Has anyone gotten the book by David Daniels that claims a secret cure for
rosacea?  He says the problem is a hormonal imbalance, and that there is a
natural remedy you can buy over the counter... Anyone know anything about that?
...G

I'm listening!  I'm with you, it is no fun.  I'm red right now from a
day of sun, wind, and now 1/2 a beer.   Burning up.  Ah well.

-Renee

secjr73 wrote:
>
>
> Hello Mark,
>
> My symptoms are similar to yours. I'm a 36 year old male and have fair
> skin. Sudden temperature changes, spicy foods, and alcoholic beverages
> usually (but not always) trigger flushing. It does get wearisome.
>
> I can't really offer any tips as I have yet to find a way to combat my
> Rosacea. But know that there are others out there ... don't let it get
> you down.
>
> Sam
> --- In rosaceans@yahoogrou ps.com
> <mailto:rosaceans%40yahoogroups.com>, "mgtreacy" <mgtreacy@.. .> wrote:
> >
> > I see no one has posted a message in quite a while. I hope that
> there are still a few of you out there!!!
> >
>

Hello Mark,

My symptoms are similar to yours.  I'm a 36 year old male and have fair skin. 
Sudden temperature changes, spicy foods, and alcoholic beverages usually (but
not always) trigger flushing.  It does get wearisome.

I can't really offer any tips as I have yet to find a way to combat my Rosacea. 
But know that there are others out there ... don't let it get you down.

Sam
--- In rosaceans@yahoogroups.com, "mgtreacy" <mgtreacy@...> wrote:
>
> I see no one has posted a message in quite a while. I hope that there are
still a few of you out there!!!
>
> I have Rosacea a 35 year old male and also suffer from Psoriasis. For me acne
is not a problem its the constant flushing and blushing.
>
> I have such fair skin all it takes is simple climate change (hopping in a hot
car) or spicy food (and beer now :(!!!!) and I can feel the burn of the Rosacea
hit my face. That feeling sparks panic which seems to increase the blush.
>
> Is there anyone out there that has similar symtoms?
>
> I really want some tips on how to control this because at this stage my
redness is really getting me down.
>
> I take Doxycycline, visit a dermatologist every 2 months, have gone through
cognitive therapy and try as best I can to watch what i eat.
>
> Would love to share and learn of fellow suffers
>
> Mark
>

I see no one has posted a message in quite a while. I hope that there are still
a few of you out there!!!

I have Rosacea a 35 year old male and also suffer from Psoriasis. For me acne is
not a problem its the constant flushing and blushing.

I have such fair skin all it takes is simple climate change (hopping in a hot
car) or spicy food (and beer now :(!!!!) and I can feel the burn of the Rosacea
hit my face. That feeling sparks panic which seems to increase the blush.

Is there anyone out there that has similar symtoms?

I really want some tips on how to control this because at this stage my redness
is really getting me down.

I take Doxycycline, visit a dermatologist every 2 months, have gone through
cognitive therapy and try as best I can to watch what i eat.

Would love to share and learn of fellow suffers

Mark

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It usually starts between age 30 and 60. In most cases, rosacea only affects the
face. For patients, practical information is provided in clearly written patient
education documents. For medical professionals, doctor reference tools and texts
have detailed technical information and clinical background material. There is
no other reference that is as fast, convenient, and portable - everything you
need to know, from the federal sources you trust. This thoroughly researched
collection presents vital information from many authoritative sources: Food and
Drug Administration (FDA), Centers for Disease Control (CDC), National
Institutes of Health (NIH) and the relevant institute for this disease, and
others. In addition to the comprehensive disease-specific coverage, this disc
set also includes our Medical Encyclopedia, a $19.95 value! The Encyclopedia
presents a collection of official documents about a wide range of medical
topics, diseases, illnesses, health and wellness. There is vital information
from the National Institutes of Health (NIH), the Centers for Disease Control
(CDC), National Cancer Institute, and more. Topics covered include: major
diseases, including cancer, heart and vascular disease, stroke, blood diseases
and disorders, lung diseases, and neurological disorders such as dementia and
epilepsy * CDC Health Topics A to Z, Foodborne Illnesses, Infants and Children,
Injuries, Occupational Health, Older Adults, Women * CDC Travelers' Health -
Destinations, Vaccinations, Diseases, Mosquito, Tick, Food, Water, Clinics,
Yellow Book, Children, Airplanes, Cruise Ships, Special Needs, Relief Workers *
Dietary Guidelines * NIH A to Z from abnormalities to X-rays. Since navigating
the Internet to find additional non-governmental medical information can be
confusing, we've also provided our exclusive "Guide to Leading Medical Websites"
with updated links to 67 of the best sites for medical information! Built-in
weblinks let you quickly check for the latest clinical updates directly from the
government and the best commercial portals, news sites,
reference/textbook/non-commercial portals, and health organizations.

