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#1156 From: shareatlantasupport@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu Apr 2, 2009 11:27 pm
Subject: Men & Womens Group, 4/3/2009, 7:30 pm
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#1155 From: shareatlantasupport@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed Apr 1, 2009 4:08 am
Subject: SHARE ATLANTA Grief Forum’s Etiquette 2, 4/1/2009, 12:00 am
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Title:   SHARE ATLANTA Grief Forum’s Etiquette 2
 
Date:   Wednesday April 1, 2009
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Notes:   RESPONDING TO INAPPROPRIATE POSTS:
1) If you feel that someone has made an inappropriate post, please contact a moderator about your concerns. In many cases the post was made without thinking and the thread will die out quickly if ignored on-list. If you respond on-list with a complaint, you will most likely only exacerbate the problem.
2) When you see an inappropriate post that has little response to it, remember that you only see what was posted to the list. The poster likely received private messages pointing out their mistake, and a moderator may also have emailed them privately.
3) Moderators may remove any post that is inappropriate.
4) If you feel compelled to make a formal complaint to the moderator, do so off-list and include specific information: the name and/or e-mail address of the offending poster, the specific content you find offensive. The moderator will not accept vague complaints.
5) Most likely, issues of decorum will be self-correcting among the adults on this list. We hope that the need for intervention by a moderator continues to occur sparingly. Failure to comply with list etiquette may result in being placed on moderated status. Habitually offensive or easily offended people will be emailed by the moderator. It is possible for the moderator to place a poster to “may not post” status, without notice and indefinitely. This usually will occur when someone has entered the forum who does not belong there (as demonstrated by the nature of his/her posts.).
*Moderated status does not rescind posting privileges but allows SHARE Atlanta moderators to approve messages prior to posting them.

REMEMBER:
This list is archived, and all your messages will be available for others to examine for as long as this list exists. We want new members to be able to read through our thoughts and comments for years to come. We learn and grow together. Thank you for your kind support and respect of one another.

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#1154 From: shareatlantasupport@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed Apr 1, 2009 4:01 am
Subject: SHARE ATLANTA Grief Forum’s Etiquette, 4/1/2009, 12:00 am
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Date:   Wednesday April 1, 2009
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Notes:   A GUIDE TO EFFECTIVE AND CONSIDERATE LIST MEMBERSHIP

1. We are here to heal. Please respect other people’s grief.
2. Remember that we have all been hurt by the death of our baby(ies). This is a safe haven to express our grief and to help others that are new in their grief walk.
3. This is not a debate group. Everyone has their own grief walk. Do not be judgmental of other people’s opinions.
4. SA is nondenominational. SHARE Atlanta members represent a broad array of religious beliefs and political views. Spirituality is part of the healing process. SA is open to sharing spiritual views as healing happens. Discussion of religious feelings can happen as long as we do not judge or become critical of one another’s beliefs. In the meetings, since we all are in one room, the facilitator is careful to point out that no one philosophy is encouraged. This is also true for our forum, and each person can ignore or delete those posts that do not embrace their beliefs. No accusations should be made that one belief is better than another. We can learn from each other if we protect the personal space and beliefs of each member. The death of our baby causes many to examine, embrace, or enhance their spirituality. For many there is much comfort from their faith. So it is important to be able to discuss and explore our thoughts without fear of being judged. To protect those who do not wish to enter into a religious topic, please include "Religious" in the subject line if the post focuses on religious thoughts, poems, or stories. Political views are inappropriate for this list.
5. Do not post chain emails. We do not wish to post other people’s emails on our forum. If you want to send poems, stories, etc, that is fine. Include just the story or poem – no additional thoughts or comments made in a chain note.
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#1153 From: shareatlantasupport@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun Mar 29, 2009 11:26 pm
Subject: Men & Womens Group, 4/3/2009, 7:30 pm
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#1152 From: shareatlantasupport@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue Mar 17, 2009 10:55 pm
Subject: Women's Group, 3/18/2009, 7:00 pm
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#1151 From: "Marcia" <marciahm@...>
Date: Mon Mar 16, 2009 10:41 pm
Subject: SHARE Atlanta's 2009 March of Dimes' Campaign!! from SA's Team Captain, Cindy
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HELLO Team SHARE Atlanta...we are off to a "slow" start of reaching our goal of
$40,000 right now we have raised $6792.00 BUT I still have "faith" that, like in
years past, we will pull this off in the end!!

If all goes well, I should start my NEW position with Farm Bureau Insurance on
April 1, 2009~wish me luck~it will be my 1st time as a working Mother of 2
Little People and I am hoping that it is an easy transition for Caden (4),
Presley (2) & Me!

For now, I need U-S to FUNDRAISE, FUNDRAISE & FUNDRAISE!! Online, in-person, via
US Mail...whatever works for you!

Please feel free to contact me with any questions or problems that you may be
having. I will be back in touch ASAP.

http://www.shareatlanta.org/legacy/mods09info.htm  SA MODS' Info. You can donate
to our TEAM!!! or to any member who is marching.

THANK YOU from the bottom of my heart for helping me, help the March of Dimes,
help the babies!

Cindy "Gillespie" Ivey

SHARE Atlanta Mom

SHARE Atlanta "march for babies" Team Captain

cynthiaivey@...

FOREVER IN OUR HEARTS
Lacey MaKenna Ivey
September 16, 2003

Angie, even though you can't walk that day~you can still help us raise money!!

Tina, Caden has a game the morning of the walk so that messes up my "bring the
family" plan~just an fyi!

My personal web page address for donations is ...

http://www.marchforbabies.org/InMemoryofLacey

Would you like to see what March for Babies is and why I'm walking?
Click http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5P_dFD0J47I to see the video.

The March of Dimes mission is to improve the health of babies by preventing
birth defects, premature birth, and infant mortality.

#1150 From: "Marcia" <marciahm@...>
Date: Mon Mar 16, 2009 7:52 pm
Subject: SHARE Atlanta Updates 3.16.09 and Women's Group on Wednesday 3.18.09
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Dear Group Members,

Upcoming Meetings:

Women's Meeting Wednesday, March 18 from 7 to 9 pm.  For Directions to Women's
Group email Marcia...marciahm@...

The topic for March is "Grief and Your Relationships."  We talk about how your
grief touches EVERY relationship that you have (from how your respond to
yourself to each and everyone you know...and some you don't know!).  We will
discuss why this is, what this means to us, and how to cope with other's
comments (often hurtful when they don't really mean to be) or the lack of
support from others.  Also, we will share how some of the people around us are
supportive and ways to encourage them and to thank them.  We will have our
brochure for Friends and Family here for you to take to them as well.  We will
have our March memento - to catch the wind!

April's topic at both meetings is Grief and Future Choices.  Grief influences
every choice we make.  We will talk about the reasons behind this and ways to
work with this situation.  We talk about going to talk with our doctor, a high
risk specialist (if our loss was near the middle to end of our pregnancy), an
infertility specialist (if we had repeated miscarriage, one miscarriage, early
loss before 14 weeks) and about discussing a birth plan with our OB.  Finding a
doctor that connects with us on EVERY level for our subsequent pregnancy is
critical.  Often it means changing doctors or including a specialist that knows
the issues inside and out - that might touch us.

