolic Acid,
developmental toxicant, gastrointestinal or liver toxicant, kidney toxicant,
neurotoxicant, respiratory toxicant, skin or sense organ toxicant. More
hazardous than most chemicals in 3 out of 10 ranking systems. On at least 8
federal regulatory lists




Methanol:


Described as a volatile, flammable and poisonous liquid alcohol. In industry, it
is used as a solvent and an antifreeze compound in fuel. In the body it is
metabolised to formaldehyde (see above). Whilst it can be found naturally in the
pectin that is present in some common fruits, it is only in very small
quantities in fruit and does not pose a danger to the body in that form. 




Borax 
(sodium tetraborate decahydrate):



Traditionally used as a pesticide, including ant killer. Suspected
cardiovascular or blood toxicant, endocrine toxicant, gastrointestinal or liver
toxicant and neurological toxicant. Found to cause reproductive damage and
reduced fertility in a study on rats.




Glutaraldehyde:


Poisonous if ingested (would be worse if injected). Causes birth defects in
experimental animals.




MSG  
(monosodium glutamate):



In a 1995 report by the Federation of American Societies for Experimental
Biology (FASEB) two groups of people were defined as intolerant of MSG - those
who eat large quantities of MSG (which is in many processed foods as a flavour
enhancer - # 621) and those with “severe, poorly controlled asthma”. (Can
you guess now why sensitivity to MSG is so common?) According to this report
which was contracted by the FDA the following are symptoms that they found in
reaction to MSG.




 


A. Burning sensation in the back of the neck, forearms and chest
B. Numbness in the back of the neck, radiating to the arms and back
C. Tingling, warmth, and weakness in the face, temples, upper back, neck and
arms
D. Facial pressure or tightness
E. Chest pain
F. Headache
G. Nausea
I. Rapid heartbeat
J. Bronchospasm (difficulty breathing) in MSG-intolerant people with asthma
K. Drowsiness
L. Weakness
An FDA web page called "FDA and Monosodium Glutamate (MSG)" states "Injections
of glutamate in laboratory animals have resulted in damage to nerve cells in the
brain."

In 1978 MSG was removed from baby food and other baby products for infants less
than one year of age because the American Academy of Pediatrics and the National
Academy of Sciences expressed concerns.


An FDA web page called "FDA and Monosodium Glutamate (MSG)" states "Injections
of glutamate in laboratory animals have resulted in damage to nerve cells in the
brain."

In 1978 MSG was removed from baby food and other baby products for infants less
than one year of age because the American Academy of Pediatrics and the National
Academy of Sciences expressed concerns.




Sulfate and phosphate compounds


(to one or more of which your child may have already developed a severe allergy
from past vaccinations.)





Ammonium Sulfate:



EDF Suspected - gastrointestinal or liver toxicant, neurotoxicant, respiratory
toxicant.





Gentamicin Sulfate:



an antibiotic.





Neomycin Sulfate:



an antibiotic. Interferes with Vitamin B6 absorption. An error in the uptake of
B6 can cause a rare form of epilepsy and mental retardation.





Tri(n)butylphosphate:



EDF Suspected - kidney toxicant, neurotoxicant. More hazardous than most
chemicals in 2 out of 3 ranking systems. On at least 1 federal regulatory list.





Polymyxin B:



another antibiotic




Polysorbate 20 / 80:


EDF Suspected - skin or sense organ toxicant. Known to cause cancer in animals.




Sorbitol:


EDF Suspected - gastrointestinal or liver toxicant. Less hazardous than most
chemicals in 1 ranking system.




Polyribosylribitol:


a component of the Hib bacterium.




Beta-Propiolactone:


EDF Recognized - carcinogen, EDF Suspected - gastrointestinal or liver toxicant,
respiratory toxicant, skin or sense organ toxicant. More hazardous than most
chemicals in 3 out of 3 ranking systems. On at least 5 federal regulatory lists.
Ranked as one of the most hazardous compounds (worst 10%) to humans.




Amphotericin B:


MME definition - "a drug used to treat fungus infections. Known allergy to this
drug prohibits use. Side effects include blood clots, blood defects, kidney
problems, nausea and fever. When used on the skin, allergic reactions can
occur."




Animal organ tissue and blood:


Animal cell lines need to be used to culture the viruses in vaccines, so this
material is included in the formulation that is injected. Other than when this
protein material is digested (i.e. consumed and broken down into its component
amino acids, etc, before absorption), it is unusable and toxic to the body. It
can also contain many animal viruses (see Animal Viruses).

Animals used include monkey (kidney), cow (heart), calf (serum), chicken (embryo
and egg), duck (egg), pig (blood), sheep (blood), dog (kidney), horse (blood),
rabbit (brain), guinea pig, etc. 




Aborted human foetal tissue and human albumin:


This is something you might like to consider if you are against abortion. Also
from a health point of view tissue from another human (not just animals) is
still foreign and therefore toxic to the body.





Large foreign proteins:



In addition to the above accompanying (protein) material, there are large
proteins that are deliberately included, used for such purposes as adjuvants
(i.e. to help get an immune "response"). Egg album and gelatin (or gelatine,
obtained from selected pieces of calf and cattle skins, de-mineralized cattle
bones and pork skin) are in several vaccines. Casein (milk protein) is in the
triple antigen, i.e. DPT vaccine. As explained above, when injected, proteins
are toxic to the body. Hence the immune system "response" - it is stressed by
this invasion, which results in sensitisation - it becomes sensitive to these
substances, not immune to them.

Is it any wonder, then, that allergies to these substances are now so common (in
the case of milk, resulting in the relatively recent emergence of milk
alternatives such as soy and rice "milk"s)?




Latex:


This is in the hepatitis B vaccine which is given routinely to health workers.
Have you heard about the problem of the high occurrence of latex allergy among
nurses? How do you think they became sensitised to latex? Allergic reactions can
be life-threatening. Hepatitis B vaccine is now routinely given to newborn
babies in many countries, including Australia and the US.




