I just got my Pevonia today.  The 30 day trial for $40 very pricey, arn't they
all.  They said I could return it if it did'nt help.  I was reading about skin
problems in a plastic surgery mag.  It was stating the importance of using a
gentile cleanser to not upset the P.H. balance of the skin.




________________________________
From: Diane Zablotsky <dzablotsky@...>
To: rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 16, 2009 9:09:03 PM
Subject: Re: [rosacea] Re: Hi Nurse artist wondering if your still here

I just started using Pevonia RS2 line about 2 weeks ago.  So far i notice I
difference in the texture of my skin, but not in the redness.  Of course, 2
weeks is too short to judge much!

I believe the concentrate and the cream do have glycerin.

On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 1:30 AM, nurse_artist <nurse_artist@...>wrote:

>
>
> Hi Eliz, No I have not tried that one. There are only a handful of products
> I am able to use. Right now I'm avoiding products with glycerin since my new
> dermatologist thinks I'm allergic to it. I assume Pevonia has glycerin in
> it, but if it doesn't be sure to let me know!
>
> Cheers!
>
> Artist
>
>
> --- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com <rosacea-support%40yahoogroups.com>,
> Elizabeth Govreau <elizabethgov@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi ,
> > Have you tried Prevonia its a salon line for rosesea.
> >
> > Eliz.

I just started using Pevonia RS2 line about 2 weeks ago.  So far i notice I
difference in the texture of my skin, but not in the redness.  Of course, 2
weeks is too short to judge much!

I believe the concentrate and the cream do have glycerin.

On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 1:30 AM, nurse_artist <nurse_artist@...>wrote:

>
>
> Hi Eliz, No I have not tried that one. There are only a handful of products
> I am able to use. Right now I'm avoiding products with glycerin since my new
> dermatologist thinks I'm allergic to it. I assume Pevonia has glycerin in
> it, but if it doesn't be sure to let me know!
>
> Cheers!
>
> Artist
>
>
> --- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com <rosacea-support%40yahoogroups.com>,
> Elizabeth Govreau <elizabethgov@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi ,
> > Have you tried Prevonia its a salon line for rosesea.
> >
> > Eliz.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: nurse_artist <nurse_artist@...>
>
> > To: rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com <rosacea-support%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Thu, November 12, 2009 4:41:10 PM
> > Subject: [rosacea] Re: Hi Nurse artist wondering if your still here
> >
> > Â
>
> > Hi Janine: Well thank you! How nice of you to say that. Those mixes got
> me though some hard times with my skin, and I think it's fun. Since then
> I've had a baby and worked hard to simplify my skin routine. I tried Finacea
> (topical rosacea gel) and I must say it has made my skin so much more
> resilient. Now I just use the mixes when I want to pamper my skin. I can now
> get by on daily basis now just washing, moisturizing, apply Finacea, take
> Oracea, and sunscreen. I even got my red light routine down to two or three
> times per week and IPL down to only one per year at the most.
> >
> > Anyway, I would still love to answer questions you might have. I don't
> sell any mixes, but it just takes a little practice. Really, if you have a
> moisturizer you like you can just add a tiny pinch of whatever (licorice is
> a favorite) and mix! Maybe the first order of business is finding a
> moisturizer your skin likes?
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> > Artist
> >
> > --- In rosacea-support@ yahoogroups. com, "Janine" <janines4boys@ ...>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > i have been reading up alot on your recipes on one of these sites, but
> i am not to brave to try them, is it possible you sell your things already
> made. where to do you get those little vials oh and i have so manyt other
> questions i hope you are stil here and have a chance to get back to me and
> btw ur skin loooks amazing!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > janine
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi Eliz, No I have not tried that one. There are only a handful of products I am
able to use. Right now I'm avoiding products with glycerin since my new
dermatologist thinks I'm allergic to it. I assume Pevonia has glycerin in it,
but if it doesn't be sure to let me know!

Cheers!