About the Author
This CD-ROM has tens of thousands of pages reproduced using Adobe Acrobat PDF
software. Advanced search and indexing features of the current version of Adobe
Reader provide a complete full-text index. This enables the user to search all
the files on the disc at one time for words or phrases using just one search
command! The Acrobat cataloging technology adds enormous value and uncommon
functionality to this impressive collection of medical documents and material.
Our CD-ROMs are privately-compiled collections of official public domain U.S.
government files and documents - they are not produced by the federal
government. They are designed to provide a convenient user-friendly reference
work, utilizing the benefits of the Acrobat format to uniformly present
thousands of pages that can be rapidly reviewed or printed without untold hours
of tedious searching and downloading. This book-on-a-disc makes a superb
reference work and educational tool for patients and their families, physicians,
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collection of authoritative documents on the subject of rosacea. Rosacea is a
long-term disease that affects your skin and sometimes your eyes. It causes
redness and pimples. Rosacea is most common in women and people with fair skin.
It usually starts between age 30 and 60. In most cases, rosacea only affects the
face. For patients, practical information is provided in clearly written patient
education documents. For medical professionals, doctor reference tools and texts
have detailed technical information and clinical background material. There is
no other reference that is as fast, convenient, and portable - everything you
need to know, from the federal sources you trust. This thoroughly researched
collection presents vital information from many authoritative sources: Food and
Drug Administration (FDA), Centers for Disease Control (CDC), National
Institutes of Health (NIH) and the relevant institute for this disease, and
others. In addition to the comprehensive disease-specific coverage, this disc
set also includes our Medical Encyclopedia, a $19.95 value! The Encyclopedia
presents a collection of official documents about a wide range of medical
topics, diseases, illnesses, health and wellness. There is vital information
from the National Institutes of Health (NIH), the Centers for Disease Control
(CDC), National Cancer Institute, and more. Topics covered include: major
diseases, including cancer, heart and vascular disease, stroke, blood diseases
and disorders, lung diseases, and neurological disorders such as dementia and
epilepsy * CDC Health Topics A to Z, Foodborne Illnesses, Infants and Children,
Injuries, Occupational Health, Older Adults, Women * CDC Travelers' Health -
Destinations, Vaccinations, Diseases, Mosquito, Tick, Food, Water, Clinics,
Yellow Book, Children, Airplanes, Cruise Ships, Special Needs, Relief Workers *
Dietary Guidelines * NIH A to Z from abnormalities to X-rays. Since navigating
the Internet to find additional non-governmental medical information can be
confusing, we've also provided our exclusive "Guide to Leading Medical Websites"
with updated links to 67 of the best sites for medical information! Built-in
weblinks let you quickly check for the latest clinical updates directly from the
government and the best commercial portals, news sites,
reference/textbook/non-commercial portals, and health organizations.

