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#849 From: Katie Gordon <jeffkatiegordon@...>
Date: Mon Nov 3, 2008 9:17 pm
Subject: Question about Anniversary dates
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Can anyone share some ideas for honoring/celebrating your babies birth/loss day? Thursday is one year from when we lost my girls Emma, Kelsey and Lauren and I can't think of the best/right way to honor them.
 
Any thoughts or advice would be so appreciated...while I know there isn't a right or wrong way I was just wondering about some ideas.
 
Katie Gordon


#848 From: shareatlantasupport@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon Nov 3, 2008 12:25 am
Subject: Men & Womens Group, 11/7/2008, 7:30 pm
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#847 From: shareatlantasupport@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat Nov 1, 2008 3:50 am
Subject: SHARE ATLANTA Grief Forum’s Etiquette, 11/1/2008, 12:00 am
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Title:   SHARE ATLANTA Grief Forum’s Etiquette
 
Date:   Saturday November 1, 2008
Time:   All Day
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Notes:   A GUIDE TO EFFECTIVE AND CONSIDERATE LIST MEMBERSHIP

1. We are here to heal. Please respect other people’s grief.
2. Remember that we have all been hurt by the death of our baby(ies). This is a safe haven to express our grief and to help others that are new in their grief walk.
3. This is not a debate group. Everyone has their own grief walk. Do not be judgmental of other people’s opinions.
4. SA is nondenominational. SHARE Atlanta members represent a broad array of religious beliefs and political views. Spirituality is part of the healing process. SA is open to sharing spiritual views as healing happens. Discussion of religious feelings can happen as long as we do not judge or become critical of one another’s beliefs. In the meetings, since we all are in one room, the facilitator is careful to point out that no one philosophy is encouraged. This is also true for our forum, and each person can ignore or delete those posts that do not embrace their beliefs. No accusations should be made that one belief is better than another. We can learn from each other if we protect the personal space and beliefs of each member. The death of our baby causes many to examine, embrace, or enhance their spirituality. For many there is much comfort from their faith. So it is important to be able to discuss and explore our thoughts without fear of being judged. To protect those who do not wish to enter into a religious topic, please include "Religious" in the subject line if the post focuses on religious thoughts, poems, or stories. Political views are inappropriate for this list.
5. Do not post chain emails. We do not wish to post other people’s emails on our forum. If you want to send poems, stories, etc, that is fine. Include just the story or poem – no additional thoughts or comments made in a chain note.
6. Do not use judgmental, emotionally charged language such as “outraged,” “dumbfounded,” “ridiculous,” etc. or graphics (@#!!; geeee…, etc) when describing yo
 
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#846 From: shareatlantasupport@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat Nov 1, 2008 3:50 am
Subject: SHARE ATLANTA Grief Forum’s Etiquette 2, 11/1/2008, 12:00 am
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Title:   SHARE ATLANTA Grief Forum’s Etiquette 2
 
Date:   Saturday November 1, 2008
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Notes:   RESPONDING TO INAPPROPRIATE POSTS:
1) If you feel that someone has made an inappropriate post, please contact a moderator about your concerns. In many cases the post was made without thinking and the thread will die out quickly if ignored on-list. If you respond on-list with a complaint, you will most likely only exacerbate the problem.
2) When you see an inappropriate post that has little response to it, remember that you only see what was posted to the list. The poster likely received private messages pointing out their mistake, and a moderator may also have emailed them privately.
3) Moderators may remove any post that is inappropriate.
4) If you feel compelled to make a formal complaint to the moderator, do so off-list and include specific information: the name and/or e-mail address of the offending poster, the specific content you find offensive. The moderator will not accept vague complaints.
5) Most likely, issues of decorum will be self-correcting among the adults on this list. We hope that the need for intervention by a moderator continues to occur sparingly. Failure to comply with list etiquette may result in being placed on moderated status. Habitually offensive or easily offended people will be emailed by the moderator. It is possible for the moderator to place a poster to “may not post” status, without notice and indefinitely. This usually will occur when someone has entered the forum who does not belong there (as demonstrated by the nature of his/her posts.).
*Moderated status does not rescind posting privileges but allows SHARE Atlanta moderators to approve messages prior to posting them.

REMEMBER:
This list is archived, and all your messages will be available for others to examine for as long as this list exists. We want new members to be able to read through our thoughts and comments for years to come. We learn and grow together. Thank you for your kind support and respect of one another.