We talk with our doctors BEFORE we get pregnant again.  Then, we are not caught
up in the hormones and emotions of being pregnant.  We establish our baseline
for what to expect next time so we can know that we are doing all we can. 
Often, even when our primary care doctor has said there is nothing to do, a
specialist (who has seen many, many similar situations...unlike a typical OB)
can often suggest prevention and intervention before we ever become pregnant as
well as ideas for during pregnancy.  Then, we can feel more reassured as we
approach the next part of our journey.

Joining us:

We have missed seeing some of you very much.  Often parents will feel as though
they have missed a few (or a lot) of group gatherings and think it odd to come
join us again.  Some parents rejoin us after they have had a subsequent
child-especially if they got pregnant soon after their loss.   We have members
come by at anniversaries, due dates, holidays, at the difficult 4 to 6 month
time after a loss, at significant or difficult times anytime after their loss. 
There is no time limit on the grief process.  The need to understand "where I am
now" in the process is a real experience. Being a group that has been here for
24 years is positive.  Parents know that grief can pop up at all kinds of times
and we are here for them. (We have 11 different Grief booklets so during the
first year, each of our topics has a different booklet to review.)

We never question your attendance at any of our events; this is up to you and
your schedule.  We realize that many of our members travel or take night classes
and time is limited.  Some have babysitting issues.  Others need "a time out" to
find their own space, then feel like they wish to rejoin us.  This is a normal
reaction - one many of us went through.  I had one single mom express that she
worried that she might not fit-in.  Some of our most special members and
volunteers have been single moms.  We are here to care about the issues
surrounding grief...not our marital status.  As a manner of fact, we have a
special place on our website for single parents and one of our forum volunteers
is a single mom.  We care about all of our members.

Relationships are important.  Often because of the the immediate people around
them, moms feel as though no one else could really be going through what they
are going through.  Also, those around you sometimes act like you should move on
and not need "that group" any more.  There are so many situations that happen to
us after the tragic loss of a baby that these feel like a valid reasons for not
joining a meeting or activity.

The truth is that most of us are put into a situation that doesn't resemble
anything that ever has happened to us before.  We have unusual feelings and
reactions - often much more intense and confusing than we could imagine.  We
sometimes wonder who we are now that our baby has died.  Most of our friends and
family do not understand what we are going through.  They hope (and we hope)
that by denying or ignoring our need to grieve and to work with our feelings, we
will move on.  Most often this doesn't totally work.  That is why coming to the
group, an event, or on our website/forum can be very helpful...we meet others
who TOTALLY get it.

No manner where you are; how long it has been; or your latest feelings...please
feel comfortable about joining us.  As one of our now volunteers wrote to me:

"SHARE Atlanta helped keep me from drowning in my sea of grief. You made me feel
normal in my grief, and you helped me see that eventually life would once again,
be worth living. I just wanted you to know that I hold you in the highest esteem
and I thank you from the bottom of my heart for all you do." Leah, A SHARE
Atlanta Parent, 12/2004

Memorial Bricks:
http://shareatlanta.org/legacy/pathformprt.htm -  May 1st is the date for
getting your memorial brick order to Jennifer - Order Online

SHARE Atlanta's March of Dime's Campaign as we "Walk to Remember Our Babies":

We also are moving along in our March of Dimes campaign.  For many this is an
activity where they can take their grief and do something "in action."  Friends
and family often are anxious to support those who have recently experienced a
lost - they want to support them in some way.  The MODs has made this a very
easy activity to be part of.  Our SHARE Atlanta Team is #562 and you can join us
downtown or anywheres and still raise money for SA.  Doing this can give you and
others hope for the future.  It is an important part of SHARE Atlanta's advocacy
and awareness program.  We want others to understand our issues and needs so we
will have more community support.  The walk is April 25th at our downtown walk
site, and because of our fundraising efforts last year - SHARE Atlanta has its
own tent!

http://www.shareatltanta.org/legacy/mods09info Information about March of Dimes
and SA  Team Captain..."Cindy Ivey" <cynthiaivey@...>,

We support you:

Whatever you choose, know that we at SHARE Atlanta support you.  I wish that I
could call each one of you and personally talk with you.  This email is my/ our
effort to connect with you and let you know we care very much about you.  If you
will join me/us at our groups, events, or on our forum, we can see each other
and chat.  Usually, you will meet others who wish to talk with you. Many of our
members become forever friends!  We are here as you need us and are thinking of
you.

If you have any thoughts, ideas, or concerns..please know you can email me.  If
you wish to chat on the phone, send me your phone number and I will call you!

Take care,
Marcia
The love stays...forever in our hearts.
http://www.shareatltanta.org/legacy/main.htm

Helpful SHARE Atlanta Links:

http://www.shareatltanta.org/legacy/directions2.htm  Directions and times to our
meetings (Topics are the same for each meeting...the men/women meetings are
RSVP.  We also have a subsequent pregnancy group for those who are pregnant once
again.)
http://www.shareatltanta.org/legacy/forum.htm  Our forum is now being monitored
by: Adrianne and Crystal.
http://www.shareatltanta.org/legacy/griefmenu.htm  Grief process - supportive
thoughts and stories from SA members...
http://www.shareatltanta.org/legacy/joanndiarya.htm JoAnn's Diary - JoAnn's
emails to me during that first year or so after her loss..
parentpart.htm  Ideas for parents

#1149 From: shareatlantasupport@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat Mar 14, 2009 10:55 pm
Subject: Women's Group, 3/18/2009, 7:00 pm
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#1148 From: "Crystal" <ladybug_30340@...>
Date: Fri Mar 6, 2009 7:41 pm
Subject: Re: Horrible comments
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Hi Angie,

I am so sorry that your brother-in-law felt it necessary to comment on your
pictures of your twins.  I have no words for people who feel they must put their
comment on things that need no comments from anyone.  If he feels that strongly
about your pictures, he doesn't have to look.  I do not understand how he could
compare your pictures of your beloved babies to PETA's pictures of abused
animals.  There is NOTHING shocking about your children's pictures: and that
goes for any parent who has heard this.  I was told it was inappropriate for me
to have taken pictures of my son, CJ, after he had died.  I used them at his
funeral, for the family who was unable to make it to the hospital, to see what
my son had looked like.  I did not care who said what or how they felt; if they
did not want to see his face, they did not have to look.  Sometimes, people who
didn't know what your child(ren) looked like are shocked and feel as though they
must tell someone how they felt.  It is pointless and hurtful to the parent(s). 
I can understand why your husband feels the need to apologize for his "few
words" with his brother but I also DEFINITELY understand your stance, as well.