About the Author
This CD-ROM has tens of thousands of pages reproduced using Adobe Acrobat PDF
software. Advanced search and indexing features of the current version of Adobe
Reader provide a complete full-text index. This enables the user to search all
the files on the disc at one time for words or phrases using just one search
command! The Acrobat cataloging technology adds enormous value and uncommon
functionality to this impressive collection of medical documents and material.
Our CD-ROMs are privately-compiled collections of official public domain U.S.
government files and documents - they are not produced by the federal
government. They are designed to provide a convenient user-friendly reference
work, utilizing the benefits of the Acrobat format to uniformly present
thousands of pages that can be rapidly reviewed or printed without untold hours
of tedious searching and downloading. This book-on-a-disc makes a superb
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group owner

I wash my face, mix it up, apply it, and leave it on until it dries (10-15
minutes), then wash it off with clean water....G

I told my kids I learned to swim, when my family took me out on a boat, and
threw me in the water. My son Matt told me, "Dad, they weren't trying to teach
you how to swim."...G

--- On Sat, 8/22/09, designs4me <designs4me@...> wrote:


From: designs4me <designs4me@...>
Subject: [rosaceans] Re: Getzko Treatment
To: rosaceans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, August 22, 2009, 6:08 PM


 



I was just reading this and wondering if anyone had anymore details - from
Gabriella's description it sounds like she put it on and took it off right away
(although does say 'mask' so may have left it on a bit?)
Brady - you said overnight.
How long did you put it on George?

thx. I think I may pick some up as that stuff is cheap.
-K

--- In rosaceans@yahoogrou ps.com, "bradybarrows" <bradybarrows@ ...> wrote:
>
> Well you happen to be the first who has reported it worked for you
> along with Gabriella. Thanks for reporting.
>
> If case anyone would like to know more about
> the Getzko natural treatment for rosacea:
>
> http://www.rosacean s.com/getzko_ treatment. php
>
> Brady
> group owner
>
> --- In rosaceans@yahoogrou ps.com, "George" <gtabb1016@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > I developed rosacea about 3 months ago. I took anti-biotics, and used two
different types of cream for my rocacea. I saw very little change, and it came
back quickly. I am still looking for my triggers. My rosacea developed large
zits and blisters and I was red all over my nose. I didn't want to go out with
that. Then, about 4 days ago, I found this group, and read the advice about the
Getzko treatment. I tried it, and my nose is almost back to normal. This really
works. All I can say is thanks...G
> >
>



















[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I was just reading this and wondering if anyone had anymore details - from
Gabriella's description it sounds like she put it on and took it off right away
(although does say 'mask' so may have left it on a bit?)
Brady - you said overnight.
How long did you put it on George?

thx. I think I may pick some up as that stuff is cheap.
-K

--- In rosaceans@yahoogroups.com, "bradybarrows" <bradybarrows@...> wrote:
>
> Well you happen to be the first who has reported it worked for you
> along with Gabriella.  Thanks for reporting.
>
> If case anyone would like to know more about
> the Getzko natural treatment for rosacea:
>
> http://www.rosaceans.com/getzko_treatment.php
>
> Brady
> group owner
>
> --- In rosaceans@yahoogroups.com, "George" <gtabb1016@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> >      I developed rosacea about 3 months ago.  I took anti-biotics, and used
two different types of cream for my rocacea. I saw very little change, and it
came back quickly.  I am still looking for my triggers.  My rosacea developed
large zits and blisters and I was red all over my nose.  I didn't want to go out
with that.  Then, about 4 days ago, I found this group, and read the advice
about the Getzko treatment.  I tried it, and my nose is almost back to normal. 
This really works.  All I can say is thanks...G
> >
>

Another new rosacea product:

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Brady
group owner

Well you happen to be the first who has reported it worked for you
along with Gabriella.  Thanks for reporting.