Animal Viruses:


Some of these can be particularly alien to the human body. The most frequently
documented and publicised example is the monkey virus SV40. This is harmless in
monkeys, but inject it into a human and it can cause cancer – in the brain
(tumours), bone (e.g. multiple myeloma), lungs (mesothelioma) and lymphoid
tissue (lymphoma). It has appeared in people born in the last 20 years (The
Journal of Infectious Diseases, Sep 1999;180:884-887), long after the
manufacturer claimed to have "cleaned up" the polio vaccine in which it was
found. Such cases include the late Alexander Horwin, both of whose parents
tested negative for SV40, therefore recent cases cannot just be blamed on
inheritance from parents who received the vaccine (see www.ouralexander.org).




Human Viruses:


The viruses against which the vaccine is supposed to protect are frequently said
to be "killed", "inactivated" or "attenuated". This is a myth. The main method
used to inactivate viruses is treatment with formaldehyde, whose effectiveness
is only limited, and even then only temporary - once the brew is injected into
the body and disperses, it is documented in orthodox medical literature that
these "killed" viruses can revert to their former virulence. (References for
this are available.)

Please note also that whilst the included viruses, bacteria etc against which
the vaccine is supposed to protect are claimed to be in "very small doses",
the  quantities are quite high enough for the diseases to occur, as they can do
quite severely, occasionally even leading to death (e.g. deaths reported
recently in the Lancet from yellow fever contracted from that vaccine). Indeed a
susceptible person can succumb to infection when exposed to only a minute dose
(particularly when directly injected), while a sufficiently healthy person will
not succumb even when exposed, naturally that is, to an enormous dose. It is not
the pathogen, but the interaction between pathogen and host that causes disease
to appear (Intervirology 1993).

If the symptoms of a disease do not occur after a vaccine, it cannot be assumed
that the person is not or will not be harmed by that pathogen. Most disease
symptoms are actually the visible signs of the body's effort to defend itself
against the pathogen, and with injections, important defences are bypassed.




Bacteria and the toxins they produce:


The human blood is supposed to be, and traditionally was, sterile - no bacteria
(or other organisms) present in it. That is not the case any more. Naturally
this has a weakening effect on the immune system, apart from sometimes leading
to severe bacterial infections.




Mycoplasma:


These are microscopic organisms lacking rigid cell walls and considered to be
the smallest free-living organisms. Many are pathogenic and one species is a
cause of mycoplasma pneumonia which interestingly is noted to occur "in children
and young adults" (Mosby's Medical Dictionary). So, are these only in vaccines
by mistake as contaminants? No, believe it or not, they are deliberately
included as adjuvants, i.e. to increase the immune system's "response" to the
vaccine.




Genetically modified yeast:


This is in the hepatitis B vaccine. Given the controversy over the ingestion of
genetically modified foods, how much less safe, do you think, is the injection
of them, particularly considering what follows below?




Foreign DNA:


This DNA is from such organisms as various animals, animal/human viruses, fungi
and bacteria. It has been documented that the injecting foreign DNA can cause
it or some of it to be incorporated into the recipient's DNA (see 'Immunisation'
Against Diseases for Children). Remember, nature has not experienced such a
direct invasion as this before, so can you be sure that it would have developed
a way to protect your body against it?





 

 









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-----Original Message-----
From: Bryan <bryanfriedley@...>
To: TheIlluminati@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 12:12 pm
Subject: [TheIlluminati] Thimerosal Definite Cause Of Autism










Thimerosal Definite Cause Of Autism

By Evelyn Pringle
www.scoop.co.nz
January 29, 2007
Miamisburg Ohio
To what degree of scientific certainty can we prove that current epidemic of
autism was caused by the mercury-based preservative, thimerosal, in childhood
vaccines?

In response to this question, David Ayoub , MD, told Independent Media TV, ''I
can state that the certainty of the science supporting mercury as a major cause
of autism is probably more overpowering than the science behind any other
disease process that I studied dating back to medical school.''

"I think a disease that effects more individuals than AIDS or cancer, in
previously normal infants and children," he states, "has created a sense of
urgency amongst researchers."

According to Ayoub, "A growing number of experimental, epidemiological and
biochemical research, has unequivocally shown that mercury is directly linked to
the development of autism spectrum disorders and is significantly toxic to the
gastrointestinal, immunological, metabolic and neurobiological systems in
children."
http://jahtruth.net/heal.htm 


"The science of causality is known and understood down to the manner in which
mercury impairs the neural pathways of attention," he adds, "I really don't see
the need for more research to prove causality." He believes the focus should be
"directed towards methods to remove mercury from the body and repairing those
biochemical systems that are injured by mercury."

Ayoub is the Director of the Prairie Collaborative for Immunization, an
organization that is self-funded, which aids organizations, journalists, and
legislators obtain accurate information to assist their work. He is also the
author of the report, "Pregnancy and the Myth of Influenza Vaccination-Is it
safe, is it effective, is it necessary? What the CDC documents reveal."

Vaccines With Thimerosal

When asked what vaccines still contain the mercury-based, thimerosal, Ayoub
said, "The major culprit today is the influenza vaccine." About 80% of flu
vaccines contain as much as 25 micrograms of mercury per dose. Since the EPA has
set a limit of 0.1 mcg/kg (1 kg =2.2 lbs), Ayoub warns, everyone who receives
the vaccine will be overdosed.

He explained that in 1999, "the Public Health Service (including the CDC and
FDA), the American Academy of Pediatrics, and vaccine manufacturers agreed that
thimerosal levels in vaccines should be reduced or eliminated."

However, he adds, "Contradicting its own policy, the CDC then increased mercury
exposure to the fetus and infant by allowing the inoculation of pregnant women
and young infants with the mercury-containing influenza vaccine."