I do not think you are wrong for you to feel slighted and hurt by your husband's
brother's words; it was uncalled for and I hope that he comes to the
understanding that your pictures are not to garner sympathy or give anyone a
shock, nor is it to gain more money by sympathy.  I am appalled and disheartened
that someone who should care about your feelings was so insensitive.  I know
what it feels like to have someone you care for and who is supposed to care for
you can make you feel with their words.  It just never makes any kind of sense
to me why people feel the need to comment on something that they should know is
painful for us (parents of the angel babies) to handle.  Give yourself a big hug
for having the courage to share your children with the world.  I applaud you for
creating a MOD walk site in memory of your children.  Keep your head up and
remember we all support you in this endeavor.

Hugs to you both,
Crystal

#1147 From: shareatlantasupport@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri Mar 6, 2009 12:25 am
Subject: Men & Womens Group, 3/6/2009, 7:30 pm
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#1146 From: marciahm@...
Date: Wed Mar 4, 2009 9:50 pm
Subject: Re: [SHARE Atlanta Preg. & Newborn Loss Grief Support] Re: I signed up!!
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Yea, Shellon!  It isn't hard and doing it for your two girls is wonderful!  We will all be down there to offer hugs and good will on April 25.
Mindy has a great memory!  Cheryl was the mom and she really was pleased to be part of SA. It was a dear, dear story.  Her daughter would have had her birthday on the day of the walk.  She didn't have support 20 plus years ago and was greatly touched by what we all were doing.  She was pleased to donate her money in memory of her daughter.

So, you are now on the SA TEAM with Mindy and I and about 25 others...  When a parent donates to you and they do so in memory of their baby, keep their baby's name and date for us.  We put them all in our Memory Corner under the SA TENT.  Anyone who is reading this and would like to join us, email Cindy Ivey, our team captain. "Cindy Ivey" <cynthiaivey@...> and/or visit our website..
http://www.shareatlanta.org/legacy/mods09info.htm  SA's MODS 2009 Campaign!!

Take care,
Marcia
The love stays...forever in our hearts.


-----Original Message-----
From: Mindy
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To: shareatlantasupport@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [SHARE Atlanta Preg. & Newborn Loss Grief Support] Re: I signed up!!

Shellon
Good for you! It can be scary to "go public" with your grief. I remember when I did the walk the first time (5 years ago) I felt the same way. I have found turning my grief into this positive thing to be so healing. I have met and gotten to know so many great people in my walk. Last year, we had a Mom stop by the our tent who had never heard of Share Atlanta. She made a heart for the memorial tree and asked if she could transfer her fundraising to our team total. This event is so powerful and I can't think of a better way to honor our angels!

See you there!


#1145 From: Angie Hernandez <therapist_ng@...>
Date: Wed Mar 4, 2009 8:34 pm
Subject: Re: [SHARE Atlanta Preg. & Newborn Loss Grief Support] Re: Horrible comments
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Mindy,
 
thank you so much for the donation... Oct 23 will always be a special/sad day...
 
Marcia,
 
thank you for the encouraging words, I'll probably will write him an email once I'm more level headed
 
Angie

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From: Mindy <msimmons1023@...>
Subject: [SHARE Atlanta Preg. & Newborn Loss Grief Support] Re: Horrible comments
To: shareatlantasupport@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, March 4, 2009, 10:10 AM

Angie I'm sorry you are going through this. People's mouths and brains aren't always connected. Marcia is right though, this is why our work is so important. I'm sorry that your bil doesn't understand that while he may see the pictures as shocking, all you see is your precious babies. When I checked out your MOD page and learned that your accident was on October 23rd, I felt a connection. My son's angelversary is October 23rd. I really beleive our babies have away of bringing us together. So I added $10 to your total. I look forward to seeing you at this years walk. It is such a powerful healing tool for us all.



#1144 From: "Mindy" <msimmons1023@...>
Date: Wed Mar 4, 2009 8:01 pm
Subject: Re: I signed up!!
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Shellon
  Good for you!  It can be scary to "go public" with your grief.  I remember when
I did the walk the first time (5 years ago) I felt the same way.  I have found
turning my grief into this positive thing to be so healing.  I have met and
gotten to know so many great people in my walk.  Last year, we had a Mom stop by
the our tent who had never heard of Share Atlanta.  She made a heart for the
memorial tree and asked if she could transfer her fundraising to our team total.
This event is so powerful and I can't think of a better way to honor our angels!

See you there!

#1143 From: "shellonblanch" <sbclarke71@...>
Date: Wed Mar 4, 2009 6:47 pm
Subject: I signed up!!
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Hi Everyone,
Well I just went ahead and did it!  I created a March of Dimes page and I'm
going to be their for the walk.  I really was scared to do it and do the
fundraising thing because I still keep my grief very close to my "vest".  But
I'm doing it for both my girls Zuri and Aliyah.  I'll see you downtown.

Shellon

#1142 From: "Mindy" <msimmons1023@...>
Date: Wed Mar 4, 2009 3:39 pm
Subject: Re: Horrible comments
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Marcia

I think your idea for the candles is wonderful!  You know for so many of us
certain scents remind us of our little ones and can help us feel connected to
them.  For me its autumn rain, both my children where born on late rainy October
nights.  So whenever its cold and rainy and I smell fireplaces and cinnamon I
think of the love I have for my children both my heavenly angel Athen and my
earth angel Bailey.

#1141 From: "Marcia" <marciahm@...>
Date: Wed Mar 4, 2009 3:35 pm
Subject: March 27th SA Cobb Wellstar Inservice..Info.
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Dear All..I post this so all here can see the inservice success that SA has had.
I post this to let you know that our Advocacy and Awareness that we promote both
for individuals AND for inservices DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE.  We have been doing
inservices for 23 years!! (Participating in our Outreach for Healing Programs
also promote support..4Bs, March of Dimes, memorial services, etc.) I am
grateful to everyone who makes an effort on whatever level to bring our issues
to others...

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Dear All,

Here is a recent email that I received last month...

" Our Bereavement Committee has done a lot of education of our staff, but the
SHARE Atlanta Conferences bring you to another level. I had the opportunity to
attend the SHARE Atlanta conference at our sister facility, Kennestone. (Feb.
2008) It was one of the best conferences I have attended. If you could let me
know the process of scheduling a conference, I would greatly appreciate it. Have
A Great Day!

Andrea Dotson-Gray, GSW/LMSW
WellStar Cobb Hospital
Women's Center Social Worker"

I/we am/are going to be giving another (our 4th) 2 hour presentation at the
Wellstar Developmental Center off of I-75 on Windy Hill on March 27 from 2 to 4
pm.  I know the time isn't great, but it is what they wanted us to have so we
could do 2 hours.  We usually speak to around 60 to 80 nurses/social workers
during these inservices. Many are new in their profession, but others are
gathering CEUs.  They represent hospitals from all over the Atlanta/GA area.  It
is an excellent venue to get the word out!!

I will be presenting our power point as we have in the past both there and at
inservices such as Kennestone.  I would love to have at least one or two moms or
dads who could share with the audience as we to through the pp.  I will carry
the program, but will invite comments and ideas for what helped you in the
hospital, etc.  It also helps the audience to see that healing does happen and
how SA supports that healing.