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#845 From: marciahm@...
Date: Sat Oct 25, 2008 7:01 pm
Subject: Re: [SHARE Atlanta Preg. & Newborn Loss Grief Support] SA Angel Garden Memorial Service , 10/26/2008, 3:00 pm
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Hi,

I just wanted to say, the memorial service lasts around 1 hour...but people can and do visit for a longer time frame.  There are chairs.  Hope to see you tomorrow...Take care,  .Marcia

-----Original Message-----
From: shareatlantasupport@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Oct 25, 2008 2:55 PM
To: shareatlantasupport@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [SHARE Atlanta Preg. & Newborn Loss Grief Support] SA Angel Garden Memorial Service , 10/26/2008, 3:00 pm

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Title:   SA Angel Garden Memorial Service
 
Date:   Sunday October 26, 2008
Time:   3:00 pm - 5:00 pm
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Location:   Arlington Memorial Park, Sandy Springs, GA
Street:   201 Mount Vernon Highway Ne
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#844 From: shareatlantasupport@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat Oct 25, 2008 6:55 pm
Subject: SA Angel Garden Memorial Service , 10/26/2008, 3:00 pm
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Title:   SA Angel Garden Memorial Service
 
Date:   Sunday October 26, 2008
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Location:   Arlington Memorial Park, Sandy Springs, GA
Street:   201 Mount Vernon Highway Ne
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#843 From: marciahm@...
Date: Sat Oct 25, 2008 3:15 pm
Subject: Re: [SHARE Atlanta Preg. & Newborn Loss Grief Support] SA memorial service question
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Hi,

I do understand, and your precious children's names will be included in the
written litany.

Hope to see you tomorrow.

Take care,
Marcia

-----Original Message-----
>From: Shellon Clarke <sbclarke71@...>
>Sent: Oct 25, 2008 10:24 AM
>To: shareatlantasupport@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [SHARE Atlanta Preg. & Newborn Loss Grief Support] SA memorial
service question
>
>I have the same question. I've been real out of it being sick with cold after
cold and I'd like to include my little Aliyah Grace...
>
>Shellon
>Mom to survivor twin Zuri Alexis and angel baby Aliyah Grace
>Shellon Blanchard-Clarke
>
>
>Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: "Deanna" <todeannalynn@...>
>
>Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 14:18:49
>To: <shareatlantasupport@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: [SHARE Atlanta Preg. & Newborn Loss Grief Support] SA memorial service
question
>
>
>I can't believe I forgot to send in my son's name for the service
>tomorrow!  Is there a spoken litany? Can his name still be included in
>that?
>
>DeAnna - space cadet mother of angel Toren Murray
>
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#842 From: "Shellon Clarke" <sbclarke71@...>
Date: Sat Oct 25, 2008 2:24 pm
Subject: Re: [SHARE Atlanta Preg. & Newborn Loss Grief Support] SA memorial service question
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I have the same question. I've been real out of it being sick with cold after
cold and I'd like to include my little Aliyah Grace...

Shellon
Mom to survivor twin Zuri Alexis and angel baby Aliyah Grace
Shellon Blanchard-Clarke


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Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 14:18:49
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Subject: [SHARE Atlanta Preg. & Newborn Loss Grief Support] SA memorial service
question


I can't believe I forgot to send in my son's name for the service
tomorrow!  Is there a spoken litany? Can his name still be included in
that?

DeAnna - space cadet mother of angel Toren Murray


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#841 From: "Deanna" <todeannalynn@...>
Date: Sat Oct 25, 2008 2:18 pm
Subject: SA memorial service question
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I can't believe I forgot to send in my son's name for the service
tomorrow!  Is there a spoken litany? Can his name still be included in
that?

DeAnna - space cadet mother of angel Toren Murray

#839 From: Adrianne Alyce <annealyce@...>
Date: Tue Oct 21, 2008 7:15 pm
Subject: Re: [SHARE Atlanta Preg. & Newborn Loss Grief Support] SA Angel Garden Memorial Service , 10/28/2008, 3:00 pm
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PLEASE NOTE: This will actually be this Sunday October 26, 2008 at 3:00 PM.
 