Artist

--- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com, Elizabeth Govreau <elizabethgov@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi ,
> Have you tried Prevonia its a salon line for rosesea.
>
> Eliz.
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: nurse_artist <nurse_artist@...>
> To: rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thu, November 12, 2009 4:41:10 PM
> Subject: [rosacea] Re: Hi Nurse artist wondering if your still here
>
>  
> Hi Janine: Well thank you! How nice of you to say that. Those mixes got me
though some hard times with my skin, and I think it's fun. Since then I've had a
baby and worked hard to simplify my skin routine. I tried Finacea (topical
rosacea gel) and I must say it has made my skin so much more resilient. Now I
just use the mixes when I want to pamper my skin. I can now get by on daily
basis now just washing, moisturizing, apply Finacea, take Oracea, and sunscreen.
I even got my red light routine down to two or three times per week and IPL down
to only one per year at the most.
>
> Anyway, I would still love to answer questions you might have. I don't sell
any mixes, but it just takes a little practice. Really, if you have a
moisturizer you like you can just add a tiny pinch of whatever (licorice is a
favorite) and mix! Maybe the first order of business is finding a moisturizer
your skin likes?
>
> Cheers!
>
> Artist
>
> --- In rosacea-support@ yahoogroups. com, "Janine" <janines4boys@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > i have been reading up alot on your recipes on one of these sites, but i am
not to brave to try them, is it possible you sell your things already made.
where to do you get those little vials oh and i have so manyt other questions i
hope you are stil here and have a chance to get back to me and btw ur skin
loooks amazing!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!
> >
> >
> >
> > janine
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

If you know what ingredients you want to avoid in products, you can do a search
at this website that finds all products with and/or without the ingredients that
you type in. It's really great!

I was able to find all products without sd alcohol, witch hazel, glycerin,
fragrance etc. (the things that I know irritate my skin). Glycerin is hard to
avoid, so this was a great find for me.

Here is a link to the advanced search page where you can do this. Scroll down
and you will see how to do it. The database is huge. It seems like just about
every single skin care product is in it.

http://www.cosmeticsdatabase.com/search.php

Cheers!

Artist

Leah;
   Vitamin B6 is sometimes recommended to reduce a flush. A derm on line
suggested
taking B6, chlortrimeton and drinking ice water when experiencing a flush. I
take it mid-afternoon with no neg side-effects.
      Be vigilant out there.
      Lynne

--- On Sun, 11/15/09, leah_marie1980 <leah_marie1980@...> wrote:


From: leah_marie1980 <leah_marie1980@...>
Subject: [rosacea] Vitamin B Complex
To: rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 15, 2009, 11:40 PM


 



Does anyone know if Vitamin B helps roscea or makes it worse? I've read both and
I'm concerned as I just started taking Vit. B COmplex.

Thanks,
Leah











[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

yes, the ones in the green bottles.  They are listed as $22 for the cream and
$15 for the cleanser, but I've never had to pay full price as they are always on
sale - 20% usually.  Or I get a $10 coupon for anything in the store and then
they are practically free.

I haven't tried other products for Rosacea, just Cetaphil lotion on my face
after the shower.

I've been using Good Skin for about 6 months now.  My rosacea isn't the worst
case, but it's noticeable and people do ask why my face is red.  I hope to do
IPL treatments in the future when I can afford them.
I don't wear make up.

--- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com, "Aurelia.Dawn" <aurelia.dawn@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Natanya,
>
> Thanks for posting about your new finds. By "the cleanser and moisturizing
cream", do you mean Good Skin's All Calm Creamy Cleanser and All Calm Moisture
Lotion, listed as suitable for "red/irritated skin"?:
> http://www.goodskindermcare.com
>
> So they stopped your itch and helped tone down redness, both of which are
commonly associated with irritation from dryness. Looks like another vote for
keeping the skin well hydrated. Had it felt very dry?
>
> May we know how long you have been using the Good Skin topicals? Also, how the
prices compare with similar lines you have tried in the past?
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Aurelia
>

Does anyone know if Vitamin B helps roscea or makes it worse?  I've read both
and I'm concerned as I just started taking Vit. B COmplex.

Thanks,
Leah

Thanks, Artist.

