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Antibacterial pencils: Toxic, useless and hazardous to public health   Message List  
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Re: [ silvermedicine.org ] Antibacterial pencils: Toxic, useless and hazardous to public health


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>
>We live with bacteria all around us. In fact, your immune system needs to
>be stimulated by some exposure to bacteria in order to be healthy enough
>to defend you against those really aggressive ones that might make you
>sick. You have to have bacteria in your environment if you want to be
>healthy. So, the whole concept of antibacterial products is actually quite
>ridiculous to begin with.

## Agreed


>We also learned that many of these antibiotic products contain toxic
>chemicals. What do I mean by toxic? I mean chemicals that are molecularly
>similar to Agent Orange -- chemicals that cause brain cancer and impair
>the ability of your brain and nervous system to function adequately.

## Veracity Caution , emotional knee jerk "Buzzword" alert!
The harmful chemicals in Agent Orange are Dioxins..also produced when
things are bleached with Chlorine. [Mom]
Are you saying that antimicrobial coatings are Dioxins?
I seriously doubt it!!!
It's also doubtful that a Herbicide will kill germs. [Dioxins might,
along with everything else.]
The "carrier" used in Herbicide formulas will, being wood alcohol in some
and kerosene in some others.
Let's not be mixing Herbicides, Pesticides and Microbicides into the same
pot, shall we?

..a bit of info:

##########
Agent Orange is a roughly 1:1 mixture of two
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phenoxy_herbicide>phenoxy herbicides in
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ester>ester form,
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2%2C4-dichlorophenoxyacetic_acid>2,4-dichloropheno\
xyacetic
acid (2,4-D) and
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2%2C4%2C5-trichlorophenoxyacetic_acid>2,4,5-trichl\
orophenoxyacetic
acid (2,4,5-T). These herbicides were developed during the 1940s by
independent teams in <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England>England and the
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States>United States for use in
controlling broad-leaf plants. Phenoxy agents work by mimicking a plant
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Growth_hormone>growth hormone,
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indoleacetic_acid>indoleacetic acid (IAA).
When sprayed on broad-leaf plants they induce rapid, uncontrolled growth,
eventually killing them. When sprayed on crops such as
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheat>wheat or
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maize>corn, it selectively kills just the
broad-leaf plants in the field - the weeds - leaving the crop relatively
unaffected. First introduced in 1946, these herbicides were in widespread
use in <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agriculture>agriculture by the middle
of the 1950s.

It was later learned that a dioxin,
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetrachlorodibenzodioxin>2,3,7,8-tetrachlorodibenz\
o-para-dioxin
(TCDD), is produced as a side effect of the manufacture of 2,4,5-T, and was
thus present in any of the herbicides that used it. The National Toxicology
Program has classified TCDD to be a human carcinogen, frequently associated
with <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soft_tissue_sarcoma>soft-tissue sarcoma,
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-Hodgkin%27s_lymphoma>Non-Hodgkin's
lymphoma, <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hodgkin%27s_disease>Hodgkin's
disease and
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronic_lymphocytic_leukemia>chronic
lymphocytic leukemia (CLL). 2,4,5-T has since been banned for use in the US
and many other countries.

The herbicide 2,4-D does not contain dioxin, and remains one of the most
used herbicides in the world today.
############

BUT, the metabolites of growth hormones mimic female sex hormones in the
environment and is responsible for a huge increase in hermaphroditic frogs
and alligators [sterile] in the Everglades where farmland water runoff goes
in a big part of Florida...and may effect human fertility as well when in
groundwater supplies, which is , of course........a conspiracy rather than
ignorance in action over a period of time.

Ode [This looks like a job for VELPAR MAN and his side kicked dog
2-4-D! Round em up and kill em off!] .....an old forestry work
joke. Too bad I can't post photos here. The herbicide crew for "tree
release" looks like space invaders on the march...singing " Please release
me let me grow, the competition's soon to go....."

Velpar: Deciduous specific growth hormone based [virtually] non toxic
herbicide in a methanol [very toxic, but short lived] carrier. [Kills
hardwoods that shade out pine trees]
Company rep said, "I'd drink this stuff"
We said, "Go right ahead, asshole". [We prefer Vodka..hold the hormones,
doesn't taste good and we already aren't getting laid.]

Oh look! The old gang has a website!
http://www.superiorforestry.com/velpar.htm
http://www.superiorforestry.com/treeplnt.htm



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