Thank you,
 
Adrianne


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Subject: [SHARE Atlanta Preg. & Newborn Loss Grief Support] SA Angel Garden Memorial Service , 10/28/2008, 3:00 pm
To: shareatlantasupport@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 2:55 PM

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Title:   SA Angel Garden Memorial Service
 
Date:   Tuesday October 28, 2008
Time:   3:00 pm - 5:00 pm
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Location:   Arlington Memorial Park, Sandy Springs, GA
Street:   201 Mount Vernon Highway Ne
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Phone:   1-404-255-0750
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#838 From: shareatlantasupport@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue Oct 21, 2008 6:55 pm
Subject: SA Angel Garden Memorial Service , 10/28/2008, 3:00 pm
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Reminder from:   shareatlantasupport Yahoo! Group
 
Title:   SA Angel Garden Memorial Service
 
Date:   Tuesday October 28, 2008
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Location:   Arlington Memorial Park, Sandy Springs, GA
Street:   201 Mount Vernon Highway Ne
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#837 From: marciahm@...
Date: Tue Oct 21, 2008 1:59 am
Subject: Re: SA Miller Family on TV for Oct. Awareness...SA Celebrates Oct. Awareness, too!
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Hi,

I just returned from March of Dimes and I will be sending out our exciting news!

I emailed Betty a little earlier today about this wonderful interview.  Very touching, complete, and I love what Joey, their son, says:  "I have a brother."   This interview is a beautiful tribute to the Miller's son and family and provides more awareness about the issues that bereaved parents face.  Advocacy and Awareness are key...in October and all year long.  Each of our baby's has a story to tell, and the Miller's tell their baby's story beautifully in this interview.  Click here for the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yAodw4iJ9Q   Brian's story.  The Millers are a SA Family, too.

Here is SA's online information about Pregnancy and Infant Loss Awareness month.  There is an October Awareness brochure in pdf on this page: http://www.shareatlanta.org/legacy/special.htm   Link to information about Oct. Awareness  We will have October Awareness pins at the memorial service on Sunday.

Also, our annual memorial service is this weekend..here is the information about it  http://www.shareatlanta.org/legacy/shareatlantaservices.htm  .   Here is a pdf invitation to the memorial service and our annual Women's Candlelighting Service:  http://www.shareatlanta.org/legacy/samemorialinvite08.pdf  PDF about SA's memorial services.

If you wish for your baby's name to be included in our litany, please email their precious name.  The memorial service is always very special.  Many daddies, mommies, and family members will be in attendance.  Every reading was written by a SHARE Atlanta parent.  We hope to see you there...

Again, congratulations to Betty, Brian and Joey for a beautiful gift in memory of baby, Brian.  Betty showed us her books at our August workshop and we all love them.  She can hellp you make one, too.  She is the Storybook Lady!  Storybooks for Healing www.mystorybooklady.com

Take care,
Marcia
The love stays..forever in our hearts.



-----Original Message-----
From: bettyboop8694
Sent: Oct 20, 2008 8:11 PM
To: shareatlantasupport@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [SHARE Atlanta Preg. & Newborn Loss Grief Support] Re: SA Family to be on TV this Sunday

Dear SA Friends--Here's our TV interview in case you missed it. I do
warn you it warrants a "mascara alert" We were interviewed by
Channel 2 to talk about October being Pregnancy & Infant Loss
Awareness Month and how bereaved families can remember their baby(ies)

Click here for the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yAodw4iJ9Q
Northside Hospital Perinatal Loss www.atlantapnl.com
Storybooks for Healing www.mystorybooklady.com

Thanks for watching,
Betty, Brian & Joey

>


#836 From: "bettyboop8694" <bnbm@...>
Date: Tue Oct 21, 2008 12:11 am
Subject: Re: SA Family to be on TV this Sunday
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Dear SA Friends--Here's our TV interview in case you missed it.  I do
warn you it warrants a "mascara alert"  We were interviewed by
Channel 2 to talk about October being Pregnancy & Infant Loss
Awareness Month and how bereaved families can remember their baby(ies)

Click here for the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yAodw4iJ9Q
Northside Hospital Perinatal Loss www.atlantapnl.com
Storybooks for Healing www.mystorybooklady.com

Thanks for watching,
Betty, Brian & Joey


--- In shareatlantasupport@yahoogroups.com, "bettyboop8694"
<bnbm@...> wrote:
>
> Set your DVRs...Betty, Brian & Joey were the SA/Northside Hospital
> family interviewed for this show :o)
> Please pass this on to anyone who may be interested!
>
> October is National Pregnancy and Infant Loss Awareness Month!
>
> Watch WSB-TV's People 2 People on Sunday, Oct. 19, 6:30 a.m., for a
> story about perinatal loss and promoting Northside's Atlanta Walk
to
> Remember on Sunday.  Dr. Eliza Bruscato and a Northside family are
> interviewed.
>
> For more information or to register for the Walk to Remember, go to
> www.atlantapnl.com or call (770) 442-8995.
>

#835 From: ayambri@...
Date: Fri Oct 17, 2008 6:47 pm
Subject: Re: [SHARE Atlanta Preg. & Newborn Loss Grief Support] Re: TORN
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You know Mindy....I never thought about it like that...."we have a higher purpose to help others."
I love that!