On May 28, 2004, the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practice of the CDC
released its annual report with recommendations for the prevention of influenza.
The report included pregnant women amongst those who should receive the flu
vaccine, even though the report noted only a minimal benefit from the vaccine in
pregnant women:

"Researchers estimate that an average of 1-2 hospitalizations can be prevented
for every 1,000 pregnant women vaccinated" (1, page 10)

In fact, for the 2003-04 flu season, the CDC reported "only 3 to 14% of those
who got vaccinated were protected against the flu." It seems overly aggressive,
Ayoub maintains, for the CDC to recommend that all pregnant women be vaccinated
when, in fact, scientific data to date shows only marginal benefits and the only
documented benefit seems to be fewer hospitalizations, not fewer morbidities or
mortalities.

The benefit of influenza vaccination during pregnancy becomes even more
questionable when considering the resulting risks to unborn infants. According
to the ACIP, the safety of influenza vaccination is established by the following
research:

One study of influenza vaccination of 2,000 pregnant women demonstrated no
adverse fetal effects associated with influenza vaccine."

However, according to Ayoub, "In the April 12, 2002 MMWR, this same statement
was followed by the caveat "additional data are needed to confirm the safety of
vaccination during pregnancy." The comment was then dropped from the CDC's 2004
version of the report, but no new safety data was cited.

This solitary reference cited to establish influenza vaccine safety was
co-authored by researchers at Boston University in 1973, but Ayoub advises that,
"Upon closer inspection ... the study appears to have very little to do with
influenza vaccine safety, but rather that of polio vaccination safety during
pregnancy."

It is inexplicable, Ayoub says, that the ACIP would cite a paper in support of
its conclusion of influenza vaccine safety while the Institute of Medicine
rejected the same paper on the basis of the flawed analysis of polio vaccine
safety.

Few doctors realize that most flu vaccines contain 25 micrograms of mercury per
dose. Both the EPA and FDA's allowable daily exposure limits are 0.1 microgram
per kg, meaning that recipients of a flu vaccine must weigh at least 550 pounds
to meet federal exposure guidelines.

Therefore, by injecting the mother, the fetus would receive a dose of mercury
that exceeds the federal limits by several hundred-fold. Furthermore, Ayoub
adds, all federal guidelines are based upon studies of exposure tolerances in
adults, not a fetus.

He questions why the CDC is so certain that ethylmercury can be safely injected
into children or pregnant women, when the FDA and EPA have stated that ingestion
of methylmercury can have harmful effects on the fetus, with warnings such as:

"some fish and shellfish contain higher levels of mercury that may harm an
unborn baby or young child's developing nervous system. . . . Therefore, the
Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)
are advising women who may become pregnant, pregnant women, nursing mothers, and
young children to avoid some types of fish and eat fish and shellfish that are
lower in mercury. . . While it is true that the primary danger from
methylmercury in fish is to the developing nervous system of the unborn child,
it is prudent for nursing mothers and young children not to eat these fish as
well."

More recent studies have detailed the life-long damage of mercury to the brains
of unborn children. For instance, on Feb 28, 2005, the Associated Press
reported, "Lower IQ levels linked to mercury exposure in the womb costs the
United States $8.7 billion a year in lost earnings potential, according to a
study released Monday by researchers at a New York hospital."

The Mount Sinai Center for Children's Health and the Environment combined a
number of previous studies to determine hundreds of thousands of babies are born
every year with lower IQ associated with mercury exposure, according to AP.

Lead researcher and pediatician, Leonard Trasande, reports that annually,
between 316,588 and 637,233 infants are born with umbilical cord blood mecury
levels linked to IQ loss.

As an example, Trasande said each year, about 4% of babies are with blood
mercury levels between 7.13 and 15 micrograms per liter. That level of mercury
causes an IQ loss of 1.6 points, the researchers concluded.

A 1.6 point drop in IQ could cost a person more than $31,000 in potential
earnings over a lifetime, the study calculated, due to missed educational
opportunities or jobs.

Manufacturers of the flu vaccine themselves, include package inserts that admit
adequate studies have not been conducted on this vaccine. For example, the
Fluzone insert stated:

"Animal reproduction studies have not been conducted with Influenza Virus
Vaccine. It is not known whether Influenza Virus Vaccine can cause fetal harm
when administered to a pregnant woman or can affect reproduction capacity."

Considering the rapid growth of autism, and other related neurodevelopmental
disorders, and the number of reports documenting the causal relationship to
mercury-based preservatives, Ayoub advises, "influenza vaccines should not be
administered to pregnant women, and perhaps other high-risk groups, especially
young children."

Why Would FDA & CDC Approve Mercury-Based Vaccines?

Ayoub believes that the CDC and FDA embrace marginal research and unsupported
policies because of conflicts of interests. It may come as a surprise to most
physicians, he explains, "that the CDC has a built-in conflict of interest with
regards to its dual role in vaccine policy." One limb of the CDC that oversees
vaccine safety has a budget of approximately $30 million, while the limb that
promotes vaccine usage (ACIP and NIP) has a $1 billion budget, he says.

The CDC and FDA policy decisions are made through physician advisory panels
whose members often have financial relationships with the very same
pharmaceutical companies that they are supposed to regulate.

For example, during a congressional hearing on potential conflicts of interests
at the FDA, it was revealed that 60% of the advisory members who voted to
approve the poisonous rotavirus vaccine had financial ties to the drug companies
manufacturing the vaccine. The committee also found that 50% of the CDC members
were tied to the rotavirus makers.

However, according to Ayoub, the CDC and FDA do not have exclusive rights in
coddling the industry. An investigation of doctors involved in co-authoring
forty-four different Clinical Practice Guidelines for drug companies found:

85% of guideline authors have some sort of relationships with drug companies,
and they are often not disclosed

38% of respondents said they had served as employees or consultants for drug
companies; 58% received research money

59% had links with drug companies whose medications were considered in the
particular guidelines they authored, almost all cases predating the guideline
creation process

These numbers may be even greater, as only 52% of authors responded

"Most clinicians would be surprised by these revelations which challenge the
blanket trust of a healthcare governance with uncomfortably close ties to the
pharmaceutical industry," Ayoub says.