If case anyone would like to know more about
the Getzko natural treatment for rosacea:

http://www.rosaceans.com/getzko_treatment.php

Brady
group owner

--- In rosaceans@yahoogroups.com, "George" <gtabb1016@...> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
>      I developed rosacea about 3 months ago.  I took anti-biotics, and used
two different types of cream for my rocacea. I saw very little change, and it
came back quickly.  I am still looking for my triggers.  My rosacea developed
large zits and blisters and I was red all over my nose.  I didn't want to go out
with that.  Then, about 4 days ago, I found this group, and read the advice
about the Getzko treatment.  I tried it, and my nose is almost back to normal. 
This really works.  All I can say is thanks...G
>

Hello everyone,

      I developed rosacea about 3 months ago.  I took anti-biotics, and used two
different types of cream for my rocacea. I saw very little change, and it came
back quickly.  I am still looking for my triggers.  My rosacea developed large
zits and blisters and I was red all over my nose.  I didn't want to go out with
that.  Then, about 4 days ago, I found this group, and read the advice about the
Getzko treatment.  I tried it, and my nose is almost back to normal.  This
really works.  All I can say is thanks...G

This drug has been around for the past year and there is a discount offered
by the company:

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0

Oracea is a low dose tetracycline that many say works to control their rosacea.

Brady
group owner

--- In rosaceans@yahoogroups.com, "aprilluvsks" <april@...> wrote:
>
> the drug is Oracea in 40 mg.
> April
>
> www.oracea.com
> I don't work for the drug company. I just got some samples from my derm, and
will see if this works. Of course you have to wear sunscreen.
>

Friday, September 11th 2009
Semmelweis University
Program:
Martin Steinhoff
Michael Detmar
Martin Schaller
Jürgen Schauber
Sabine Werner

http://www.esdr.org/pdf/Galderma_Rosacea2009.pdf

Registration:

European Society for Dermatological Research
7 Rue Cingria
CH-1205 Geneva
Switzerland
http://www.esdr.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=164&Itemid=1

Brady
group owner

the drug is Oracea in 40 mg.
April

www.oracea.com
I don't work for the drug company. I just got some samples from my derm, and
will see if this works. Of course you have to wear sunscreen.

Empirical treatment is key to identifying rosacea, other dermatoses
Modern Medicine - Publish date: Nov 1, 2007
By:  John Jesitus

Sewickley, Pa. — Although Demodex mites are frequently associated with rosacea,
one expert says they don't cause the condition. Due to the frequent overlap of
rosacea and other dermatoses with each other and Demodex dermatitis, the
physician's first step in such cases should be empirical treatment for Demodex
dermatitis, he says.
"Any patient who presents with a red face — especially a red, dry, scaly face —
should have an empirical trial of a topical or systemic medication to treat
Demodex," says Joseph Bikowski, M.D., director, Bikowski Skin Care Center, and
clinical assistant professor of dermatology, Ohio State University, Columbus,
Ohio.

"There are three distinct facial dermatoses of consequence — rosacea, seborrheic
dermatitis and Demodex dermatitis," he says. All three occur commonly, and
commonly cross over, so that a patient can have more than one at a time, adds
Dr. Bikowski, who says his conclusions are based on anecdotal evidence.

Furthermore, he says, "I do not believe that Demodex mites cause rosacea. I'm
very emphatic about that."
Demodex dermatitis and rosacea are entirely separate clinical entities, Dr.
Bikowski tells Dermatology Times, "and I believe there are numerous patients who
present with red, scaly faces who have rosacea in combination with either
seborrheic dermatitis or Demodex dermatitis. They could also have seborrheic or
Demodex dermatitis alone," he says.

One study has shown that 10 percent of skin biopsies and 12 percent of hair
follicles contain Demodex mites. The same study shows that both Demodex
folliculorum and the smaller D. brevis exhibit their heaviest infestations on
the face (Aylesworth R, Vance JC. Demodex folliculorum and Demodex brevis in
cutaneous biopsies. J Am Acad Dermatol. November 1982; 7(5):583-589).

However, Dr. Bikowski says that if one performs a potassium hydroxide (KOH)
preparation of the facial skin and examines it for mites microscopically, "Even
if the sample is negative, it does not mean the patient does not have Demodex
dermatitis. And just because the scraping is positive, it does not mean the
patient has Demodex dermatitis."

Indeed, dermatologists generally consider the D. folliculorum mite a normal part
of the human flora that only becomes a pathogen after it multiplies and invades
the dermis, provoking an inflammatory response (Bhatia B, Del Rosso JQ. Acne &
rosacea: just the facts — dispelling the mystery of Demodex.
http://www.skinandaging.com/article/6756/).