Dry mineral powders as a whole might not usually include preservatives, but the
Glominerals pressed base has methylparaben and propylparaben added, along with
several other things I recognise and some I don't, for example, boron nitride
and phytonadione, which are presumably relatively inert. :)

> What I did to avoid contamination was pour a tiny bit into my palm, then put
the brush in that and use it. I never put the brush directly into the mineral
container. <

That sounds good. I'll break up the compressed cake a little to get loose
powder.

> I also washed and dried the brush thoroughly twice a week or so. <

I now have two brushes, so that will be especially easy.

Many thanks,

Aurelia

Wow you must be busy with four kids! A lot of women find that their rosacea
improves a lot while they are pregnant, so maybe that will happen to you!  Mine
was about the same, but I struggled because I had to go off of my rosacea
medications of course.

Sounds like you have a good routine. My thinking is that AHAs cause
inflammation, which makes rosacea worse. I avoid anything that would excite the
skin, such as steam, hot water (use luke-warm), exfoliating scrubs, scrubbing,
AHAs, etc.

How long have you been using the doxy and finacea?
If it were me, I'd wait the full two or three months after starting the Finacea
and Doxy to see where my skin levels out. It could be that, once the meds fully
kick in, your skin is wonderful and you need to do nothing further.

Since using Finacea, my skin is not as reactive and sensitive as it used to be
so I think I could probably use more of the actives that stabilize blood vessels
like horse chestnut to improve things even further. When/if you are ready, it
might be fun for you to just try one thing at a time for a few weeks, starting
with the actives that target what you want to do. One thing to keep in mind is
that a lot of active ingredients cause dryness, so you really must use a good,
thick moisturizer like Vanicream moisturizing skin cream.

Licorice is great for me when I use it, but your favorite could be totally
different. Regarding the two week test spot, It's probably reasonable to just
use your judgement. If there was no reaction at all for a solid four days, you
might increase the size of the test area for the next several days until you are
using it on  your whole face. This way you can see what each individual
ingredient does for or to your skin. I say this now that my skin is "tougher",
so if your skin is super fragile and reactive, you might want to stick to the
two week test spot.

A new development for me is that I switched from Dermo Cleanser to the Cetaphil
gentle cleansing bar (not the antibacterial one). I really think it cleans my
skin better, which is helpful for rosacea. Lipase and any other buildup on our
skin can cause irritation. The problem before was that my skin was too sensitive
for a good, thick moisturizer. Now, however, I can use one, which counteracts
the dryness the cetaphil bar alone would cause.

The only way I know of to destroy or "reboot" the damaged capillaries is with
laser therapy or IPL therapy. It's really expensive, however, and I am so glad
the Finacea has helped me get down to only needing one every year or year and a
half. $350 per year isn't too bad...

Redness can be diminished with red light therapy (rlt). It doesn't destroy the
capillaries, but it does dampen down the redness with daily use over a few
months (and continued long-term).


Cheers!

Artist

--- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com, "Janine" <janines4boys@...> wrote:
>
> HI ok here is where i am now!!
>
> i take doxy 100 2x a day
> finacea now at night
> dermo cleanser morning and night
> and toleraine moisturizer
> so far my skin is reacting well to this but i want to boost it up a notch like
replenish all the damage i have done.
> why are aha not good?
> I was on skinactives the other night and was going to order everything that
you had given a recipe for but then thought i would just ask your opionion.  so
i guess i want to help reboot my capillaries and try and fade some  and try and
keep from flushing which im done to like 1-2 times a day.
> do you really need to do a little test spot for 2 weeks that has to be so
hard? i hope to hear soon congrats on the baby enjoy now i have 4 and  i wouldl
like another but am afraid with this rosacea how my skin will handle it.  i just
got dx
> j
>

Oh you mean the dry mineral powders? No, they don't have preservatives and, yes,
bacteria probably wouldn't build up as much in the dry environment. I think some
bacteria could build up, though. I used powdered minerals years ago (Jane
Iredale). What I did to avoid contamination was pour a tiny bit into my palm,
then put the brush in that and use it. I never put the brush directly into the
mineral container. I'm not sure how much bacterial contamination I prevented by
doing that, but it was easy enough to do, just in case..

