Hello everyone

     I have been using zz cream and my face seem to repond good to it,now my face

is so dryand red and blochey.On the jar it said you get worse before you got

better.As you all



    know it is hard to go out when your face is a mess.Is there any natural

products that work.I kown from reading from this site it is trial and error.

                                           Pete





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Pete,



I am also using the zz cream and have had a horrible outbreak of

P&Ps for the past two weeks.  Just today it seems to be finally

healing and stopping.  How long has your "bad" period lasted?  I am

trying to judge whether this is just another flare for me, or if

it's the "worse before it gets better" time that the ZZ web site

describes.



Thanks,

Sue Ann





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<papapete161@...> wrote:

>

> Hello everyone

>     I have been using zz cream and my face seem to repond good to

it,now my face is so dryand red and blochey.On the jar it said you

get worse before you got better.As you all

>

>    know it is hard to go out when your face is a mess.Is there any

natural products that work.I kown from reading from this site it is

trial and error.

>                                           Pete

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It is a tough call whether to keep using the ZZ cream or not. It may be

getting worse before it gets better, or you may be allergic to it.  It is

your call.



I suggest use a moisturizer during the day.  Some use Jojoba Oil,

Emu Oil, Tea Tree Cream, or Rose Hip Oil.  Use whatever moisturizer

you know that has helped you in the past.  Something to help the

dryness. I have used Noredol gel which is derived from mint.  However,

you have to find what works best for your skin.



Only use the ZZ cream at night.  Wash it off in the morning and

apply the moisturizer during the day.



You should know in a few days if this works or not.



Brady



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>

> Hello everyone

>     I have been using zz cream and my face seem to repond good to it,now my

face is so

dryand red and blochey.On the jar it said you get worse before you got better.As

you all

>

>    know it is hard to go out when your face is a mess.Is there any natural

products that

work.I kown from reading from this site it is trial and error.

>                                           Pete

>

>

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Hello

    I just came back from the fourth dermatologist.The others put me on

tazorac,finacea,metrogel,doxycycline,tetracycline.This dr.said i had a mild case

of rosacea.About 4 weeks ago i stopped all meds and started to use zz cream and

my face started to heal.The dr. is going to put me on a mixture of metro cream

and zine oxide and sulfur.The zz cream worked wonders and the dr. said it did a

good job.I will see the dr. in 3 months.I'll keep you posted.I still want a dr.

to check me and i think i finally got a good one.

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Evening all,



   I am new to the group and I have just been diagnosed with Rosacea. For a

couple of months now I have been getting out of the shower and I would have

these areas that were really red and painful with little bumps. My fiance has

been asking me to see a dermatologist but I kept saying it was just dry skin. I

am a teacher and I had a really bad semester. So by the end of the day my face

and ears would be bright red. I just brushed it off to being warm in my

classroom. After trying cream after cream and washing my face with everything

known to man I decided to go to the doctors. Sure enough, he told me it was

Rosacea.



   I explained to him that am getting married in three weeks and I didn't want to

have these nasty bumps or redness all over my face. He prescribed me Galderma

and told me that I would need to use it for 2 weeks before I see any results.

The redness has gone somewhat but the bumps are still there. I have been

drinking water like a mad woman to see if that would help clear up my face. I

was wondering, since my face is VERY sensitive, if anyone knew of anything that

would help clear up the bumps a little faster?



   Also, I did research about make up for the redness and I read that a green

base helps get rid of the red. I bought some Physicians Formula and tried

it....but my face has a green glow. Tell me what I am doing wrong!!!



   Thanks,



   Jenn





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Hi Jenn,

   Congratulations on your upcoming wedding!!



   I use physicians formula green sometimes.  First I apply my moisturizer and

then after about 15 sec (after the moisturizer has been absorbed) I apply the

Physician's formula where there is pinkness.  I apply it with my index finger

sparingly gently patting and blending.  Then I apply a bit of translucent powder

to set it.  All in all I think less is more.  Use just enough to make your face

neutral.



   Hope that helps and good luck!

   Enjoy your big day no matter what!  Remember it's OK to be a blushing bride!



   All the best,

   Melissa

Jenn <j_deepred@...> wrote:

           Evening all,



I am new to the group and I have just been diagnosed with Rosacea. For a couple

of months now I have been getting out of the shower and I would have these areas

that were really red and painful with little bumps. My fiance has been asking me

to see a dermatologist but I kept saying it was just dry skin. I am a teacher

and I had a really bad semester. So by the end of the day my face and ears would

be bright red. I just brushed it off to being warm in my classroom. After trying

cream after cream and washing my face with everything known to man I decided to

go to the doctors. Sure enough, he told me it was Rosacea.



I explained to him that am getting married in three weeks and I didn't want to

have these nasty bumps or redness all over my face. He prescribed me Galderma

and told me that I would need to use it for 2 weeks before I see any results.