Available Treatment For Autism

When asked what treatments are available for autism, Ayoub said "The buzz these
days is chelation," but there is no short answer to this. Suffice it to say,
there are 2 ways to get mercury out of the body - one is pull it out directly by
chelation agents."

The 2 top chelation people in the world are Gary Gordon, MD, and Rashid Buttar,
MD, he adds.

Chelation agents such as DMPS and DTPA, are given orally, by IV, and recently
with transdermal as a cream. According to Ayoub, the agents essentially bind
free blood or loosely bound heavy metal agents, and eliminate them through stool
and urine. They lower the total body burden and allow for natural redistribution
from brain to blood for further removal. Ayoub claims side effects are uncommon,
and the process is far safer than a vaccine.

The other method of removing mercury from the body is through a variety of
biomedical therapies, all dietary or supplemental, "most of which act to jumps
start the bodies own internal mercury detoxification pathways," Ayoub explains,
but "the science here is very sophisticated," he added.

However, unfortunately, "many parents read about a diet or supplement, try one
or two therapies on their own and fail," he says, and that "treatment is very
dependent upon the experience of the health care provider, critically so," he
advises.
http://jahtruth.net/heal.htm 


Why The Constant Denial?

Ayoub was asked why government agencies and the pharmaceutical industry, are
working so hard to keep the truth about the mercury-autism link hidden. He says
it is a long story, but the main reason is because if they admitted guilt, it
would mean the government agencies, drug companies and medical organizations,
"have taken part in the largest iatrogenic epidemic known to man."

The fallout over admission of causality would be unprecedented, Ayoub adds. The
lost confidence in American medicine would likely cause people to turn to
alternative methods of medicine, and a rise in deeper investigation might reveal
the truth about other suppressions related to cancer therapy, hypertension Rx,
or Atherosclerosis.

Ayoub told Independent Media, "This is really the tip of the iceberg and I see a
waterfall effect."

*************
(Evelyn Pringle is a columnist with Independent Media TV and an investigative
journalist focused on exposing corruption in government)

Ayoub spoke at the AutismOne conference in Chicago in 2004, and will appear at
the conference again in May, 2005. His CD-ROM titled, "Science and Politics of
Vaccine-Induced Autism," contains resource materials and was distributed at the
DAN! conference in LA last fall. David M Ayoub MD, The Prairie Collaborative for
Immunization Safety Email Raypoke@...

Original story can be found here:
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0503/S00089.htm









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#3690 From: dale selgrath <dselgrath@...>
Date: Tue Mar 25, 2008 5:43 pm
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--- Sam <belldron@...> wrote:

> I do not use anything with Acetaminophen in it but
> do use a lot of
> other meds. for my MS and pain caused by MS.  These
> meds have not
> changed in the past 4 years and are unlikly to
> change.  If this is a
> interaction with CS and my meds I guess that CS will
> have to go.  I'm
> going to try the CS again and see if the problem
> reoccures.  My dentist
> hygenist was impressed with the lack of tartar on
> the last cleaning and
> I attribute that to the CS.  It was also excellant
> with stopping a
> pimple (yikes, at my age!!).
> Sam
>
>



      
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#3689 From: "Sam" <belldron@...>
Date: Tue Mar 25, 2008 5:07 pm
Subject: Re: ulcers on my tongue
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Well I tried rinsing my mouth with CS yesterday and with a couple hours
my mouth was sore again.  This seems to be wicked stuff for my mouth.
Guess I will not use it that way anymore.
Sam

#3688 From: "Sam" <belldron@...>
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2008 5:07 pm
Subject: Re: ulcers on my tongue
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I do not use anything with Acetaminophen in it but do use a lot of
other meds. for my MS and pain caused by MS.  These meds have not
changed in the past 4 years and are unlikly to change.  If this is a
interaction with CS and my meds I guess that CS will have to go.  I'm
going to try the CS again and see if the problem reoccures.  My dentist
hygenist was impressed with the lack of tartar on the last cleaning and
I attribute that to the CS.  It was also excellant with stopping a
pimple (yikes, at my age!!).
Sam

#3687 From: "Vicky" <vmm45123@...>
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2008 7:38 am
Subject: Re: ulcers on my tongue
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--- In silverdatawebsite@yahoogroups.com, "Cherie Lynnae"
<cherielynnae@...> wrote:
>
> Don't ask me why I know this.. but are either of you using anything
> with Acetaminophen in it (Tylenol)?
>
> I had the same problems, but was taking Excedrin plus and found out I
> had an allergy to Acetaminophen and from what I figured with how CS
> works by enhancing the oxygen flow in the blood stream, it was making
> my Excedrin like a double dose and it was causing the blisters as if
> it was poisoning me.  I would get blisters on my legs and feet, in
> between my fingers and toes, and badly inside my mouth and on my
> tongue.
>
> I stopped all products with Acetaminophen in it and never again had
> problems with CS again.
>
> Never know what interacts with what drugs they have on the market,
> these days, so when you do CS you have to be aware of other
> medications you are taking and be concerned of how CS might interact
> with it, like it does with salts or other minerals.
>
> Could be CS and Acetaminophen interact well.  Or could be your body
> built up a tolerance to something else and using CS brings it out
> that way.  But it sounds to me like an allergic reaction, and I cant
> see CS being the culprit.
>
> Cherie
>
Every now and again I take panadein or aspelgin for migranes but thats
the only medication I take and thats only every now and again

#3686 From: "Cherie Lynnae" <cherielynnae@...>
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2008 6:56 am
Subject: Re: ulcers on my tongue
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Don't ask me why I know this.. but are either of you using anything
with Acetaminophen in it (Tylenol)?

I had the same problems, but was taking Excedrin plus and found out I
had an allergy to Acetaminophen and from what I figured with how CS
works by enhancing the oxygen flow in the blood stream, it was making
my Excedrin like a double dose and it was causing the blisters as if
it was poisoning me.  I would get blisters on my legs and feet, in
between my fingers and toes, and badly inside my mouth and on my
tongue.