Maya


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Sent: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 2:38 pm
Subject: [SHARE Atlanta Preg. & Newborn Loss Grief Support] Re: TORN

Vanessa

I am so sorry you are going through all of this at once. Unfortunatley
you can't control the actions of others or fix stupid (the babymama).
Personally if I were her I wouldn't want my child to live in the shadow
of someone elses. To each is own but I think everyone deserves their
own name. Its like George Foreman naming all his sons George, its just
strange!

Just know that your angel belongs to you and nothing anyone says or
does will ever take that away. Once I learned to own my greif as mine
I was able to control it instead of the other way around. I let my
anger and frustrations fuel my passion to help others in similar
situations or through the March of Dimes work...avoid tragedy all
together. I don't know why our babies died, we may never know. I do
feel that because we are able to survive it, we have a higher purpose
to help others.


#834 From: "Mindy" <msimmons1023@...>
Date: Fri Oct 17, 2008 6:38 pm
Subject: Re: TORN
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Vanessa

I am so sorry you are going through all of this at once.  Unfortunatley
you can't control the actions of others or fix stupid (the babymama).
Personally if I were her I wouldn't want my child to live in the shadow
of someone elses.  To each is own but I think everyone deserves their
own name. Its like George Foreman naming all his sons George, its just
strange!

Just know that your angel belongs to you and nothing anyone says or
does will ever take that away.  Once I learned to own my greif as mine
I was able to control it instead of the other way around.  I let my
anger and frustrations fuel my passion to help others in similar
situations or through the March of Dimes work...avoid tragedy all
together.  I don't know why our babies died, we may never know.  I do
feel that because we are able to survive it, we have a higher purpose
to help others.

#833 From: Adrianne Alyce <annealyce@...>
Date: Fri Oct 17, 2008 5:53 pm
Subject: Re: [SHARE Atlanta Preg. & Newborn Loss Grief Support] TORN
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Hello Vanessa,
 
 It may be a common thing to reuse a name especially if it is a family name or a name that has meaning. I always wanted to name a son of mine Nathaniel since I was a teenager so when my little one was delivered and we found out he was a boy it was a no brainer Nathaniel was his name. Now that I have a living son a family member asked me why we didn't name him Nathaniel as well. I admit I do find it hard not to call my living son by his brother¢s name as it was so ingrained in my mind to call a little boy Nathaniel. I believe that parents who have lost a baby before also reuse the name either as a first or middle in memory of the baby who died or family reasons. It's not a bad thing but I can understand why for you it is pouring salt into an open womb. I am sure your ex is not naming his new son to spite you in anyway. Sometimes family obligations or intentions shape peoples choices.
 
I do not know why some babies die and others live. I know many people who do not make the best parents yet they seem to have loads of children and then others people who would make ideal parents and their babies die or they are not able to have them at all. Though it may be little comfort I chose to believe that a person¢s life and death have more to do with them then who their parents are.
 
I am so sorry that you are going through all of this so close to your sons¢ anniversary. I wish you peace.
 
Hugs,
 
Adrianne


--- On Fri, 10/17/08, Butterfly <princess_v55@...> wrote:
From: Butterfly <princess_v55@...>
Subject: [SHARE Atlanta Preg. & Newborn Loss Grief Support] TORN
To: shareatlantasupport@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, October 17, 2008, 12:02 PM

As most of you know I have my son's anniversary coming up. Well, I
just found out today that the father has another child due to be born
around that same time. To make matters worse it is a boy and they are
taking the first name of our child, which was the fathers first name
since my son was a Jr., and making it their son's middle name!

I have also been made aware that the child may be born with fluid on
his brain and may have either life long complications or might not
make it. I wish no harm on the child at all and I do not wish for
anyone to go through what we had to with losing a child.

I am so torn ... so hurt ... so confused. And I am asking God why
over and over again. From what I can gather he does not want anything
to do with the mother and she is the kind of mother that every other
week gets threatened from DFACS to have her children taken away from
her. He will be there for the child I know because he is a great
father and his children are his world but he wishes that she was not
the mother. So why would God take away our child, the one he wanted,
to have a child with THAT! It makes no sense!

