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Re: [ silvermedicine.org ] Ionic silver

3rd time lucky? Sorry about this, PC Tools free Antivirus keeps eating
the text and subject of my emails.

Hi Jason,

Several years ago I developed sinus problems, and tried using home made
EIS in a neti pot, which seemed to help, but didn't solve the problem.
So I tried making a stronger EIS using hot distilled water and leaving
it for much longer. I ended up with a dark yellow liquid - about 30 ppm
using a PWT. Mixing this with a little sea salt (otherwise it burns) I
used a sinus flooding technique - using a syringe to fill my sinuses and
soaking for a few minutes, then snorting it all out. To my surprise and
horror, masses of dark fibrous material came out of my nose. I examined
this material under a microscope, and identified hyphae, fruiting bodies
and spores. Comparing photos I took with those on an on-line mycology
site, I concluded this was aspergillus fumigatus. I also sent some of it
off to a mycology lab (I worked in a hospital lab at the time) and they
cultured aspergillus fumigatus. Several ENT doctors (including a
professor who claims to be a world expert on fungal sinusitis) told me
that it was impossible for aspergillus to be causing me any problems as
I am not immunosuppressed or allergic to aspergillus - I have since been
told by another doctor that this is nonsense. By this time I was
extremely unwell, and was fired from my job for 'incapacity'. I honestly
thought I was going to die - I had seizures and episodes of feeling so
ill I didn't recognize my wife, headaches that completely incapacitated
me for days, nausea, vomiting, diarrhoea, it was horrible. I continued
using the silver and washing out my nose, experimenting with various
things that I found would kill fungus - various essential oils, Rife,
Godzilla, various zappers and magnetic pulsers, ozone inhalation, too
many things to list, spent a fortune and went deep into debt. I also
explored ways to boost my immune system with supplements, rebounding, qi
gong etc. Eventually I added some hydrogen peroxide and DMSO to my sinus
wash mix, and washed out my sinuses as many as 12 times a day. The
amount of fungus gradually reduced and I began to feel better. That
brings me up to date. I now only wash out 3 times a day but if I stop I
feel sicker and sicker. Incidentally, my wife also has the same
infection, but not as badly. We believe we got it when our car developed
a leak in the sunroof and grew mould on the back seat, which my wife
complained about bitterly, but I wasn't too concerned about - more fool me.

There's a study here that suggests that lower concentrations of silver
don't kill aspergillus niger. I see no reason that aspergillus fumigatus
would be any more susceptible:
http://www.silver-colloids.com/Pubs/EMSL/Aniger.pdf.

Thanks for the advice about argyria. I'll keep an eye on my fingernails
- it first appears there I believe. I take 5 grams of vitamin C 3 times
a day, and over 200 ug selenium, so hopefully that will minimise the
chances of argyria. Frankly I would rather be bright blue and healthy
than have to live with this illness.

Any suggestions on better ways to use EIS would be gratefully received.
I also have a Silver Puppy to make EIS.

I am now seeing a different ENT who is taking this seriously, and
actually took an interest in my photos of the fungus. Other doctors have
looked away and said "I don't believe in that"! They have suggested
exploratory surgery under anaesthetic, which I might consider - it
depends on the results of CT and MRI scans I have next week. Thankfully
I am in the UK and get medical treatment free.

Best wishes,

Paul H


Jason R Eaton wrote:
> Hi Paul:
>
> The product you are using is a silver citrate. While silver citrate
> is very effectively at higher parts per million, please be aware that
> additional risks of argyria are associated with both silver citrates,
> silver proteins, and silver nitrates... especially when used
> intranasally.
>
> I hypothesize that the acidic solution results in rapid uptake through
> nasal tissues and directly into the skin of the face. So if you must
> use it intranasally, I strongly recommend that you solve the problem
> as quickly as possible.
>
> However, one question I have is: How were you using your isolated
> silver for the infection?
>
> Nine times out of ten, a good quality silver isolate, even with lower
> PPM, can be used to address sinus infections of all kinds, provided it
> is used correctly.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Jason
>




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I have been using CS for quite a few years. Recently I was reading some info online and I am now VERY confused! I have read that there shouldn't be ANY sea...
gr8lite
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Nov 18, 2008
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... Never, ever, use anything and but pure distilled water and. Here is a good tutorial: http://www.atlasnova.com/CSMakingInfo.htm...
abeland_1
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Nov 18, 2008
2:30 am

Greetings and welcome. The reason that you would want to avoid using anything but distilled water in your process is two fold: 1. An abundance of silver which...
Jason R Eaton
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Nov 18, 2008
4:48 pm

Hi: Your problem is using pure distilled water that will not conduct low voltage DC. When I made Ionic silver which you are making, I took a wet toothpick and...
Bill Amos
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Nov 18, 2008
10:44 pm

I have been making colloidal silver for some time now and there should'nt be any discoloration of the water using the method you described. During and at the...
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Nov 18, 2008
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Greetings, and Happy New Year :-) I recently bought some 300 ppm 'Angstrom Silver", as I have a fungal sinus infection that the CS I make has not eliminated. I...
Paul
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Feb 24, 2009
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Paul, I just happened to receive your email, though I have been inactive in the group for a while. In reading your experience with the 300ppm silver and DMSO...
Peter Stellas
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Feb 25, 2009
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Hello Peter, I used a nasal spray with the silver/DMSO mix and put some in my ears. This was followed by drainage from my sinuses, and soreness down the side...
Paul
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Feb 25, 2009
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Hi Paul: The product you are using is a silver citrate. While silver citrate is very effectively at higher parts per million, please be aware that additional ...
Jason R Eaton
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Feb 25, 2009
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3rd time lucky? Sorry about this, PC Tools free Antivirus keeps eating the text and subject of my emails. Hi Jason, Several years ago I developed sinus...
Paul
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Feb 25, 2009
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You may want to try salt with bicarbonate of soda in the neti pot. The bicarbonate of soda is supposed to kill off fungus. I don't think I would add the EIS...
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Apr 5, 2009
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Hi Dan, Thanks, but I have used bicarbonate of soda, daily for years, but it didn't help much, unfortunately. I still use a little added to my sinus mix....
Paul
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Paul H, You might try adding 2 drops of Grapefruit Seed Extract (GSE) to your sinus flush (in 8 oz. of water)-- GSE kills most yeast, fungus, Candida ect.--...
U4ia
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Apr 6, 2009
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Thanks J, but I used GSE daily for years - then I found out the minimum inhibitory concentration for aspergillus fumigatus is 300ppm ...
Paul
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Apr 9, 2009
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Hi Paul: Unfortunately, based upon people who have acquired argyria with silver protein nasal sprays, argyria would most likely first show up on the face when...
Jason R Eaton
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Apr 10, 2009
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Thanks Jason. There is no sign at all of argyria as yet, but I will keep a close eye on my face. I'm quite confident I will eliminate this infection...
Paul
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Apr 11, 2009
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Hi Folks, I TOTALLY agree with Jason. Using Silver nasal sprays is a big no, no. Factually, we have found that making a simple solution of salt. (not iodised...
Terry Anderson
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Apr 12, 2009
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Terry, I've used CS in my nose for years with no problems. Of course I only use pure CS made from distilled water and .999 silver with no salts or anything...
Bob Banever
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Apr 12, 2009
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I've been using home made CS up my nose pretty much daily for the last 7 years or so, so I'm pretty sure it won't cause too many problems. My concern is with...
Paul
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