I stopped all products with Acetaminophen in it and never again had
problems with CS again.

Never know what interacts with what drugs they have on the market,
these days, so when you do CS you have to be aware of other
medications you are taking and be concerned of how CS might interact
with it, like it does with salts or other minerals.

Could be CS and Acetaminophen interact well.  Or could be your body
built up a tolerance to something else and using CS brings it out
that way.  But it sounds to me like an allergic reaction, and I cant
see CS being the culprit.

Cherie

#3685 From: "Sam" <belldron@...>
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2008 6:23 am
Subject: Re: Microwave?
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If you are concerned about the microwave you could try to warm the CS
by placing a bottle of it in a pan of hot water, just like warming a
baby bottle.
Sam
--- In silverdatawebsite@yahoogroups.com, Beth Toraason <sharpa2@...>
wrote:
>
> Will slightly microwaving CS change its properties?  I need to have
it a
> bit warmer than room temperature to use in my waterpik as my teeth
are
> very sensitive.
> TIA, Beth T
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

#3684 From: "Sam" <belldron@...>
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2008 6:21 am
Subject: [ silvermedicine.org ] Re: ulcers on my tongue
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> Hi Everyone!
>
> For both of you who have experienced these mouth conditions, may I
ask if
> you get enough vitamin C in your diets?
I believe that I do have enough vitamin C in my diet.  I did take
extra vitamin C midway though these sores as I was in contact with
someone who had a cold.  I didn't get the cold and there was no
change in the sores on my tongue until I stopped using the CS.
Thanks
Sam

>
> Best Regards,
>
> Jason
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sam" <belldron@...>
> To: <silverdatawebsite@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 7:48 PM
> Subject: [ silvermedicine.org ] Re: ulcers on my tongue
>
>
>
> > I have been using cs for only 2 months and have had tiny sore
white
> > spots on my tongue.  I was using to swish around my mouth, hold
in my
> > mouth for 3 to 5 minutes and then swallowing.  I have stopped
using it
> > for a week and the sores have gone.  Just yesterday I was telling
my
> > spouse that I think the sores were from CS and wondering whats up
with
> > that???? I use a sivergen and make it to aprox. 12 ppm.  All
equipment
> > is keep clean and I use distilled water also.
> > Any suggestions from the others on this site would be appreciated.
> > Sam
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#3683 From: "Jason" <research@...>
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2008 4:21 am
Subject: Re: [ silvermedicine.org ] Microwave?
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Hi Beth,

Some people have reason to believe that microwaves shouldn't be used at
all...

That said, if you are not one of those individuals, then microwaving CS JUST
to warm it will NOT likely render it useless.

Best Regards,

Jason

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Subject: [ silvermedicine.org ] Microwave?


> Will slightly microwaving CS change its properties?  I need to have it a
> bit warmer than room temperature to use in my waterpik as my teeth are
> very sensitive.
> TIA, Beth T
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#3682 From: "Jason" <research@...>
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2008 4:17 am
Subject: Re: [ silvermedicine.org ] Re: ulcers on my tongue
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Hi Everyone!

For both of you who have experienced these mouth conditions, may I ask if
you get enough vitamin C in your diets?

Best Regards,

Jason


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Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 7:48 PM
Subject: [ silvermedicine.org ] Re: ulcers on my tongue



> I have been using cs for only 2 months and have had tiny sore white
> spots on my tongue.  I was using to swish around my mouth, hold in my
> mouth for 3 to 5 minutes and then swallowing.  I have stopped using it
> for a week and the sores have gone.  Just yesterday I was telling my
> spouse that I think the sores were from CS and wondering whats up with
> that???? I use a sivergen and make it to aprox. 12 ppm.  All equipment
> is keep clean and I use distilled water also.
> Any suggestions from the others on this site would be appreciated.
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#3681 From: "Vicky" <vmm45123@...>
Date: Sun Mar 23, 2008 4:33 am
Subject: Re: ulcers on my tongue
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--- In silverdatawebsite@yahoogroups.com, "Sam" <belldron@...> wrote:
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> --- In silverdatawebsite@yahoogroups.com, "Vicky" <vmm45123@> wrote:
> >
> > I have been using cs now for about 10 months, its been working well
> > and has cleared quite a few problems but I've noticed for the last 2
> > months when I drink it, its been giving me ulcers on my tongue. Anyone
> > have any suggestions. I use pure water, I clean the rods properly each
> > time and the jar so I dont know why it does this.
> >
> I have been using cs for only 2 months and have had tiny sore white
> spots on my tongue.  I was using to swish around my mouth, hold in my
> mouth for 3 to 5 minutes and then swallowing.  I have stopped using it
> for a week and the sores have gone.  Just yesterday I was telling my
> spouse that I think the sores were from CS and wondering whats up with
> that???? I use a sivergen and make it to aprox. 12 ppm.  All equipment
> is keep clean and I use distilled water also.
> Any suggestions from the others on this site would be appreciated.
> Sam
>
my cs varies from 8 ppm to 15ppm and still the same thing happens and
I get them even when I don't hold in my mouth but there were worse ie
larger and sorer when I held in my mouth for a while or under my
tongue. I find now if I just drink it and only every night I get them
less but still in search of an answer on this from anyone 'in the know'

#3680 From: "Sam" <belldron@...>
Date: Sun Mar 23, 2008 2:48 am
Subject: Re: ulcers on my tongue
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--- In silverdatawebsite@yahoogroups.com, "Vicky" <vmm45123@...> wrote:
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> I have been using cs now for about 10 months, its been working well
> and has cleared quite a few problems but I've noticed for the last 2
> months when I drink it, its been giving me ulcers on my tongue. Anyone
> have any suggestions. I use pure water, I clean the rods properly each
> time and the jar so I dont know why it does this.
>
I have been using cs for only 2 months and have had tiny sore white
spots on my tongue.  I was using to swish around my mouth, hold in my
mouth for 3 to 5 minutes and then swallowing.  I have stopped using it
for a week and the sores have gone.  Just yesterday I was telling my
spouse that I think the sores were from CS and wondering whats up with
that???? I use a sivergen and make it to aprox. 12 ppm.  All equipment
is keep clean and I use distilled water also.
Any suggestions from the others on this site would be appreciated.
Sam