I am just so torn, saddened, hurt, confused, angry ... words cannot
describe it all! And to make matters worse the anniversary approaching
with the father and I not speaking. I really cannot speak to him now!

Torn,
V


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#832 From: "Butterfly" <princess_v55@...>
Date: Fri Oct 17, 2008 4:14 pm
Subject: Re: Do angels age?
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I really think that young Angels do age. I have seen many shows where
mediums talk to parents who lost children and they seem to have aged.
  When I dream of my Angel son ... I notice how big he is getting.  In
my dreams I get to take care of him just like I would had he still
been with me on this earth.

Vanessa



--- In shareatlantasupport@yahoogroups.com, "allysa_luttrell"
<lunastar@...> wrote:
>
> I think it is about personal opinion. I think that whatever you
> imagine is what is best for you.
>
> For some reason I always imagine Ethan as like a 6 year old- but my
> loss was only 1.5 years ago. But that is just how I imagine him.
>
> For Christmas last year I donated age appropriate toys in memory of
> him and so I imagine this year I will donate something for a 1 and
> half year old and so forth but I think it is personal and up to you. I
> mean my husbands dad still likes Hot Wheels so if that is your
> preferred gift than I think it could be for any age for sure. To me it
> is just what you imagine or what makes you feel best.
>
> -Allysa
>
> --- In shareatlantasupport@yahoogroups.com, "Mindy" <msimmons1023@>
> wrote:
> >
> > I guess my question maybe more for those whose loss has been years
> > ago.  Do you think angels age?  My son's angelversary is coming up
> > 10/23 it will be 12 years.  My pseudo-sister asked me if when I leave
> > presents for Athen if I get him baby stuff or things appropriate
to the
> > age he would be?  I really didn't have an answer as my toy of choice
> > are hotwheels...the 37 yr old "boy" @ my house still enjoys those!  I
> > guess sometimes I still invision him in a permenant baby state,
mostly
> > I see him as growing up.  I had a psyhic reading about 2 yrs ago and
> > she told me he has taken on an older spirit of about 10 or 11 (the
age
> > he would have been at the time).  Anyhow, I was just curious what
your
> > opinon is????
> >
>

#831 From: "Butterfly" <princess_v55@...>
Date: Fri Oct 17, 2008 4:02 pm
Subject: TORN
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As most of you know I have my son's anniversary coming up.  Well, I
just found out today that the father has another child due to be born
around that same time.  To make matters worse it is a boy and they are
taking the first name of our child, which was the fathers first name
since my son was a Jr., and making it their son's middle name!

I have also been made aware that the child may be born with fluid on
his brain and may have either life long complications or might not
make it.  I wish no harm on the child at all and I do not wish for
anyone to go through what we had to with losing a child.

I am so torn ... so hurt ... so confused.  And I am asking God why
over and over again.  From what I can gather he does not want anything
to do with the mother and she is the kind of mother that every other
week gets threatened from DFACS to have her children taken away from
her.  He will be there for the child I know because he is a great
father and his children are his world but he wishes that she was not
the mother.  So why would God take away our child, the one he wanted,
to have a child with THAT!  It makes no sense!

I am just so torn, saddened, hurt, confused, angry ... words cannot
describe it all! And to make matters worse the anniversary approaching
  with the father and I not speaking.  I really cannot speak to him now!

Torn,
V

#830 From: "bettyboop8694" <bnbm@...>
Date: Thu Oct 16, 2008 9:00 pm
Subject: SA Family to be on TV this Sunday
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Set your DVRs...Betty, Brian & Joey were the SA/Northside Hospital
family interviewed for this show :o)
Please pass this on to anyone who may be interested!

October is National Pregnancy and Infant Loss Awareness Month!

Watch WSB-TV's People 2 People on Sunday, Oct. 19, 6:30 a.m., for a
story about perinatal loss and promoting Northside's Atlanta Walk to
Remember on Sunday.  Dr. Eliza Bruscato and a Northside family are
interviewed.

For more information or to register for the Walk to Remember, go to
www.atlantapnl.com or call (770) 442-8995.

#829 From: "allysa_luttrell" <lunastar@...>
Date: Wed Oct 15, 2008 3:03 pm
Subject: Re: Do angels age?
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I think it is about personal opinion. I think that whatever you
imagine is what is best for you.

For some reason I always imagine Ethan as like a 6 year old- but my
loss was only 1.5 years ago. But that is just how I imagine him.

