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Re: [ silvermedicine.org ] Re: Ionic silver

Hi Paul:

Unfortunately, based upon people who have acquired argyria with silver
protein nasal sprays, argyria would most likely first show up on the face
when acquired via intranasal use.

I agree with you; there is no actual danger of mixing CS with salt after the
production process, although it is possible that it could reduce the
effectiveness.

Hopefully, you'll be able to wipe out the infection.

Best Regards,

Jason

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul" <experiences@...>
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Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: [ silvermedicine.org ] Re: Ionic silver


> Thanks J, but I used GSE daily for years - then I found out the minimum
> inhibitory concentration for aspergillus fumigatus is 300ppm
> (http://bobosplayhouse.com/about_gse.html) which I find irritates my
> nose intolerably.
> I think that 2 drops in 8 ounces is (very) approximately 1 in 7000 or
> about 150 parts per million [that's assuming 30 drops to one ml, and 8
> ounces = 250 ml], and the commercially available stuff is already
> diluted I think. Also, this concentration will just stop the stuff
> growing. It's the minimum lethal concentration that is relevant, which
> would be higher.
>
> I have tried a huge number of things, from ozone inhalation to hydrogen
> peroxide to oregano oil, and many others. Most of these things irritate
> the sinuses badly at a concentration that will kill aspergillus. Most of
> them I became sensitised to after a while, like oregano oil. Hydrogen
> peroxide at the right concentration (3 drops in 10 mls of 3% I can
> tolerate) isn't too bad, but I used that for a long time and it didn't
> eliminate the fungus. That's why I am enthusiastic about silver citrate,
> which should kill aspergillus at less than 100ppm yet 300ppm doesn't
> irritate my sinuses too badly. There must surely be a point at which I
> can reduce the fungus to a level which my immune system can deal with.
>
> I know that MAKING colloidal silver with salt is a bad idea, but why is
> mixing them later a bad idea? I have found that when I add a little salt
> to my dark CS it takes a while, more than an hour, for them to react
> (the dark colour disappears - no white precipitate so not silver
> chloride, who knows what happens), and without it CS burns my sinuses
> and they swell and my nose is blocked for days. Adding even a tiny grain
> of salt to the Angstrom silver immediately generates a white precipitate
> (silver chloride I assume) which is why I add DMSO instead.
>
> Incidentally, Jason, if you are reading this, where do you think I would
> see the first signs of argyria induced by silver absorbed through my
> nasal mucosa? I know that the fingernails are the first to show signs
> from ingestion. So far I'm not blue or grey externally, though my ENT
> commented my nasal mucosa are grey. I'm sure that's from the dark
> colloidal (ionic) silver, not the silver citrate. Time will tell I
> suppose.
>
> Paul H
>
> U4ia wrote:
>> Paul H,
>>
>> You might try adding 2 drops of Grapefruit Seed Extract (GSE) to your
>> sinus flush (in 8 oz. of water)-- GSE kills most yeast, fungus, Candida
>> ect.-- But, for sinuses I have had good luck with just saline and GSE
>> twice a day and when you get the fungus under control reduce the saline
>> to 75% (cuts down on salt irritation). Saline is one teaspoon of salt in
>> 8 oz. of water-- 75% is 3/4 teaspoon . I use bottled water not distilled
>> because distilled eventually leaches the minerals out of your skin and
>> makes things worse. Also, BE WARNED, I would never add salt and silver
>> together.
>>
>> J. Daniel
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>
>
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I have been using CS for quite a few years. Recently I was reading some info online and I am now VERY confused! I have read that there shouldn't be ANY sea...
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... Never, ever, use anything and but pure distilled water and. Here is a good tutorial: http://www.atlasnova.com/CSMakingInfo.htm...
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Nov 18, 2008
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Greetings and welcome. The reason that you would want to avoid using anything but distilled water in your process is two fold: 1. An abundance of silver which...
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Hi: Your problem is using pure distilled water that will not conduct low voltage DC. When I made Ionic silver which you are making, I took a wet toothpick and...
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I have been making colloidal silver for some time now and there should'nt be any discoloration of the water using the method you described. During and at the...
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Greetings, and Happy New Year :-) I recently bought some 300 ppm 'Angstrom Silver", as I have a fungal sinus infection that the CS I make has not eliminated. I...
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Paul, I just happened to receive your email, though I have been inactive in the group for a while. In reading your experience with the 300ppm silver and DMSO...
Peter Stellas
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Hello Peter, I used a nasal spray with the silver/DMSO mix and put some in my ears. This was followed by drainage from my sinuses, and soreness down the side...
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Hi Paul: The product you are using is a silver citrate. While silver citrate is very effectively at higher parts per million, please be aware that additional ...
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3rd time lucky? Sorry about this, PC Tools free Antivirus keeps eating the text and subject of my emails. Hi Jason, Several years ago I developed sinus...
Paul
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Feb 25, 2009
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You may want to try salt with bicarbonate of soda in the neti pot. The bicarbonate of soda is supposed to kill off fungus. I don't think I would add the EIS...
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Hi Dan, Thanks, but I have used bicarbonate of soda, daily for years, but it didn't help much, unfortunately. I still use a little added to my sinus mix....
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Paul H, You might try adding 2 drops of Grapefruit Seed Extract (GSE) to your sinus flush (in 8 oz. of water)-- GSE kills most yeast, fungus, Candida ect.--...
U4ia
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Thanks J, but I used GSE daily for years - then I found out the minimum inhibitory concentration for aspergillus fumigatus is 300ppm ...
Paul
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Hi Paul: Unfortunately, based upon people who have acquired argyria with silver protein nasal sprays, argyria would most likely first show up on the face when...
Jason R Eaton
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Thanks Jason. There is no sign at all of argyria as yet, but I will keep a close eye on my face. I'm quite confident I will eliminate this infection...
Paul
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Hi Folks, I TOTALLY agree with Jason. Using Silver nasal sprays is a big no, no. Factually, we have found that making a simple solution of salt. (not iodised...
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Terry, I've used CS in my nose for years with no problems. Of course I only use pure CS made from distilled water and .999 silver with no salts or anything...
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I've been using home made CS up my nose pretty much daily for the last 7 years or so, so I'm pretty sure it won't cause too many problems. My concern is with...
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