Accordingly, Dr. Bikowski says, "At this point in time, the only way to
determine if a patient has Demodex dermatitis is through an empirical trial of
one of three medications."

Those medications are topical Elimite (permethrin, Allergan), topical Eurax
(crotamiton, Ranbaxy) or systemic ivermectin.

When a patient who has had no previous treatment presents with a red, scaly
face, he says, "The first thing one should do is discuss skincare. Skincare to
me means cleansing and moisturizing with a product that contains ceramide,"
which helps restore the skin barrier. "No matter which of these diseases is
involved," Dr. Bikowski says, "the skin barrier is disrupted."

As a next step, he continues, "I always do KOH preparation just to see if I can
find the Demodex mite."

Whether he finds this mite or not, Dr. Bikowski says, "I undertake an empirical
trial, usually with crotamiton, used twice daily for two weeks as indicated."

If the patient's skin improves dramatically after two weeks, he says, "This
probably proves that at least part, if not all, of the disease process is
Demodex dermatitis."


Conversely, Dr. Bikowski says if the patient experiences partial or no response,
"Then one can assume that one is dealing with either rosacea or seborrheic
dermatitis, or a combination thereof."

For patients who do not achieve complete clearance after standard treatment for
rosacea, seborrheic dermatitis or both, he recommends the same approach.

In a best-case scenario, Dr. Bikowski says, "The KOH shows many mites; one
treats the patient for two weeks with one of the indicated products; and then a
repeat of the KOH shows no mites," although repeating the KOH isn't absolutely
necessary.

Dr. Bikowski says the association between Demodex mites and rosacea or other
dermatoses is so common that "Every single patient who presents with a red,
scaly face needs an empirical trial of one of these medicines."
However, he says very few physicians agree with his theory that Demodex mites do
not cause rosacea. "I've only figured this theory out in the last 12 to 18
months," he says.

In particular, he reports that he'd been treating a patient for what he believed
was seborrheic dermatitis for two years, "and the patient kept getting worse. No
matter what I used, he didn't get better," even after treatment for rosacea.
"Finally," Dr. Bikowski says, "I did a KOH of his forehead and found a
significant infestation of mites." After treating the patient with topical
permethrin for two weeks, he says, "He cleared."

Disclosure: Dr. Bikowski is a consultant to Ranbaxy.

For more information: http://www.bikowskimd.com/

Source of the above article:

http://tinyurl.com/nn82h4

What is the name of the new drug?

Brady
group owner

--- In rosaceans@yahoogroups.com, "aprilluvsks" <april@...> wrote:
>
> recently I vistited my dermatologist and he mentioned there is a new oral drug
out for Rosacea. ANy one heard of it? I will find out about it next week.
> April
>

recently I vistited my dermatologist and he mentioned there is a new oral drug
out for Rosacea. ANy one heard of it? I will find out about it next week.
April

Aloha Kathy,

Welcome back.

I have been using Aloe Vera, the plant, cutting the leaf and applying the juice
from the leaf by rubbing it all over my face and have been getting some
excellent
results.  Calms the skin and works wonders. It is my latest treatment. If you
are
blessed enough to have aloe vera growing in front of your residence like me, you
simply go outside and cut a leaf and slit it right through the leaf and apply
the
gooey stuff right on your face.  If not, try to find some. That is my two cents
of
current advice for now

Brady
group owner

--- In rosaceans@yahoogroups.com, "kathystrickland2008" <remembermeok@...>
wrote:
>
> Have been gone for awhile. Needing to find out new things for stinging, it is
trying to come back full force on me. I am more productive than the last time I
was here.
>
> Anyone hormone implants that have caused more stinging???
>
> Anyone used cream for athlete's foot on their face??? I tried it and it
actually worked for a short time.
>
> It's like everything else I have tried. Only works for a short time if at all.
>
> Thanks for reading, hope to hear from u guys!! Kathy S.
>

Have been gone for awhile. Needing to find out new things for stinging, it is
trying to come back full force on me. I am more productive than the last time I
was here.