#3679 From: Beth Toraason <sharpa2@...>
Date: Fri Mar 21, 2008 1:36 pm
Subject: Microwave?
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Will slightly microwaving CS change its properties?  I need to have it a
bit warmer than room temperature to use in my waterpik as my teeth are
very sensitive.
TIA, Beth T


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#3678 From: "Vicky" <vmm45123@...>
Date: Fri Mar 21, 2008 11:17 am
Subject: ulcers on my tongue
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I have been using cs now for about 10 months, its been working well
and has cleared quite a few problems but I've noticed for the last 2
months when I drink it, its been giving me ulcers on my tongue. Anyone
have any suggestions. I use pure water, I clean the rods properly each
time and the jar so I dont know why it does this.

#3677 From: "heyquanta" <gpfsr@...>
Date: Tue Mar 18, 2008 4:23 am
Subject: Ionic silver ppm
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When my mA meter reads 1.5mA is when I quit cooking my ionic silver.
I jump my current limiting diode, '.47mA', with an on off switch to get
that reading. I'm also using polarity switching set at 8sec and 10sec.
Anyway, my silver is reading 2.5ppm when it is finished. Should I let
it cook longer or is 2.5ppm ok? Using a Hanna PWT...
Also, I get no tyndall effect using a laser pointer.
Thanks

#3676 From: Ben Kanis <kanisben@...>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2008 3:11 am
Subject: Re: [ silvermedicine.org ] CS storage
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I prefer clear glass. when I am going to use it, I
measure ppm and if nescesarry I boost.
Plastics often give taste that I do not want
Benka
--- Artielle <tlhough@...> wrote:

> I'll try again (lost the first attempt to
> cyberspace)
> Can I store CS in clear glass? I also have some in a
> plastic spray
> bottle I bought from walmart. I think someone said
> this negates it's
> properties. I have been using it to disinfect, but
> it may not be
> working. I really need to know for sure. Thanks,
> Artielle
>
>



      
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#3675 From: "Diane Mackey" <dmackey00@...>
Date: Mon Feb 25, 2008 2:30 am
Subject: Re: [ silvermedicine.org ] CS storage
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I put some of my CS is hydrogen peroxide bottles and add a trigger sprayer.
I am not aware of it losing any properties this way.

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I'll try again (lost the first attempt to cyberspace)
Can I store CS in clear glass? I also have some in a plastic spray
bottle I bought from walmart. I think someone said this negates it's
properties. I have been using it to disinfect, but it may not be
working. I really need to know for sure. Thanks, Artielle




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#3674 From: "bbanever" <bbanever@...>
Date: Sun Feb 24, 2008 3:47 pm
Subject: Re: [!! SPAM] [ silvermedicine.org ] CS storage
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Artielle,

       Yes you can store CS in clear glass... and you can also store it in
plastic too.  Studies show either one works fine and chemicals won't leach
from the plastic into the silver.  It's best not to put the silver in direct
sunlight for any length
----- Original Message -----
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Subject: [!! SPAM] [ silvermedicine.org ] CS storage


> I'll try again (lost the first attempt to cyberspace)
> Can I store CS in clear glass? I also have some in a plastic spray
> bottle I bought from walmart. I think someone said this negates it's
> properties. I have been using it to disinfect, but it may not be
> working. I really need to know for sure. Thanks, Artielle
>
>
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#3673 From: "Artielle" <tlhough@...>
Date: Sun Feb 24, 2008 3:32 pm
Subject: CS storage
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I'll try again (lost the first attempt to cyberspace)
Can I store CS in clear glass? I also have some in a plastic spray
bottle I bought from walmart. I think someone said this negates it's
properties. I have been using it to disinfect, but it may not be
working. I really need to know for sure. Thanks, Artielle

#3672 From: the kneeling fool <kneel.pardoe@...>
Date: Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:09 am
Subject: Re: [ silvermedicine.org ] food grade hydrogen peroxide
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On Monday 18 February 2008, bweez@... wrote:
> Lesson for the day!.... food grade hydrogen peroxide
> -dilute, dilute, dilute!

p.s.

to get 3% from 35%,
add 11 (eleven) parts filtered/distilled water to one part
HP. (actually gives slightly under 3%).
or 10 parts to 1 will be slightly over 3%.
  Simple as that.

don't worry,

you won't have damaged yourself. The whitening of the skin
is quite common and as you say disappears after a short
while. The frothing is just the release of the extra
oxygen. If you were to swallow some, drinking water
immediately should allay any problems depending on how much
of what strength.

--
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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/urine_therapy

#3671 From: the kneeling fool <kneel.pardoe@...>
Date: Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:57 am
Subject: Re: [ silvermedicine.org ] food grade hydrogen peroxide
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On Monday 18 February 2008, bweez@... wrote:
> This isn't a forward... or a hoax... it happened to me,
> Louise ;-)
>
> I bought "food grade" hydrogen peroxide over the internet
> to gargle with because I can't handle store bought
> mouthwash. Well...I got fooled by the term "food grade."
> If it's food grade, you can eat it, right? I don't
> think so...
>
> But I found out one thing, it doesn't leave permanent
> scars in your mouth when you gargle with it FULL
> STRENGTH! Annnyyyyhow. The bottle I got had no
> instructions, so I gutched a mouthful straight from the
> bottle to gargle with... "holy millions of teeny tiny
> pop-rocks, Robin!" My mouth foamed up worse than Old
> Yeller on his worst day! I was rinsing with plain water
> for 5 minutes before I stopped foaming at the mouth! Then
> my hands turned ashy white wherever it touched my skin!
> That didn't seem to be too good of sign either! (it went
> away after about 30 minutes with no known ill effects.)
>
> Soooo. I got back on the internet and typed in hydrogen
> peroxide food grade and found out that "food-grade" is
> 33% h2o2 and the non-food grade that you buy in the
> grocery store (that supposedly causes cancer because it
> has some chemicals in it that are bad for you) has only
> 3%!!! Weeeellll, I learned a lesson and thank the Lord, I
> didn't die from it. Next time I order anything from the
> internet that doesn't have instructions on it, I'd BETTER
> find out more about it before I use it! Mmmmhhhmmm! Yes,
> I know... I know... "dumb as a post." 
>
> Lesson for the day!.... food grade hydrogen peroxide
> -dilute, dilute, dilute!
>
> --
> God loves ya, Weez (aka Louise)