The redness has gone somewhat but the bumps are still there. I have been

drinking water like a mad woman to see if that would help clear up my face. I

was wondering, since my face is VERY sensitive, if anyone knew of anything that

would help clear up the bumps a little faster?



Also, I did research about make up for the redness and I read that a green base

helps get rid of the red. I bought some Physicians Formula and tried it....but

my face has a green glow. Tell me what I am doing wrong!!!



Thanks,



Jenn



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I have the same problem with the acne bumps,  I need something for them badly

and I have been drinking alot of water myself and not the bottled water because

they say it has some other stuff added to it. If you find something please let

me know. Thanks so much..



Jenn <j_deepred@...> wrote:          Evening all,



I am new to the group and I have just been diagnosed with Rosacea. For a couple

of months now I have been getting out of the shower and I would have these areas

that were really red and painful with little bumps. My fiance has been asking me

to see a dermatologist but I kept saying it was just dry skin. I am a teacher

and I had a really bad semester. So by the end of the day my face and ears would

be bright red. I just brushed it off to being warm in my classroom. After trying

cream after cream and washing my face with everything known to man I decided to

go to the doctors. Sure enough, he told me it was Rosacea.



I explained to him that am getting married in three weeks and I didn't want to

have these nasty bumps or redness all over my face. He prescribed me Galderma

and told me that I would need to use it for 2 weeks before I see any results.

The redness has gone somewhat but the bumps are still there. I have been

drinking water like a mad woman to see if that would help clear up my face. I

was wondering, since my face is VERY sensitive, if anyone knew of anything that

would help clear up the bumps a little faster?



Also, I did research about make up for the redness and I read that a green base

helps get rid of the red. I bought some Physicians Formula and tried it....but

my face has a green glow. Tell me what I am doing wrong!!!



Thanks,



Jenn



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Pete what type of symptoms did you have or have?  thanks Jan



Pete Willard <papapete161@...> wrote:          Hello

I just came back from the fourth dermatologist.The others put me on

tazorac,finacea,metrogel,doxycycline,tetracycline.This dr.said i had a mild case

of rosacea.About 4 weeks ago i stopped all meds and started to use zz cream and

my face started to heal.The dr. is going to put me on a mixture of metro cream

and zine oxide and sulfur.The zz cream worked wonders and the dr. said it did a

good job.I will see the dr. in 3 months.I'll keep you posted.I still want a dr.

to check me and i think i finally got a good one.

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Does the zzcream help acne?  Thanks



Pete Willard <papapete161@...> wrote:          Hello

I just came back from the fourth dermatologist.The others put me on

tazorac,finacea,metrogel,doxycycline,tetracycline.This dr.said i had a mild case

of rosacea.About 4 weeks ago i stopped all meds and started to use zz cream and

my face started to heal.The dr. is going to put me on a mixture of metro cream

and zine oxide and sulfur.The zz cream worked wonders and the dr. said it did a

good job.I will see the dr. in 3 months.I'll keep you posted.I still want a dr.

to check me and i think i finally got a good one.

Pete



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Hello

    A poll should be taken of the group who used zzcream and how many it worked

for and did not do any good,so FAR for me it works great.

                            thank you

                                        Pete





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Pete,



Any member can create a poll by clicking on the POLLS menu, the left menu on the

group

site. Then click on CREATE POLL near the top right.



I have created a database of comments of those who wish to comment on the ZZ

cream at

this url >



http://www.rosaceans.com/html/demodexdatabase.html?

key=zY315SNX&formname=demodex



There are only eight comments so far, but who knows, maybe it will grow?  I have

collected

a number of comments on the different groups who say the ZZ cream works at this

url >



http://www.rosaceans.com/html/z2.html



The above list is comments is significant since they are spread over several

groups.



Brady



--- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com, Pete Willard <papapete161@...> wrote:

>

> Hello

>    A poll should be taken of the group who used zzcream and how many it worked

for

and did not do any good,so FAR for me it works great.

>                            thank you

>                                        Pete

>

>

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>

Hi to all.



    ZZ cream is only thing that is working for me. Before I started using zz

cream my face

would be fire engine red for most of the time. And now my nose does not get as

red, if it

does than not for long. I am mostly pink like others, whom been on zz cream a

long time.

Also I wash my face with Desert Essence Thoroughly Clean Face Wash, before I use

zz

cream. This is 38th day of using zz cream. I use zz cream 2x a day.



Paul

--- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com, Pete Willard <papapete161@...> wrote:

>

> Hello

>    A poll should be taken of the group who used zzcream and how many it worked

for

and did not do any good,so FAR for me it works great.

>                            thank you

>                                        Pete

>

>

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>

Hello all,



It has been a while since I last posted. Just to let you all know my

face type, I am 32 year old female, dark hair, brown eyes, dry skin,

sensitive skin, pink skin, suffer from flushes (then red skin).  I am

looking for a foundation that will help with my dry skin.  I use Jane

Iredale pressed powder now and it accentuates my dry skin.  Also cannot

use aloe, causes skin to burn.