Anyone hormone implants that have caused more stinging???

Anyone used cream for athlete's foot on their face??? I tried it and it actually
worked for a short time.

It's like everything else I have tried. Only works for a short time if at all.

Thanks for reading, hope to hear from u guys!! Kathy S.

The RRDi is please to announce that Joanne Whitehead, Ph.D., has been appointed
to serve on the board of directors:

http://irosacea.org/board.php#jwhitehead

Dr. Whitehead has written an article for the RRDi which will be published later
this year by the  RRDi and has been pre-published by Elsiever:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19573995?dopt=Abstract

The RRDi is a non profit organization of volunteer rosacea sufferers who have
come together to find the cure for rosacea.

I have a page with some clinical studies showing that a high sugar diet is
associated with Acne:

http://www.rosaceans.com/acnediet.php

Brady
group owner

Demodectic Rosacea is in the news again:

http://tinyurl.com/ntwwlo

While the article calls it "Demodex dermatitis" it is just another name for
demodectic rosacea:

http://www.rosaceans.com/demodex.php

Eventually, physicians will be testing for demodex as a regular routine which
has not been done in the past. I have been encouraging rosaceans to insist for a
demodex text examination since I came out with my book, Rosacea 101, in 2007. 
Finally an article that substantiates what I have been saying about demodectic
rosacea.  More articles will no doubt follow.

Brady
group owner

Intestinal alkaline phosphatase: The molecular link between rosacea and
gastrointestinal disease?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19573995?dopt=Abstract

Brady
group owner

I have been conducting polls on the subject, 'Is Flushing Rosacea?' which the
results show that the majority of rosaceans believe flushing is rosacea. In one
poll the results are, as of this date:
41 (63%) YES
14 (22%) NO
10 (15%) Don't know
0 (0%) Don't care

Source of the above poll:
http://rosaceans.com/is_flushing_rosacea_poll.php

In another poll the results are:
16 (55%) YES
5 (17%) NO
7 (24%) Don't know
1 (3%) Don't care
Source of the above poll:
Rosacea Diet Users Support Group Poll Yahoo Group

The point of all this is that most rosaceans believe that flushing is rosacea.
However, that is like saying pimples are rosacea. Flushing is only a sign or
symptom of rosacea. Redness due to Inflammation (or erythema) is a sign or
symptom of rosacea. To believe that redness is rosacea is an oversimplification
and not correct. A person could have redness and have all sorts of different
reasons other than rosacea. To have a flush and conclude one has rosacea isn't
the whole picture. To obtain a diagnosis of rosacea requires a physician to
carefully evaluate the patient's history and an actual physical exam. There is
currently no clinical test for rosacea and the judgement of the physician is the
current only and proper way to obtain a diagnosis of rosacea. And such a
diagnosis has later sometimes been found to be wrong. Sometimes the patient
later finds out that it was misdiagnosed and turns out to be SD or something
else. There are a few rosaceans who do not experience flushing and have a
correct diagnosis of rosacea. Dr. Powell in his new book points out that
flushing is not an absolute requirement for a diagnosis of rosacea. There are
other reputable physicians who agree. However, this subject is one of the hotly
debated subjects in the rosacea world. Some physicians, notably Dr. Kligman says
that rosacea is a vascular disorder and flushing is one of the distinguishing
characteristics for a diagnosis. While even Dr. Powell acknowledges that
flushing is probably one of the most distinguishing characteristics in a
diagnosis, he says he has seen patients with rosacea who do not flush any more
than the general population and these patients do not report flushing. However,
the inflammation or erythema associated with rosacea can cause the burning
sensation that most rosaceans complain about. Flushing continues to probably be
the most talked about and most concerned subject rosaceans discuss in all the
rosacea forums and groups and rightly so. It is a major concern. However,
flushing avoidance is simply one way to treat rosacea. There are other
treatments available so focusing only on flushing might prove to be frustrating
since there are other options available and it is difficult to avoid flushing
for many.