I usually suggest that parents have been through their first year before joining
us for inservices.  But, sometimes, a parent will feel as though this is
something they really wish to do before that first year is complete.  If this is
your situation, we can talk about if it will work for you.  We have enough
members so I NEVER want ANY parent to feel they HAVE to participate to make an
inservice happen.  That isn't true with our group.

Below is a recent transaction between a bereaved mom and SA about Cobb Hospital.
Cobb with the help of SA volunteer Coretta Monroe and the SA inservices they
have attended are a clear and wonderful example of a nursing staff that takes
care of their bereaved parents.  I sent this note to Andrea and she was pleased
to realize that what they are doing is working!  (Coretta took our 2008 memorial
tree to Cobb and they have decided to keep it in the room that they have for
newly bereaved parents.)

"Marcia,
Believe it or not the hospital Social Services Dept-Wellstar Cobb was very
helpful with everything; we appreciate them so much.  They gave me a Certificate
of Birth, locks of her hair, hand/foot prints, a SHARE Atlanta pamphlet, blanket
and outfit, (even though I had a blanket, and clothes) it just allowed us to
change outfits for the pictures.  SHARE Atlanta has been a big help for me and I
continue to read the pamphlet to keep me going."

So, please help me make another inservice opportunity our best step for advocacy
and awareness!!

Take care,
Marcia
The love stays...forever in our hearts.
http://www.shareatlanta.org/legacy/SAoutreachbooklets.htm  Find out what all SA
members do, and how you can be part of SA...all in memory and honor of your
baby.

#1140 From: marciahm@...
Date: Wed Mar 4, 2009 3:14 pm
Subject: Re: [SHARE Atlanta Preg. & Newborn Loss Grief Support] Re: Horrible comments
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Mindy,

You are so appreciated.  Thank you for being YOU!!

I am thinking about giving your candles for our Mother's Day gift at our May meeting.  What do you think?  I thought moms could choose their favorite scent.

Together, we keep on making a difference, don't we...

Take care,
Marcia
The love stays..forever in our hearts.


-----Original Message-----
From: Mindy
Sent: Mar 4, 2009 10:10 AM
To: shareatlantasupport@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [SHARE Atlanta Preg. & Newborn Loss Grief Support] Re: Horrible comments

Angie I'm sorry you are going through this. People's mouths and brains aren't always connected. Marcia is right though, this is why our work is so important. I'm sorry that your bil doesn't understand that while he may see the pictures as shocking, all you see is your precious babies. When I checked out your MOD page and learned that your accident was on October 23rd, I felt a connection. My son's angelversary is October 23rd. I really beleive our babies have away of bringing us together. So I added $10 to your total. I look forward to seeing you at this years walk. It is such a powerful healing tool for us all.


#1139 From: "Mindy" <msimmons1023@...>
Date: Wed Mar 4, 2009 3:10 pm
Subject: Re: Horrible comments
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Angie I'm sorry you are going through this.  People's mouths and brains aren't
always connected.  Marcia is right though, this is why our work is so important.
I'm sorry that your bil doesn't understand that while he may see the pictures as
shocking, all you see is your precious babies.  When I checked out your MOD page
and learned that your accident was on October 23rd, I felt a connection.  My
son's angelversary is October 23rd.  I really beleive our babies have away of
bringing us together.  So I added $10 to your total.  I look forward to seeing
you at this years walk. It is such a powerful healing tool for us all.

#1138 From: marciahm@...
Date: Wed Mar 4, 2009 2:43 pm
Subject: Re: [SHARE Atlanta Preg. & Newborn Loss Grief Support] Horrible comments
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Angie,

I am truly sorry for this latest situation.  It is interesting to me that our pain even shared with those who haven't been here is too much for THEM to handle.  I have had a few nurses at inservices ask me why we show the video of families whose babies have died...it is too hard for them to watch!!!  And, these are the nurses who are in high risk ob!!!  (Most are very positive about the same video and say it helped them to better appreciate the agony of parents and how TLC and parenting their babies can make a difference.)

Your bil is shocked  because he can't wrap his mind around all that you have been through.  I have had nurses surprised by our tiny babies.  These are very real children and precious to us.  His comparison to Peta was very unfair and, in my opinion, very unkind.  He has the right to say he found the picture difficult to take in.  It IS difficult for all of us to take in.  But, to compare ANYTHING to Peta is just unkind.  Your babies were loved and wanted.  No comment would have been best.  But, often people react in the extreme when they don't know what to say...weird but true.  I feel very sad about that fact because painful situations can happen as a result.

Please know that in what we do we continue to educate others on so many levels.  Many don't even realize that babies are all formed by 8 to 10 weeks.  The next 30 weeks they grow and become stronger so they can live independent of mom's placenta.  So, as we gradually help others understand where we are coming from, they, too, must grow in understanding.  It isn't easy for ANY of us.

I would not confront him in person.  You might consider writing him an email saying something like.. that you appreciate that the loss of your twins is hard for everyone to grieve and to understand.  You placed the pictures on the MODS website because you love your twins and they are precious in God's eye.  You are their parents and they your children.  Just as any parent would want to share their child, you want to share your twins with others.  If he was uncomfortable in any way in seeing the picture, he need not return to the site.  But, in coming, sharing, and then donating in their memory, he and others have given much love and support to you and your husband.  It means a great deal to you.  You hope that no one else in your family or friendships will ever have to suffer such a tragic loss, but if they do, they might have a better understanding of what this means as a result of being part of your experience.  Every child is a blessing. 

Only do this if this is how you feel AND if you can do it not in anger.  Yes, you are angry, and he is way off base with his Peta comment.  I would not confront him with it, but let him know how special your babies are...and that, like he and his wife are parents to his living son, you are parents to your twins.

You could even write it and never send it unless he goes there again.  That way, you have explored your own feelings in a deeper way, too.

Again, I am sorry this has happened.  But, sadly, it is part of our experience.  You are correct, the more we support how we feel and not let others dictate how THEY THINK we should feel, the stronger we are and become. (Remember few really understand Pregnancy and Newborn Loss Grief Issues)  The more our issues are understood and supported, the fewer battles every bereaved parent will have to face.  In 23 years of doing this, I have seen us come a LONG ways.  I believe in being KIND, FIRM, SINCERE, and DECISIVE on what we believe when we talk with others.  But, it takes time for us and them to grow and understand the true issues and needs of bereaved parents.  We ARE making huge progress, though, thanks to our own internal discussions and support.

Just my thoughts...open to discussion....

Take care
Marcia
The love stays...forever in our hearts.