For Christmas last year I donated age appropriate toys in memory of
him and so I imagine this year I will donate something for a 1 and
half year old and so forth but I think it is personal and up to you. I
mean my husbands dad still likes Hot Wheels so if that is your
preferred gift than I think it could be for any age for sure. To me it
is just what you imagine or what makes you feel best.

-Allysa

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> I guess my question maybe more for those whose loss has been years
> ago.  Do you think angels age?  My son's angelversary is coming up
> 10/23 it will be 12 years.  My pseudo-sister asked me if when I leave
> presents for Athen if I get him baby stuff or things appropriate to the
> age he would be?  I really didn't have an answer as my toy of choice
> are hotwheels...the 37 yr old "boy" @ my house still enjoys those!  I
> guess sometimes I still invision him in a permenant baby state, mostly
> I see him as growing up.  I had a psyhic reading about 2 yrs ago and
> she told me he has taken on an older spirit of about 10 or 11 (the age
> he would have been at the time).  Anyhow, I was just curious what your
> opinon is????
>

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Date: Tue Oct 14, 2008 11:00 pm
Subject: Women's Group, 10/15/2008, 7:00 pm
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#819 From: "Mindy" <msimmons1023@...>
Date: Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:50 pm
Subject: Do angels age?
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I guess my question maybe more for those whose loss has been years
ago.  Do you think angels age?  My son's angelversary is coming up
10/23 it will be 12 years.  My pseudo-sister asked me if when I leave
presents for Athen if I get him baby stuff or things appropriate to the
age he would be?  I really didn't have an answer as my toy of choice
are hotwheels...the 37 yr old "boy" @ my house still enjoys those!  I
guess sometimes I still invision him in a permenant baby state, mostly
I see him as growing up.  I had a psyhic reading about 2 yrs ago and
she told me he has taken on an older spirit of about 10 or 11 (the age
he would have been at the time).  Anyhow, I was just curious what your
opinon is????

#813 From: ayambri@...
Date: Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:51 pm
Subject: Prayer Included-Not meant to be offensive.
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Hello Everyone,

It is not my intent to offend anyone but while exchanging emails with another Share Mommy, Karmen Battle, she sent me an email which included this prayer. It has brought her a lot of comfort and after reading I can see why! I hope that it brings you all the same sense of peace that it has brought so many other Mommies in our situation.

Hugs to Everyone!
Maya


Lord, help me to know that You are enough. Take my eyes off of myself. Take my eyes off of the child I desire. Help me to delight myself in You. Mold the desires of my heart to be in line with Your will. I don't want to need to be a mother more than I need to be your humble, obedient child. I don't want wanting to have a baby to be a stumbling block between You and me anymore.
Lord, I want to give this desire, this drive, this ache up to You. Help me not to snatch it back as I so often do with the burdens I place in Your hands. Help me to be truly content with Your will and Your timing.
Lord, You know that I still desire a baby - someone to mold, teach, train, shape, guide, and help to grow in You. But until the day You give me that joyous blessing, help me to grow in You. Let me reach out to those around me. Let me witness and minister to the children You place in my path.
Lord, if adoption is the path You would have us take, prepare our hearts, and prepare the child who will share our home. If adoption is not Your will for our lives, keep me from pushing ahead of Your plan. Help me to stay submitted to my husband's will, and to Your will. If we are headed in the wrong direction, change our hearts.
Thank You for lifting my burden. Help me to keep You first! Let me seek Your face daily, and let me know that You are enough! amen


#812 From: shareatlantasupport@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat Oct 11, 2008 10:55 pm
Subject: Women's Group, 10/15/2008, 7:00 pm
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#810 From: Kaia Alderson <kaia_alderson@...>
Date: Sat Oct 4, 2008 2:26 am
Subject: Re: [SHARE Atlanta Preg. & Newborn Loss Grief Support] Baby Shower Invitiation & My Due Date
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One of my closest friend's baby shower was the weekend of my due date for Bakari. Luckily, it was in NJ. She really wanted me to come. I'd never been so happy to be broke <smile>.

She emailed her pictures and I thought I was ready to see them. But I cried. Everybody looked so happy but it just reminded me of the 2 baby showers I never got to have.

I was fortunate in that I had enough distractions going on that I didnt have the time to think about it too much.

But I just had a moment myself. Tonight was the premiere of the new Star Wars cartoon and I'm a huge  fan. It would have been nice to have Bakari here so we could watch it together and make it our "thing".

Sending you a hug,
Kaia
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Subject: [SHARE Atlanta Preg. & Newborn Loss Grief Support] Baby Shower Invitiation & My Due Date
To: shareatlantasupport@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 11:25 AM

Hello Everyone,

I hope that this email finds you all in good health and spirits.