Food Grade usually means 35%. It is this grade because it is
ok for human consumption, **BUT NOT AT THIS STRENGTH**.

Weaker solutions usually have stabilisers added and so are
not so suitable for dilution and drinking or spraying.

3% is usually enough for mouthwash, but in special need 6 or
9 % are ok.

this site has a calculator for diluting h2o2,

   http://www.silvermedicine.org/conversionform2.html

or you could join the list

   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HydrogenPeroxide/

and get advice there.

I use 3% with bicarb of soda as a toothpaste. it is
wonderful and leaves your mouth tasting like a baby smells.
:)

--
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#3670 From: "bob Larson" <bobList@...>
Date: Mon Feb 18, 2008 6:57 pm
Subject: RE: [ silvermedicine.org ] food grade hydrogen peroxide
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good thing you didn't swallow.

make small batches of diluted to use, leaving the full strength tightly
capped in the frig (where kids can't get to it)

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> To: silverdatawebsite@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ silvermedicine.org ] food grade hydrogen peroxide
>
>
> This isn't a forward... or a hoax... it happened to me, Louise ;-)
>
> I bought "food grade" hydrogen peroxide over the internet to
> gargle with because I can't handle store bought mouthwash.
> Well...I got fooled by the term "food grade."  If it's food
> grade, you can eat it, right?  I don't think so...
>
> But I found out one thing, it doesn't leave permanent scars in
> your mouth when you gargle with it FULL STRENGTH!  Annnyyyyhow.
> The bottle I got had no instructions, so I gutched a mouthful
> straight from the bottle to gargle with... "holy millions of
> teeny tiny pop-rocks, Robin!" My mouth foamed up worse than Old
> Yeller on his worst day!  I was rinsing with plain water for 5
> minutes before I stopped foaming at the mouth! Then my hands
> turned ashy white wherever it touched my skin! That didn't seem
> to be too good of sign either! (it went away after about 30
> minutes with no known ill effects.)
>
> Soooo. I got back on the internet and typed in hydrogen peroxide
> food grade and found out that "food-grade" is 33% h2o2 and the
> non-food grade that you buy in the grocery store (that supposedly
> causes cancer because it has some chemicals in it that are bad
> for you) has only 3%!!! Weeeellll, I learned a lesson and thank
> the Lord, I didn't die from it. Next time I order anything from
> the internet that doesn't have instructions on it, I'd BETTER
> find out more about it before I use it! Mmmmhhhmmm!  Yes, I
> know... I know... "dumb as a post."
>
> Lesson for the day!....  food grade hydrogen peroxide -dilute,
> dilute, dilute!
>
> --
> God loves ya, Weez (aka Louise)
>
> For then it shall be said; our mouths were filled with laughter,
> and our tongues with Songs of Joy, then it was said among the
> nations, "The Lord has done great things for them." (Psalm 126:2)
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#3669 From: bweez@...
Date: Mon Feb 18, 2008 6:34 pm
Subject: food grade hydrogen peroxide
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This isn't a forward... or a hoax... it happened to me, Louise ;-)

I bought "food grade" hydrogen peroxide over the internet to gargle with because
I can't handle store bought mouthwash. Well...I got fooled by the term "food
grade."  If it's food grade, you can eat it, right?  I don't think so...

But I found out one thing, it doesn't leave permanent scars in your mouth when
you gargle with it FULL STRENGTH!  Annnyyyyhow. The bottle I got had no
instructions, so I gutched a mouthful straight from the bottle to gargle with...
"holy millions of  teeny tiny pop-rocks, Robin!" My mouth foamed up worse than
Old Yeller on his worst day!  I was rinsing with plain water for 5 minutes
before I stopped foaming at the mouth! Then my hands turned ashy white wherever
it touched my skin! That didn't seem to be too good of sign either! (it went
away after about 30 minutes with no known ill effects.)

Soooo. I got back on the internet and typed in hydrogen peroxide food grade and
found out that "food-grade" is 33% h2o2 and the non-food grade that you buy in
the grocery store (that supposedly causes cancer because it has some chemicals
in it that are bad for you) has only 3%!!! Weeeellll, I learned a lesson and
thank the Lord, I didn't die from it. Next time I order anything from the
internet that doesn't have instructions on it, I'd BETTER find out more about it
before I use it! Mmmmhhhmmm!  Yes, I know... I know... "dumb as a post."

Lesson for the day!....  food grade hydrogen peroxide -dilute, dilute, dilute!

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with Songs of Joy, then it was said among the nations, "The Lord has done great
things for them." (Psalm 126:2)

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#3668 From: the kneeling fool <kneel.pardoe@...>
Date: Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:33 pm
Subject: Re: [ silvermedicine.org ] Re: thanks re: h2o2 for oxidation of silver rods
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On Friday 15 February 2008, Artielle wrote:
> Hi again,
> Question- What is 'food grade' peroxide. Is this the
> stuff one buys at Walmart? Thanks y'all, A

Food Grade means 33% food quality, as I think there is a 33%
that is not food quality. It is then diluted with filtered
or distilled water to the appropriate strength.

You can work out proportions by going to;

   http://www.silvermedicine.org/conversionform2.html

There is also some good info on this site.