-----Original Message-----
From: therapist_ng
Sent: Mar 3, 2009 4:18 PM
To: shareatlantasupport@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [SHARE Atlanta Preg. & Newborn Loss Grief Support] Horrible comments

Hi all,

So it's happened again... people talking without thinking... My
brother in law visited my MOD walk site and donated. I emailed him a
special thank you and he decides to share with my husband that my
twin's picture was innapropriate. That if we were doing it for "shock
value" to raise more money or to put it in peoples face we succeeded.
He then starts comparing it to PETA's website were they show pics of
animals that were abused. My husband told him a few words but I don't
feel it was enough because he then apologized for it. I had told my
husband that I'm tired of making excuses for people, that I will not
listen to a comment and pretend it doesn't hurt. I've had it happen
many times and no matter how emotional I get I try to stay level
headed and tell the "idiot" (sorry) how wrong they are. I feel that
way they know better next time not to do it and to save another
mother who may have gone through this horrible fate. Needless to say
we argued and he doesn't want me to confront his brother. Why do
people feel like it's ok to talk like this?Are they really so
ignorant to the fact of what emotional pain is? His brother has a son
too. Wow, some days it's sooo much to handle.
Angie


#1137 From: "therapist_ng" <therapist_ng@...>
Date: Tue Mar 3, 2009 9:18 pm
Subject: Horrible comments
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Hi all,

So it's happened again... people talking without thinking... My
brother in law visited my MOD walk site and donated. I emailed him a
special thank you and he decides to share with my husband that my
twin's picture was innapropriate. That if we were doing it for "shock
value" to raise more money or to put it in peoples face we succeeded.
He then starts comparing it to PETA's website were they show pics of
animals that were abused. My husband told him a few words but I don't
feel it was enough because he then apologized for it. I had told my
husband that I'm tired of making excuses for people, that I will not
listen to a comment and pretend it doesn't hurt. I've had it happen
many times and no matter how emotional I get I try to stay level
headed and tell the "idiot" (sorry) how wrong they are. I feel that
way they know better next time not to do it and to save another
mother who may have gone through this horrible fate. Needless to say
we argued and he doesn't want me to confront his brother. Why do
people feel like it's ok to talk like this?Are they really so
ignorant to the fact of what emotional pain is? His brother has a son
too. Wow, some days it's sooo much to handle.
Angie

#1136 From: marciahm@...
Date: Tue Mar 3, 2009 4:21 am
Subject: Re: [SHARE Atlanta Preg. & Newborn Loss Grief Support] My first month!
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Rodericka,

I do believe this.  The lead nurse, Andrea Dobson-Gray has been in contact with SA for a long time.  One of our moms, Coretta Monroe, has been connected with them for a long time.  Members have attended our inservices at the Wellstar facility and they are dedicated to helping newly bereaved parents.  I know that they will appreciate your positive input.  We have encouraged hospital nurses\social workers to give more than one set of outfits, etc. so that a parent can PARENT their tiny baby.  Change their clothes, dress and love them...take pictures of them.  Your words also lift me up.  I thank  you for them so very, very much!

We would love for you to join the walk.  It is easy to do and so very positive.  Our loved ones find it one way they can support you and show how much they care by embracing something you wish to do in memory/honor of your baby.  Please contact Cindy Ivey our SA team captain and she will help you or do as it says on our website.  "Cindy Ivey" <cynthiaivey@...>

We suggest giving yourself some emotional as well as body healing time before you try again.  We have an entire group topic on that..it will be coming up in April.  We have an online support forum for those who are pregnant again because it is a difficult time.  The more healed we are...the less difficult.  It is a difficult decision for parents to make, and we support parents as they move through the decision making and the next pregnancy (if they wish to have that support). 

You and your husband are welcomed to join us at the men and women's group..either as a couple or not.  Sometimes mom comes alone..sometimes dads join us.  It is what is right for you both.  I know Tammy will be pleased to have you in her group on Friday.  She also walks for SA/MODS each year in memory of her son.  She would love to answer any questions you might have.

Please know we are here as you might need us.  We all need strength to walk this path.  It is "doable" with support and understanding.

Take care,
Marcia
The love stays..forever in our heart.




-----Original Message-----
From: Rodericka Parks
Sent: Mar 2, 2009 11:02 PM
To: shareatlantasupport@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [SHARE Atlanta Preg. & Newborn Loss Grief Support] My first month!

Marcia,

Beieve it or not the hospital Social Services Dept-Wellstar Cobb was very helpful with everything; we appreciate them so much.  They gave me a Certificate of Birth, locks of her hair, hand/foot prints, a SHARE pamphlet, blanket and outfit, (even though I had a blanket, and clothes) it just allowed us to change outfits for the pictures.  SHARE has been a big help for me and I continue to read the pamphlet to keep me going.
 
I try not to bother my husband with the question "When are we going to try again" because he is grieving and he has expressed, he is afraid it will happen again.  I respect that and I try to give him his space.  I am hoping he will come with me friday but if he doesnt I know he happy for me to do this for myself. 
 
I also would like to join the walk.  I raised money as a young child and with my group at work but I have never walked.  I'm really excited about walking this year as well as meeting people in the group.
 
I pray for strength for you all as well as myself, and thank you for your support.
 
Rodericka

From: "marciahm@mindspring.com" <marciahm@mindspring.com>
To: shareatlantasupport@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 3:32:32 PM
Subject: Re: [SHARE Atlanta Preg. & Newborn Loss Grief Support] My first month!

hare its beauty with your precious daughter.  Please be gentle with yourself as you move through this week.  Daddies and mommies move through these times differently, but both are grieving. On our site you can read more about the grieving process ..
http://www.shareatl anta.org/ legacy/griefmenu .htm  The Grief Process  We also have information on there for dads. 
http://www.shareatl anta.org/ legacy/fathersgr iefmenu.htm

One thing you might plan to do if you haven't already considered it is to request the Certificate of Birth Resulting in Stillbirth, the CBRS.
You can learn more about it and how to request it here...http: //www.shareatlan ta.org/legacy/ GACBRS.htm

Doing in memory of our precious babies and, as Mindy suggests, making their brief presence meaningful in our lives journey can ease some of our grief.  We have many suggestions for making memories and others on this forum can suggest ways over the next few weeks.  At our Women's group last Wed., several people had lovely memento necklaces and/or bracelets.  You can find links to sites that have them on our site....http: //www.shareatlan ta.org/legacy/ anng.htm  Anniversaries, Holidays and Due Dates.  Others are walking in memory of their baby for March of Dimes.

Be gentle with yourself as you walk this path.  This walk is going to difficult for your husband and for you.  You can't pretend this away.  Coming to a group will help him and you see that the way you each are taking this journey is normal for the husband and wife.  He can help you but letting you do it your way, and you can help him..by letting him grieve his way.  There is no right or wrong way, but learning about the grief process helps us understand more of what we move through.

We are thinking about you both...

Take care,
Marcia
The love stays...forever in our hearts.

-----Original Message-----
From: hallumsparks
Sent: Mar 1, 2009 10:47 PM
To: shareatlantasupport @yahoogroups. com
Subject: [SHARE Atlanta Preg. & Newborn Loss Grief Support] My first month!