  Has anyone on here tried Aveda skin products??   Most of their face

products have very few ingredients, which interests me.  Also they have

a tinted moisturizer that looks good, but I always have reservations

about trying new products.  Not to mention, I have already spent a

fortune on products---as I am sure most of us have.

http://www.aveda.com/home.tmpl



The other question is about Classified Cosmetics Era Face foundation.

It is a spray foundation that Carmindy on TLC's What Not To Wear uses

and it looks great.  I am not sure how to apply it though or if it would

be good for the skin.  http://www.classifiedcosmetics.com/  You have to

skip the intro and go to products and then Era Face.  If anyone has used

this please let me know how it has worked for you.



Thanks so much to everyone!!



Russie





















paulstefanik wrote:

>

> Hi to all.

>

> ZZ cream is only thing that is working for me. Before I started using

> zz cream my face

> would be fire engine red for most of the time. And now my nose does

> not get as red, if it

> does than not for long. I am mostly pink like others, whom been on zz

> cream a long time.

> Also I wash my face with Desert Essence Thoroughly Clean Face Wash,

> before I use zz

> cream. This is 38th day of using zz cream. I use zz cream 2x a day.

>

> Paul

> --- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com

> <mailto:rosacea-support%40yahoogroups.com>, Pete Willard

> <papapete161@...> wrote:

> >

> > Hello

> > A poll should be taken of the group who used zzcream and how many it

> worked for

> and did not do any good,so FAR for me it works great.

> > thank you

> > Pete

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

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> > in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A.

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> >

>

>







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--- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com, russie smith

<russiesmith@...> wrote:

>Hi Russie,



Check oout Ecco Bella liquid foundation - it's natural, organic and

looks very good on skin.



Yana

> Hello all,

>

> It has been a while since I last posted. Just to let you all know

my

> face type, I am 32 year old female, dark hair, brown eyes, dry

skin,

> sensitive skin, pink skin, suffer from flushes (then red skin).  I

am

> looking for a foundation that will help with my dry skin.  I use

Jane

> Iredale pressed powder now and it accentuates my dry skin.  Also

cannot

> use aloe, causes skin to burn.

>

>  Has anyone on here tried Aveda skin products??   Most of their

face

> products have very few ingredients, which interests me.  Also they

have

> a tinted moisturizer that looks good, but I always have

reservations

> about trying new products.  Not to mention, I have already spent a

> fortune on products---as I am sure most of us have.

> http://www.aveda.com/home.tmpl

>

> The other question is about Classified Cosmetics Era Face

foundation.

> It is a spray foundation that Carmindy on TLC's What Not To Wear

uses

> and it looks great.  I am not sure how to apply it though or if it

would

> be good for the skin.  http://www.classifiedcosmetics.com/  You

have to

> skip the intro and go to products and then Era Face.  If anyone has

used

> this please let me know how it has worked for you.

>

> Thanks so much to everyone!!

>

> Russie

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> paulstefanik wrote:

> >

> > Hi to all.

> >

> > ZZ cream is only thing that is working for me. Before I started

using

> > zz cream my face

> > would be fire engine red for most of the time. And now my nose

does

> > not get as red, if it

> > does than not for long. I am mostly pink like others, whom been

on zz

> > cream a long time.

> > Also I wash my face with Desert Essence Thoroughly Clean Face

Wash,

> > before I use zz

> > cream. This is 38th day of using zz cream. I use zz cream 2x a

day.

> >

> > Paul

> > --- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com

> > <mailto:rosacea-support%40yahoogroups.com>, Pete Willard

> > <papapete161@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hello

> > > A poll should be taken of the group who used zzcream and how

many it

> > worked for

> > and did not do any good,so FAR for me it works great.

> > > thank you

> > > Pete

> > >

> > >

> > > ---------------------------------

> > > Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate

> > > in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A.

> > >

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> > >

> >

> >

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>

Brady

     I went to the site you gave me and there were alot of good comments on the

zcream.I've had good results from the cream.

                            Thank you Brady

                                        Pete







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Research I have been doing shows that the demodex mite could be a possible

cause of rosacea and skin conditions.  Has anyone gone this route, such as using

zhongzhou cream from Demodex Solutions or using Permethrin 5% (over the counter

in Canada but need prescripton in the US) I'm thinking of trying these and

wondered if any other rosacea victims have tried these. I also have something

else, maybe seb derm or psoriasis.  thanks Julie





      

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I am Chinese living in the U.S.  From what I read on the Chinese newspaper, ZZ

cream contains steroids.



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Wouldnt steroids be listed in the ingredients packaging?

Thats a great question.

I have never used zz cream but might try it at some point. I know one

cream that usually helps me that I have used for a few years is a

sulfur based cream.



Does the packaging for the zz cream list ingredients?



Amon

Sometimes, some manufactor won't do that.  As far as I remembered, it was tested

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