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#3667 From: "Jason" <research@...>
Date: Sat Feb 16, 2008 5:14 am
Subject: Re: [ silvermedicine.org ] CS in spas
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Hi:

The short and simple answer?  No...

To be absolutely certain you are safe, you'd need to reach a concentration
of about 3 PPM for still water with an unknown or variable PH level.

The long answer can be found by reading the following article:

http://www.lenntech.com/water-disinfection/disinfectants-copper-silver-ionizatio\
n.htm

There may be more complex methods of safely using silver along with ozone
for hot tub water disinfection, but they would be very involved and require
significant modifications to a hot tub, as well as relatively expensive
equipment additions, including significant plumbing changes.

Best Regards,

Jason


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Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 9:49 AM
Subject: [ silvermedicine.org ] CS in spas


> Hi everybody! I just joined in desparation, looking for answers!
>
> I got a used two person hydrotherapy spa and would like to use CS in it
> instead of chlorine. I have a CS generator which makes about a quart at a
> time. Can I use CS in my spa this safely? Can anyone help me with this. I
> have searched the web and can only find companies that sell it but don't
> say how nuch it takes, etc.
>
> Thanks.
>
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#3666 From: "Jason" <research@...>
Date: Sat Feb 16, 2008 4:52 am
Subject: Re: [ silvermedicine.org ] cs for sinus infection?
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Hi Artielle:

Yes, by all means...  I've found using CS to irrigate the sinuses to be very
effective with sinus infections.

Best Regards,

Jason

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Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 3:41 PM
Subject: [ silvermedicine.org ] cs for sinus infection?


> Hi everyone,
> I'm very new dealing with colloidal silver. I recently bought a silver
> puppy and made a quart of cs. I would like to try irrigating sinus
> cavities related to a long term sinus problem, but don't know if this
> is an appropriate use for cs. Can anyone advise me? Thanks so much,
> Artielle
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#3665 From: "Artielle" <tlhough@...>
Date: Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:49 pm
Subject: Re: thanks re: h2o2 for oxidation of silver rods
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Hi again,
Question- What is 'food grade' peroxide. Is this the stuff one buys
at Walmart? Thanks y'all, A


> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: "Terry A" <pyro@...>
> Bars turning black.
> This is an oxidation problem.You need to clean the bars with
undiluted "Food
> Grade" peroxide (H202).
> Either use a very soft brush dipped in H202 or lie the bars in a
shallow
> glass dish and brush lightly.
> The bars will come back to their original colour.NOTE YOU MUST WEAR
> PROTECTIVE GLOVES AS WELL AS EYE PROTECTION.
> H202 is highly corrosive in an undiluted form.
> Terry

#3664 From: "Artielle" <tlhough@...>
Date: Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:41 pm
Subject: cs for sinus infection?
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Hi everyone,
I'm very new dealing with colloidal silver. I recently bought a silver
puppy and made a quart of cs. I would like to try irrigating sinus
cavities related to a long term sinus problem, but don't know if this
is an appropriate use for cs. Can anyone advise me? Thanks so much,
Artielle

#3663 From: bweez@...
Date: Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:43 pm
Subject: thanks re: h2o2 for oxidation of silver rods
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Thanks Terry. I'll give it a try.

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with Songs of Joy, then it was said among the nations, "The Lord has done great
things for them." (Psalm 126:2)


-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Terry A" <pyro@...>
Bars turning black.
This is an oxidation problem.You need to clean the bars with undiluted "Food
Grade" peroxide (H202).
Either use a very soft brush dipped in H202 or lie the bars in a shallow
glass dish and brush lightly.
The bars will come back to their original colour.NOTE YOU MUST WEAR
PROTECTIVE GLOVES AS WELL AS EYE PROTECTION.
H202 is highly corrosive in an undiluted form.
Terry
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From: silverdatawebsite@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:silverdatawebsite@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of bweez
Sent: 14 February 2008 08:13 PM
To: silverdatawebsite@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ silvermedicine.org ] Second question

I'm a layman guys, so please don't hit me with a bunch of letters and
numbers. I just need the simple facts, please. I have a small colloidal
silver generator. It has two small bars of silver. (about 3 inches long
and maybe 1/16 of an inch in diameter.) When I first started making my
CS, the bars did what I was told they would do, one made bubbles, the
other turned black. But now, they both turn black. My kit said to check
if the solution was coming out right by shining a flashlight beam
through the water and to if the the beam becomes conical which it still
does. But I'm concerned about both the silver bars turning black.

Anybody have any ideas about this? Thanks

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#3662 From: "Terry A" <pyro@...>
Date: Fri Feb 15, 2008 6:17 am
Subject: RE: [ silvermedicine.org ] Second question
pyro@...
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Bars turning black.
This is an oxidation problem.You need to clean the bars with undiluted "Food
Grade" peroxide (H202).
Either use a very soft brush dipped in H202 or lie the bars in a shallow
glass dish and brush lightly.
The bars will come back to their original colour.NOTE YOU MUST WEAR
PROTECTIVE GLOVES AS WELL AS EYE PROTECTION.
H202 is highly corrosive in an undiluted form.
Terry
   -----Original Message-----
   From: silverdatawebsite@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:silverdatawebsite@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of bweez
   Sent: 14 February 2008 08:13 PM
   To: silverdatawebsite@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: [ silvermedicine.org ] Second question


   I'm a layman guys, so please don't hit me with a bunch of letters and
   numbers. I just need the simple facts, please. I have a small colloidal
   silver generator. It has two small bars of silver. (about 3 inches long
   and maybe 1/16 of an inch in diameter.) When I first started making my
   CS, the bars did what I was told they would do, one made bubbles, the
   other turned black. But now, they both turn black. My kit said to check
   if the solution was coming out right by shining a flashlight beam
   through the water and to if the the beam becomes conical which it still
   does. But I'm concerned about both the silver bars turning black.

   Anybody have any ideas about this? Thanks






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