Mechelle,

You might be right about the fading properties of H2O2. Last night I reduced
the baking soda to about one third to one quarter of a teaspoon and about the
same amount of H2O2 (you don't need much to dissolve the baking soda) and
still had enough to spread all over my face. I still get some stinging and it
does
indeed dry out my skin, but I have oily skin so that works for me. Those with
dry skin will not like this treatment at all.  And indeed, it tightens the skin
considerably.  Maybe a new treatment for wrinkles?  I will keep you informed of
my progress but so far it hasn't reduced the redness in my cheeks or nose
noticeably. The best thing about this treatment is that is is inexpensive.

Brady
group owner

--- In rosaceans@yahoogroups.com, "Mechelle" <txcactusblossom@...> wrote:
>
> She did mention using it twice a day, something I don't have time for.  I did
try it last night. I deal with some redness of the cheeks and nose along with a
couple of veins showing near the jaw line.  I didn't experience any stinging, it
just felt cold on my face and that was a bit soothing.  I didn't sleep in it. I
washed it off after it had dried. My face felt pretty tight, which was annoying
since that same area is quite dry.
> Considering some other comments she made, it had me wondering if the case
wasn't one of her skin responding to the hydrogen peroxide's "fading"
properties.
> --- In rosaceans@yahoogroups.com, "Brady Barrows" <bradybarrows@> wrote:
> >
> > I am on my fourth night time application and have found the following
> > recipe I discovered through trial and error:
> >
> > half a teaspoon of baking soda
> > less than a half teaspoon of H2O2
> >
> > when you put it on it looks like weak skim milk and then when it dries
> > on my face it turns white.  I leave it on and go to sleep and most of it
> > goes off on my pillow case during the night.  In the morning I wash it off.
> >
> > so far, I have noted no change in my rosacea.  I have a few spots of rosacea
> > on my forehead and cheeks and of course a reddish nose. These reddish
> > spots aren't real bad but noticeable on me. I will give this a ten day
trial.
> >
> > doesn't look too promising so far. My initial response at this point is that
it
> > is still another one that works for Gabriella and may not work for others.
> > The Rosacea X-Factor Syndrome. But I think it is only fair to give it a
whirl.
> > But be warned, the H2O2 stings. The sting goes away after it dries. This may
> > be way to harsh for some sensitive skin types.
> >
> > Brady
> > group owner
> >
>

I have added a new page to my site listing the Anti-Flushing Treatments:

http://www.rosaceans.com/antiflushing.php

If you know of other treatments let me know so I can add them to the list,
please.

Brady
group owner

She did mention using it twice a day, something I don't have time for.  I did
try it last night. I deal with some redness of the cheeks and nose along with a
couple of veins showing near the jaw line.  I didn't experience any stinging, it
just felt cold on my face and that was a bit soothing.  I didn't sleep in it. I
washed it off after it had dried. My face felt pretty tight, which was annoying
since that same area is quite dry.
Considering some other comments she made, it had me wondering if the case wasn't
one of her skin responding to the hydrogen peroxide's "fading" properties.
--- In rosaceans@yahoogroups.com, "Brady Barrows" <bradybarrows@...> wrote:
>
> I am on my fourth night time application and have found the following
> recipe I discovered through trial and error:
>
> half a teaspoon of baking soda
> less than a half teaspoon of H2O2
>
> when you put it on it looks like weak skim milk and then when it dries
> on my face it turns white.  I leave it on and go to sleep and most of it
> goes off on my pillow case during the night.  In the morning I wash it off.
>
> so far, I have noted no change in my rosacea.  I have a few spots of rosacea
> on my forehead and cheeks and of course a reddish nose. These reddish
> spots aren't real bad but noticeable on me. I will give this a ten day trial.
>
> doesn't look too promising so far. My initial response at this point is that
it
> is still another one that works for Gabriella and may not work for others.
> The Rosacea X-Factor Syndrome. But I think it is only fair to give it a whirl.
> But be warned, the H2O2 stings. The sting goes away after it dries. This may
> be way to harsh for some sensitive skin types.
>
> Brady
> group owner
>