I am going to keep this as short as possible. I delivered Ashley on
February 4, 2009. I had just had my baby shower on Jan 31st. I knew
when she didnt move on Feb 1st that there was a problem but I never
thought it was the worst possible thing imaginable. You see my
pregnancy had been great! My husband had all of the pregnancy
symptoms (i.e..morning sickness, weight gain) this was my first child
and we both were excited. When I went to the hospital on Feb 1st
there was no heart beat (the cord was around her neck, I was 35 weeks
into my pregnancy)and I agreed they start inducing me that day
instead of prolonging the inevitable. It took 3 times. Everyone at
the hospital were wonderful including my Ob/Gyn doctors; I dont think
I could have asked to have such wonderful, blessed people around me.
Today marks the first month since I delivered and as it snows, I cant
help but think that she would have loved to see such a wonderful
site.

This week is going to be hard for me but I'm hoping and praying for
strength to make it through. I try not to cry so much in front of my
husband because he grieves as well, but in a "manly" way. He told me
my grief makes it harder for him because he is trying to help me.

I plan on meeting with the group on friday because I am hoping
speaking, and listening to others who have been through it will help
me so much more. Each day is a challenge, but it gets easier as each
day passes.

I thank you all in advance for your words and support!



#1135 From: Rodericka Parks <roderickaparks@...>
Date: Tue Mar 3, 2009 4:02 am
Subject: Re: [SHARE Atlanta Preg. & Newborn Loss Grief Support] My first month!
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Marcia,

Beieve it or not the hospital Social Services Dept-Wellstar Cobb was very helpful with everything; we appreciate them so much.  They gave me a Certificate of Birth, locks of her hair, hand/foot prints, a SHARE pamphlet, blanket and outfit, (even though I had a blanket, and clothes) it just allowed us to change outfits for the pictures.  SHARE has been a big help for me and I continue to read the pamphlet to keep me going.
 
I try not to bother my husband with the question "When are we going to try again" because he is grieving and he has expressed, he is afraid it will happen again.  I respect that and I try to give him his space.  I am hoping he will come with me friday but if he doesnt I know he happy for me to do this for myself. 
 
I also would like to join the walk.  I raised money as a young child and with my group at work but I have never walked.  I'm really excited about walking this year as well as meeting people in the group.
 
I pray for strength for you all as well as myself, and thank you for your support.
 
Rodericka

From: "marciahm@..." <marciahm@...>
To: shareatlantasupport@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 3:32:32 PM
Subject: Re: [SHARE Atlanta Preg. & Newborn Loss Grief Support] My first month!

hare its beauty with your precious daughter.  Please be gentle with yourself as you move through this week.  Daddies and mommies move through these times differently, but both are grieving. On our site you can read more about the grieving process ..
http://www.shareatl anta.org/ legacy/griefmenu .htm  The Grief Process  We also have information on there for dads. 
http://www.shareatl anta.org/ legacy/fathersgr iefmenu.htm

One thing you might plan to do if you haven't already considered it is to request the Certificate of Birth Resulting in Stillbirth, the CBRS.
You can learn more about it and how to request it here...http: //www.shareatlan ta.org/legacy/ GACBRS.htm

Doing in memory of our precious babies and, as Mindy suggests, making their brief presence meaningful in our lives journey can ease some of our grief.  We have many suggestions for making memories and others on this forum can suggest ways over the next few weeks.  At our Women's group last Wed., several people had lovely memento necklaces and/or bracelets.  You can find links to sites that have them on our site....http: //www.shareatlan ta.org/legacy/ anng.htm  Anniversaries, Holidays and Due Dates.  Others are walking in memory of their baby for March of Dimes.

Be gentle with yourself as you walk this path.  This walk is going to difficult for your husband and for you.  You can't pretend this away.  Coming to a group will help him and you see that the way you each are taking this journey is normal for the husband and wife.  He can help you but letting you do it your way, and you can help him..by letting him grieve his way.  There is no right or wrong way, but learning about the grief process helps us understand more of what we move through.

We are thinking about you both...

Take care,
Marcia
The love stays...forever in our hearts.

-----Original Message-----
From: hallumsparks
Sent: Mar 1, 2009 10:47 PM
To: shareatlantasupport @yahoogroups. com
Subject: [SHARE Atlanta Preg. & Newborn Loss Grief Support] My first month!

I am going to keep this as short as possible. I delivered Ashley on
February 4, 2009. I had just had my baby shower on Jan 31st. I knew
when she didnt move on Feb 1st that there was a problem but I never
thought it was the worst possible thing imaginable. You see my
pregnancy had been great! My husband had all of the pregnancy
symptoms (i.e..morning sickness, weight gain) this was my first child
and we both were excited. When I went to the hospital on Feb 1st
there was no heart beat (the cord was around her neck, I was 35 weeks
into my pregnancy)and I agreed they start inducing me that day
instead of prolonging the inevitable. It took 3 times. Everyone at
the hospital were wonderful including my Ob/Gyn doctors; I dont think
I could have asked to have such wonderful, blessed people around me.
Today marks the first month since I delivered and as it snows, I cant
help but think that she would have loved to see such a wonderful
site.

This week is going to be hard for me but I'm hoping and praying for
strength to make it through. I try not to cry so much in front of my
husband because he grieves as well, but in a "manly" way. He told me
my grief makes it harder for him because he is trying to help me.

I plan on meeting with the group on friday because I am hoping
speaking, and listening to others who have been through it will help
me so much more. Each day is a challenge, but it gets easier as each
day passes.

I thank you all in advance for your words and support!



#1134 From: marciahm@...
Date: Mon Mar 2, 2009 11:32 pm
Subject: Re: [SHARE Atlanta Preg. & Newborn Loss Grief Support] My first month!
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Dear Ashley's Mom,

We are sorry for the loss of Ashley on Feb. 4 at 35 weeks.  Yes, this week is hard.  I know that seeing the snow fall made you wish that you could share its beauty with your precious daughter.  Please be gentle with yourself as you move through this week.  Daddies and mommies move through these times differently, but both are grieving. On our site you can read more about the grieving process ..
http://www.shareatlanta.org/legacy/griefmenu.htm  The Grief Process  We also have information on there for dads. 
http://www.shareatlanta.org/legacy/fathersgriefmenu.htm

One thing you might plan to do if you haven't already considered it is to request the Certificate of Birth Resulting in Stillbirth, the CBRS.
You can learn more about it and how to request it here...http://www.shareatlanta.org/legacy/GACBRS.htm

Doing in memory of our precious babies and, as Mindy suggests, making their brief presence meaningful in our lives journey can ease some of our grief.  We have many suggestions for making memories and others on this forum can suggest ways over the next few weeks.  At our Women's group last Wed., several people had lovely memento necklaces and/or bracelets.  You can find links to sites that have them on our site....http://www.shareatlanta.org/legacy/anng.htm  Anniversaries, Holidays and Due Dates.  Others are walking in memory of their baby for March of Dimes.

