Well, it happened after a few days of eating the ham. The days after when I did
not eat the deli ham, I didn't flare. In a couple of the cases, I was in my
office where there were no environmental changes. I was indoors on all ocassions
and had not changed anything about what I use on my face. I'm inclined to
believe it was something in the ham, perhaps something as simple as too much
sodium? that is about the only thing I can find in common between the deli ham
and the meal eaten that did not have deli ham that I had a flare up an hour
after consuming. It could have been too much salt in the potato salad.
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> everyone of the chemical trigger list does it to me.
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> I have really oily skin on top of it.
> not the acne part, though, I do get a now and then pimple in summer.
> along my cheekbones and forehead get red and very sensitive and burning.
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> a bit blotchy looking and very touchy. looks like a mild sunburn on me.
> summer heat is another factor. when I get hot.
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> it does fade in a few days and will be 'normal' for a while or just a tiny bit
pink.
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> If I drink Coffee, it doesn't affect me, nor green tea.
> I don't drink it hot though.
> when I have no caffeine, I flush!  I drank coffee every morning in the winter
and notice im lighter. seems caffeine constricts the blood vessels for me
anyway.
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> I can use no topical medications at all.
> and my face wash has to be free & clear liquid cleanser, no bar soap!
> products with green tea,chamomile and willowherb seem to help me.
> like my shave gel, it is fragrance-free and has those ingredients.
> its the only I can use.
> for a little moisture I USE REPLENIX green tea serum with caffeine.
> I use it sparingly on my chin and forehead and throat.
> it adds just a touch of moisture and is soothing. in summer, I use it 3 x a
week.
> that's I can do.
> sunscreens, no no..even the zinc based ones are too thick and oily.
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> food now, I see very little change in diet, ive ate bread, some chicken and
had none.
> had chocolate and do ok.
> ive cut dairy out and still see it now and then?
> even sugar..I think my flares are topical related skin care! never a wash
cloth on my face.
> and the weather and anxiety do it to me for sure.
> it still happens despite my best efforts.
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> its hard to tell what causes one flare!
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> From: Brady Barrows <bradybarrows@...>
> Subject: [rosaceans] Re: Chemical Triggers
> To: rosaceans@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 12:59 AM
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> I haven't heard or seen on any trigger list (except Joie De Vie) any chemicals
in meats that may trigger rosacea, but who knows, maybe some chemical will be
discovered that triggers rosacea that is found in deli meats.
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> Joie De Vie has the most massive trigger list ever devised:
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> http://www.joiedevi e.com/common_ rosacea_triggers lists.htm
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> In my book, I break the rosacea triggers into five categories:
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> Food & Drink, Oral Drugs, Topicals, Environment/ Exposures, and Physiological.
My list is fairly comprehensive.
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> Acetone
> Alcohol
> Alpha hydroxy acids
> Anti-Aging
> Astringents
> Azelaic acid
> Benzoyl Peroxide
> Beta-Hydroxy Acids
> Exfoliants
> Fragrance
> Hair Sprays
> Hydro-alcoholic
> Perfume
> Retinoids
> Skin Peels
> Salicylic Acid
> Soap
> Steroids
> Sunscreen
> Toners
> Triclosan
> Witch Hazel
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> As I mention in my chapter on rosacea triggers, what may trigger your rosacea
may not trigger another rosacean. Triggers seem to be very personal. And what is
triggering your rosacea may not be the meat. There are many other factors to
consider besides what you ate in the last 12 hours. Something you ate say 48
hours ago may accumulate and be a factor in your rosacea flare up. The other
confusion with triggers is that many rosaceans say a trigger causes a flush,
while the NRS defines a rosacea trigger as anything that may cause a rosacea
flare-up. Most rosaceans equate a flush with a rosacea flare up but not every
rosacean experiences flushing. Most rosaceans flush, but that doesn't mean that
every time you have a flush you will break out with rosacea. You may simply
flush and then your skin goes back to normal. A rosacea flare up doesn't go back
to normal and can be a problem for days. The other factor is that it may be
possible that your flare up
> described below may be caused by something in the environment rather than
from food or drink or a combination of both. Were you taking in oral or topical
medication? Did you have any physiological factors such as;
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> Anger
> Anxiety
> Caffeine withdrawal
> Chronic cough
> Embarrassment
> Exercise
> Frequent flushing
> Hot Flashes
> "Lift and load" jobs
> Menopause
> Straining
> Stress
> Valsalva maneuver
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> The other factors to consider that may be contributing to your rosacea flare
up to consider are the environment:
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> Cold
> Heat
> Hot baths
> HIV
> Humidity
> Saunas
> Simple overheating
> Sun
> Strong winds
> Ultraviolet radiation
> Washcloths
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> These are just some things you might want to consider and as has been
suggested, keeping a diary of what you are doing, eating & drinking, using
topically and orally are all things to consider when understanding your rosacea
triggers. And the other thing to keep in mind is trigger and flushing avoidance
is simply one of five ways to control rosacea. I cover all five major ways to
control rosacea in my book.
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> Brady
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> --- In rosaceans@yahoogrou ps.com, "Mechelle" <txcactusblossom@ ...> wrote:
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> > Are there any identified chemical triggers that would be involved in the
process of making packaged deli meats? Recently, I got on a kick of taking
sandwiches for lunch. The meats I was eating were deli sliced chicken and smoked
ham from the same company. On the fourth day I noticed my cheeks getting real
hot and I assumed red. I was sitting at my desk without anyone to comment when I
first noticed. I could feel the heat. This happened an hour or so after lunch.
It happened again on Friday and then later that evening, about an hour after
dinner. The evening flare up would lead me to believe that there was possibly
something in common between those deli meats and what was served at a relative's
home, although I'm not quite sure what except to think maybe it was something in
the dressing on the broccoli-cauliflowe r salad.
> > Since I stopped eating the meats, I've not had another flare up. I don't
believe the bread is to blame as I had eaten it both before and since the flare
up and have not had a reaction.
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