September 30, 2007 was my due date for my baby, I lost him in April of 2007 though.

I was doing pretty good this week, I got a little upset actually the day after the 30th, but all in all ok. However, yesterday I received a baby shower invite from someone who is not necessarily a friend but like a friend through the family. Her mothers knew of my loss though, and she knows of my new baby shower policy. Needless to say, I get home yesterday, check my mail and see a card. I thought is someone sending me a birthday card this early? I turn it over to see who it is from, I don't recognize the address but see a sticker that says baby shower. I almost broke down right there at the mailbox. I should have thrown it away right then...I don't know why I didn't. But, I carried it into my house and opened it....to add insult to injury, it was the SAME invitation/theme that my friends were going to use for my own babyshower.

Has anyone had anything like this happen to them? If so, what did you do to cope?

I know that throughout this journey of life, there are always going to be reminders of my little boy, and what could have been...but how did you all deal with it?

Thanks and I hope everyone has a great weekend.

Maya
"Gabrielle's Mommy"



#809 From: Adrianne Alyce <annealyce@...>
Date: Fri Oct 3, 2008 4:05 pm
Subject: Re: [SHARE Atlanta Preg. & Newborn Loss Grief Support] Baby Shower Invitiation & My Due Date
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Dear Maya and Karmin,
 
I have been fortunate that my family and friends were respectful of my loss and baby showers/ birthdays. My sister lives out of the country so when she had her little girl a short time after my due date she contacted the family via e-mail. Both she and my aunt saved pictures of my niece and made sure I didn't receive the floating e-mails until I was ready to see/deal with them.
 
There is nothing wrong with telling your friends and family that this is not something you want to deal with right now. You may be surprised and find that they will respect where you are right now. If they do not,  don't worry about it. You need to take care of your own mental well being. Now is the time to take care of you. One day it will not be as hard to see pictures of babies it may take years. Honestly I think I still have a hard time going to baby showers and birthday parties for little boys. Something I personally will be working on but I am giving myself as much time as I need even it it does sound a little weird now.


#808 From: Karmen Battle <kfbattle@...>
Date: Fri Oct 3, 2008 3:46 pm
Subject: Re: [SHARE Atlanta Preg. & Newborn Loss Grief Support] Baby Shower Invitiation & My Due Date
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Hi Maya,
 
I haven't had to deal with any baby shower invitations since the loss of my little Antoine however I have received photo upon photo upon photo through email of my friends little boy who was born only a few months before my baby boy was due.  I love my friend dearly and I know that she's proud of her children however it's just difficult.  You don't know what to say or how to respond or what to do to get people to understand and I guess it comes across as being ugly or selfish or whatever if we don't respond in any type of way that is not considered overly joyous and happy.
 
It hurts and I feel my heart break every time I see a new photo of her little boy because it's a constant reminder of where my Antoine would be at this stage in his life and what he would have looked like.  He would have been 4 months old now.  But I don't have the heart to tell her that it's difficult for me to see her baby's pictures so I normally just read the email and not open the photos or I skim them quickly and send a reply telling her how big he's getting.  I just don't have the courage to tell her.  I wish that I could care as much about myself and my feelings as I do hers... 
 
I don't know... I will read the replies to your post to see if I can pick up on some pointers as well on how to cope!
 
Karmen
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Subject: [SHARE Atlanta Preg. & Newborn Loss Grief Support] Baby Shower Invitiation & My Due Date
To: shareatlantasupport@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 11:25 AM

Hello Everyone,

I hope that this email finds you all in good health and spirits.

September 30, 2007 was my due date for my baby, I lost him in April of 2007 though.

I was doing pretty good this week, I got a little upset actually the day after the 30th, but all in all ok. However, yesterday I received a baby shower invite from someone who is not necessarily a friend but like a friend through the family. Her mothers knew of my loss though, and she knows of my new baby shower policy. Needless to say, I get home yesterday, check my mail and see a card. I thought is someone sending me a birthday card this early? I turn it over to see who it is from, I don't recognize the address but see a sticker that says baby shower. I almost broke down right there at the mailbox. I should have thrown it away right then...I don't know why I didn't. But, I carried it into my house and opened it....to add insult to injury, it was the SAME invitation/theme that my friends were going to use for my own babyshower.

Has anyone had anything like this happen to them? If so, what did you do to cope?

I know that throughout this journey of life, there are always going to be reminders of my little boy, and what could have been...but how did you all deal with it?