Be gentle with yourself as you walk this path.  This walk is going to difficult for your husband and for you.  You can't pretend this away.  Coming to a group will help him and you see that the way you each are taking this journey is normal for the husband and wife.  He can help you but letting you do it your way, and you can help him..by letting him grieve his way.  There is no right or wrong way, but learning about the grief process helps us understand more of what we move through.

We are thinking about you both...

Take care,
Marcia
The love stays...forever in our hearts.

-----Original Message-----
From: hallumsparks
Sent: Mar 1, 2009 10:47 PM
To: shareatlantasupport@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [SHARE Atlanta Preg. & Newborn Loss Grief Support] My first month!

I am going to keep this as short as possible. I delivered Ashley on
February 4, 2009. I had just had my baby shower on Jan 31st. I knew
when she didnt move on Feb 1st that there was a problem but I never
thought it was the worst possible thing imaginable. You see my
pregnancy had been great! My husband had all of the pregnancy
symptoms (i.e..morning sickness, weight gain) this was my first child
and we both were excited. When I went to the hospital on Feb 1st
there was no heart beat (the cord was around her neck, I was 35 weeks
into my pregnancy)and I agreed they start inducing me that day
instead of prolonging the inevitable. It took 3 times. Everyone at
the hospital were wonderful including my Ob/Gyn doctors; I dont think
I could have asked to have such wonderful, blessed people around me.
Today marks the first month since I delivered and as it snows, I cant
help but think that she would have loved to see such a wonderful
site.

This week is going to be hard for me but I'm hoping and praying for
strength to make it through. I try not to cry so much in front of my
husband because he grieves as well, but in a "manly" way. He told me
my grief makes it harder for him because he is trying to help me.

I plan on meeting with the group on friday because I am hoping
speaking, and listening to others who have been through it will help
me so much more. Each day is a challenge, but it gets easier as each
day passes.

I thank you all in advance for your words and support!


#1133 From: Adrianne Alyce <annealyce@...>
Date: Mon Mar 2, 2009 11:03 pm
Subject: Re: [SHARE Atlanta Preg. & Newborn Loss Grief Support] My first month!
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I agree with Mindy. There is no law saying that you have to do it right now. I always say let your heart guide you. When you are ready to let go of the items you will know. My son was stillborn at 19 weeks so we hadn't had a shower, set up his room and all of that. All I had for him was a rubber ducky, a music box and the memento box that we got from the hospital. I ended up giving my daughter the rubber ducky when she was born and the rest sits on a top shelf.
 
 
 
 
--- On Mon, 3/2/09, Rodericka Parks <roderickaparks@...> wrote:

From: Rodericka Parks <roderickaparks@...>
Subject: Re: [SHARE Atlanta Preg. & Newborn Loss Grief Support] My first month!
To: shareatlantasupport@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, March 2, 2009, 1:54 PM

Adrianne,
I'm trying to pack up the baby shower gifts today and its harder than I thought.  How do I talk myself through it?


From: Adrianne Alyce <annealyce@yahoo. com>
To: shareatlantasupport @yahoogroups. com
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 7:48:31 AM
Subject: Re: [SHARE Atlanta Preg. & Newborn Loss Grief Support] My first month!

Hello,
 
My heart goes out to you. It is so hard to loss your baby. You don't know if you are coming or going sometimes. I am glad that you plan on going to the meeting on Friday. It will be a great help. If you want to talk before Friday please write as many times as you want.
 
Many Hugs,
 
Adrianne

--- On Sun, 3/1/09, hallumsparks <roderickaparks@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: hallumsparks <roderickaparks@ yahoo.com>
Subject: [SHARE Atlanta Preg. & Newborn Loss Grief Support] My first month!
To: shareatlantasupport @yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, March 1, 2009, 10:47 PM

I am going to keep this as short as possible. I delivered Ashley on
February 4, 2009. I had just had my baby shower on Jan 31st. I knew
when she didnt move on Feb 1st that there was a problem but I never
thought it was the worst possible thing imaginable. You see my
pregnancy had been great! My husband had all of the pregnancy
symptoms (i.e..morning sickness, weight gain) this was my first child
and we both were excited. When I went to the hospital on Feb 1st
there was no heart beat (the cord was around her neck, I was 35 weeks
into my pregnancy)and I agreed they start inducing me that day
instead of prolonging the inevitable. It took 3 times. Everyone at
the hospital were wonderful including my Ob/Gyn doctors; I dont think
I could have asked to have such wonderful, blessed people around me.
Today marks the first month since I delivered and as it snows, I cant
help but think that she would have loved to see such a wonderful
site.

This week is going to be hard for me but I'm hoping and praying for
strength to make it through. I try not to cry so much in front of my
husband because he grieves as well, but in a "manly" way. He told me
my grief makes it harder for him because he is trying to help me.

I plan on meeting with the group on friday because I am hoping
speaking, and listening to others who have been through it will help
me so much more. Each day is a challenge, but it gets easier as each
day passes.

I thank you all in advance for your words and support!





#1132 From: "Mindy" <msimmons1023@...>
Date: Mon Mar 2, 2009 8:51 pm
Subject: Re: My first month!
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There's no rule that says you have to.  It's also ok to ask someone you
trust to do this for you.  I lost my little guy at 28 weeks.  Luckily
we hadn't had the shower yet (though they tried to deny me a refund on
my hall deposit), the few things we had for him were in a storage
container.  Where they stayed until I was ready to deal with them.  As
my close friends and family started to have children of their own, I
slowly started to pass on his things.  Gifts that were treasured.  I
kept a few things for myself more as momentos than anything.  When my
daughter was born 11 years later, I was surprised as all those things
made their way back to me.

Be kind to yourself, do what you can and give yourself permission to
find YOUR way to get through the tough times ahead.  The first year is
usally the worst. Finding ways to turn the power of greif for good
causes has been my biggest source of strength and healing.

#1131 From: Rodericka Parks <roderickaparks@...>
Date: Mon Mar 2, 2009 6:54 pm
Subject: Re: [SHARE Atlanta Preg. & Newborn Loss Grief Support] My first month!
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Adrianne,
I'm trying to pack up the baby shower gifts today and its harder than I thought.  How do I talk myself through it?


From: Adrianne Alyce <annealyce@...>
To: shareatlantasupport@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 7:48:31 AM
Subject: Re: [SHARE Atlanta Preg. & Newborn Loss Grief Support] My first month!

Hello,
 
My heart goes out to you. It is so hard to loss your baby. You don't know if you are coming or going sometimes. I am glad that you plan on going to the meeting on Friday. It will be a great help. If you want to talk before Friday please write as many times as you want.
 
Many Hugs,
 
Adrianne

--- On Sun, 3/1/09, hallumsparks <roderickaparks@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: hallumsparks <roderickaparks@ yahoo.com>
Subject: [SHARE Atlanta Preg. & Newborn Loss Grief Support] My first month!
To: shareatlantasupport @yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, March 1, 2009, 10:47 PM

I am going to keep this as short as possible. I delivered Ashley on
February 4, 2009. I had just had my baby shower on Jan 31st. I knew
when she didnt move on Feb 1st that there was a problem but I never
thought it was the worst possible thing imaginable. You see my
pregnancy had been great! My husband had all of the pregnancy
symptoms (i.e..morning sickness, weight gain) this was my first child
and we both were excited. When I went to the hospital on Feb 1st
there was no heart beat (the cord was around her neck, I was 35 weeks
into my pregnancy)and I agreed they start inducing me that day
instead of prolonging the inevitable. It took 3 times. Everyone at
the hospital were wonderful including my Ob/Gyn doctors; I dont think
I could have asked to have such wonderful, blessed people around me.
Today marks the first month since I delivered and as it snows, I cant
help but think that she would have loved to see such a wonderful
site.

This week is going to be hard for me but I'm hoping and praying for
strength to make it through. I try not to cry so much in front of my
husband because he grieves as well, but in a "manly" way. He told me
my grief makes it harder for him because he is trying to help me.

I plan on meeting with the group on friday because I am hoping
speaking, and listening to others who have been through it will help
me so much more. Each day is a challenge, but it gets easier as each
day passes.

I thank you all in advance for your words and support!




#1130 From: Adrianne Alyce <annealyce@...>
Date: Mon Mar 2, 2009 3:48 pm
Subject: Re: [SHARE Atlanta Preg. & Newborn Loss Grief Support] My first month!
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Hello,
 
My heart goes out to you. It is so hard to loss your baby. You don't know if you are coming or going sometimes. I am glad that you plan on going to the meeting on Friday. It will be a great help. If you want to talk before Friday please write as many times as you want.
 
Many Hugs,
 
Adrianne

--- On Sun, 3/1/09, hallumsparks <roderickaparks@...> wrote:

From: hallumsparks <roderickaparks@...>
Subject: [SHARE Atlanta Preg. & Newborn Loss Grief Support] My first month!
To: shareatlantasupport@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, March 1, 2009, 10:47 PM

I am going to keep this as short as possible. I delivered Ashley on
February 4, 2009. I had just had my baby shower on Jan 31st. I knew
when she didnt move on Feb 1st that there was a problem but I never
thought it was the worst possible thing imaginable. You see my
pregnancy had been great! My husband had all of the pregnancy
symptoms (i.e..morning sickness, weight gain) this was my first child
and we both were excited. When I went to the hospital on Feb 1st
there was no heart beat (the cord was around her neck, I was 35 weeks
into my pregnancy)and I agreed they start inducing me that day
instead of prolonging the inevitable. It took 3 times. Everyone at
the hospital were wonderful including my Ob/Gyn doctors; I dont think
I could have asked to have such wonderful, blessed people around me.
Today marks the first month since I delivered and as it snows, I cant
help but think that she would have loved to see such a wonderful
site.

This week is going to be hard for me but I'm hoping and praying for
strength to make it through. I try not to cry so much in front of my
husband because he grieves as well, but in a "manly" way. He told me
my grief makes it harder for him because he is trying to help me.

I plan on meeting with the group on friday because I am hoping
speaking, and listening to others who have been through it will help
me so much more. Each day is a challenge, but it gets easier as each
day passes.

I thank you all in advance for your words and support!



#1129 From: "hallumsparks" <roderickaparks@...>
Date: Mon Mar 2, 2009 3:47 am
Subject: My first month!
hallumsparks
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I am going to keep this as short as possible.  I delivered Ashley on
February 4, 2009.  I had just had my baby shower on Jan 31st.  I knew
when she didnt move on Feb 1st that there was a problem but I never
thought it was the worst possible thing imaginable.  You see my
pregnancy had been great!  My husband had all of the pregnancy
symptoms (i.e..morning sickness, weight gain) this was my first child
and we both were excited.  When I went to the hospital on Feb 1st
there was no heart beat (the cord was around her neck, I was 35 weeks
into my pregnancy)and I agreed they start inducing me that day
instead of prolonging the inevitable.  It took 3 times.  Everyone at
the hospital were wonderful including my Ob/Gyn doctors; I dont think
I could have asked to have such wonderful, blessed people around me.
Today marks the first month since I delivered and as it snows, I cant
help but think that she would have loved to see such a wonderful
site.

This week is going to be hard for me but I'm hoping and praying for
strength to make it through. I try not to cry so much in front of my
husband because he grieves as well, but in a "manly" way. He told me
my grief makes it harder for him because he is trying to help me.

I plan on meeting with the group on friday because I am hoping
speaking, and listening to others who have been through it will help
me so much more.  Each day is a challenge, but it gets easier as each
day passes.

I thank you all in advance for your words and support!

#1128 From: shareatlantasupport@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon Mar 2, 2009 12:25 am
Subject: Men & Womens Group, 3/6/2009, 7:30 pm
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Title:   Men & Womens Group
 
Date:   Friday March 6, 2009
Time:   7:30 pm - 9:30 pm
Repeats:   This event repeats every month on the first Friday.
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Location:   Kennesaw, GA
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#1127 From: shareatlantasupport@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun Mar 1, 2009 4:51 am
Subject: SHARE ATLANTA Grief Forum’s Etiquette, 3/1/2009, 12:00 am
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Reminder from:   shareatlantasupport Yahoo! Group
 
Title:   SHARE ATLANTA Grief Forum’s Etiquette
 
Date:   Sunday March 1, 2009
Time:   All Day
Repeats:   This event repeats every month.
Notes:   A GUIDE TO EFFECTIVE AND CONSIDERATE LIST MEMBERSHIP

1. We are here to heal. Please respect other people’s grief.
2. Remember that we have all been hurt by the death of our baby(ies). This is a safe haven to express our grief and to help others that are new in their grief walk.
3. This is not a debate group. Everyone has their own grief walk. Do not be judgmental of other people’s opinions.
4. SA is nondenominational. SHARE Atlanta members represent a broad array of religious beliefs and political views. Spirituality is part of the healing process. SA is open to sharing spiritual views as healing happens. Discussion of religious feelings can happen as long as we do not judge or become critical of one another’s beliefs. In the meetings, since we all are in one room, the facilitator is careful to point out that no one philosophy is encouraged. This is also true for our forum, and each person can ignore or delete those posts that do not embrace their beliefs. No accusations should be made that one belief is better than another. We can learn from each other if we protect the personal space and beliefs of each member. The death of our baby causes many to examine, embrace, or enhance their spirituality. For many there is much comfort from their faith. So it is important to be able to discuss and explore our thoughts without fear of being judged. To protect those who do not wish to enter into a religious topic, please include "Religious" in the subject line if the post focuses on religious thoughts, poems, or stories. Political views are inappropriate for this list.
5. Do not post chain emails. We do not wish to post other people’s emails on our forum. If you want to send poems, stories, etc, that is fine. Include just the story or poem – no additional thoughts or comments made in a chain note.
6. Do not use judgmental, emotionally charged language such as “outraged,” “dumbfounded,” “ridiculous,” etc. or graphics (@#!!; geeee…, etc) when describing yo
 
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