Thanks and I hope everyone has a great weekend.

Maya
"Gabrielle's Mommy"


#807 From: ayambri@...
Date: Fri Oct 3, 2008 3:25 pm
Subject: Baby Shower Invitiation & My Due Date
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Hello Everyone,

I hope that this email finds you all in good health and spirits.

September 30, 2007 was my due date for my baby, I lost him in April of 2007 though.

I was doing pretty good this week, I got a little upset actually the day after the 30th, but all in all ok. However, yesterday I received a baby shower invite from someone who is not necessarily a friend but like a friend through the family. Her mothers knew of my loss though, and she knows of my new baby shower policy. Needless to say, I get home yesterday, check my mail and see a card. I thought is someone sending me a birthday card this early? I turn it over to see who it is from, I don't recognize the address but see a sticker that says baby shower. I almost broke down right there at the mailbox. I should have thrown it away right then...I don't know why I didn't. But, I carried it into my house and opened it....to add insult to injury, it was the SAME invitation/theme that my friends were going to use for my own babyshower.

Has anyone had anything like this happen to them? If so, what did you do to cope?

I know that throughout this journey of life, there are always going to be reminders of my little boy, and what could have been...but how did you all deal with it?

Thanks and I hope everyone has a great weekend.

Maya
"Gabrielle's Mommy"

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Subject: Men & Womens Group, 10/3/2008, 7:30 pm
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#805 From: Adrianne Alyce <annealyce@...>
Date: Wed Oct 1, 2008 1:59 pm
Subject: Re: [SHARE Atlanta Preg. & Newborn Loss Grief Support] Re: Dear Friends,
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Dear Amanda,
 
I don't know if it gets easier but at least for me I think I may be more accepting of the fact that my son is no longer with us. The pain is no longer intense like it was that first year. You are at your 6 month mark. For me and I think a lot of moms that is when the shock wears off and the deep pain sets in. I mean there was always pain but around the 6 month mark was the hardest for me. Perhaps because I was at my due date during that time. I use to say "if I can just make it past my expected due date I'll feel better". Well I did and then all of the other milestones kept passing. His first month, his first birthday/anniversary. I miss not being able to do the things with him that I do with my other children. Again, that first year was rough but somehow we get through it and the next and the one after that. I hope that it does get easier for you at some point. Please be gentle with yourself.
 
Hugs,
 
Adrianne

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Subject: [SHARE Atlanta Preg. & Newborn Loss Grief Support] Re: Dear Friends,
To: shareatlantasupport@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 8:43 PM

Hugs to you as you approach a bittersweet birthday. I am so sorry
that you are struggling right now. I am approaching the 6 month
anniversary of Gavin's birth and 5 month anniversary of his passing.
It just doesn't get any easier, does it? I hope that the day is
gentle on you. Happy birthday Avery Corinne.

Blessings,
Amanda

--- In shareatlantasupport @yahoogroups. com, willmythrill
<willmythrill@ ...> wrote:
>
> I know it's been a long time, since I've written to any of you, but
the wonderful gift of our connection is that we understand the highs
and lows without explanation.  You've all been on my mind and there's
much I'd like to say tonight, but my tears outnumber the words.  It's
that time of year again - Avery Corinne's second birthday is at the
end of the month and I still ache for that warmth all of you know too
well of which I speak.
>
> I will keep this short, but I wanted to share a poem with you that
M.E.N.D. (Mothers Enduring Neonatal Death) published.  I was
surprised at the response I got from a few writer friends before
submitting it.  For me, I just wanted to say, "Happy Birthday, Avery
Corinne!  Mommy & Daddy Love You!"
>
> I'd also like to dedicate this to Kimberly.  I'm sorry for your
loss, honey.  You have and will encounter an incredible group of
women through SA.  There are no odd or inappropriate  questions or
comments, just open your heart...someone is always listening.  God
Bless!
>
>
>
> Still
>
> (In loving memory of Avery Corinne Hildreth, October 29, 2006 –
October 29, 2006)
>  
>  
> There remains a silence inside my womb,
> Once ripe with you;
> My body misses that sacred heaviness,
> Until it betrayed us both;
> Your passage was almost complete.
> No celebration of your genesis,
> Only masked strangers who severed,
> The awaiting quiet circle of your origin;
> Nightly, I coddle myself with images of rocking you while praying:
> "Now I lay me down to sleep,
> I pray the Lord, my soul to keep..."
>  
>                                                                     
               
>  
>                                                                     
                                          Copyright 2008 © T. Jarmon
Hildreth
>



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