I also washed and dried the brush thoroughly twice a week or so.

Cheers!

Artist

--- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com, "Aurelia.Dawn" <aurelia.dawn@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Artist,
>
> Thanks so much for that advice. I never thought about the minerals having
preservatives. It's so hard to eliminate mites, I was just thinking that the
powder might be a way of reintroducing them to the skin.
>
> On reflection, I guess minerals are probably not a place they could live
easily, if at all. Nowhere near as tempting as warm, moist pores on a dark
night. ;)
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Aurelia
>

Hi Gabriella!  The Tetracycline was fine and I didn't mind taking it at all. My
new dermatologist (he's awesome) suggested I give Oracea a try. I decided I
would try it for six months or so and switch back to Tetracycline if things
didn't go well. I figured why not try it. If it worked just as well, I would
feel good being on lower dose therapy. Also, I read that oracea is better taken
up by the skin and the study I read was convincing..that it is as effective as
higher dose antibiotics. Either way, I will use whatever works better on my skin
in the end.

Some other benefits of Oracea are that it's only taken once a day and you don't
have to worry about food interacting with it. Avoiding calcium before and after
taking Tetracycline twice a day is a pain for me.

The derm said I could just stop the Tetracycline but I decided to wean myself. I
started the Oracea about six weeks ago, and am weaning myself off the
Tetracycline at the same time. I cut my Tetracycline in half the first month and
now in half again the second month, then I'll go down to twice a week until I'm
out (maybe another month).

How long did it take for you to get a rebound effect?  I do worry that my skin
will rebound at any moment. eeek!  So far my skin is great and I think the
Finacea is making that possible. We'll see, though..  I don't mind going back on
Tetracycline if I have a rebound. I believe it can happen anywhere up to six
months after stopping, so I'll just have to monitor things and play it by ear.

How long after stopping did you rebound? Were you sure it was a rebound?

Cheers!

Artist




--- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com, "Gabriella" <gabri_gallo@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Artist!
>
> Glad to hear that you are doing well.  In your post, I saw that you are using
Oracea now -- did you go from the Tetracyline to the Oracea -- how did that
work?
>
> I'm curious because I've had good results from Tetracylcine 500 mg 2 x a day. 
When I tried to wean off to 1 x a day, I got a rebound effect.  So, I went back
to 2 x a day and had my dr. Rx some 250 mg., so I can wean off more slowly,
which I am trying to do now.  I would love to wean off all the way, but am not
sure how to best go about it.
>
> I tried Oracea before (for 3 months) and didn't see any benefits.
>
> Would love to hear more about how you're using the Oracea.  Had you used it
before, etc.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gabriella
>
>
>
>
> --- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com, "nurse_artist" <nurse_artist@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Janine:   Well thank you! How nice of you to say that. Those mixes got me
though some hard times with my skin, and I think it's fun. Since then I've had a
baby and worked hard to simplify my skin routine. I tried Finacea (topical
rosacea gel) and I must say it has made my skin so much more resilient. Now I
just use the mixes when I want to pamper my skin. I can now get by on daily
basis now just washing, moisturizing, apply Finacea, take Oracea, and sunscreen.
I even got my red light routine down to two or three times per week and IPL down
to only one per year at the most.
> >
> > Anyway, I would still love to answer questions you might have. I don't sell
any mixes, but it just takes a little practice. Really, if you have a
moisturizer you like you can just add a tiny pinch of whatever (licorice is a
favorite) and mix! Maybe the first order of business is finding a moisturizer
your skin likes?
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> > Artist
> > --- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com, "Janine" <janines4boys@> wrote:
> > >
> > >  i have been reading up alot on your recipes on one of these sites, but i
am not to brave to try them, is it possible you sell your things already made. 
where to do you get those little vials oh and i have so manyt other questions i
hope you are stil here and have a chance to get back to me  and btw ur skin
loooks amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > janine
> > >
> >
>

I've been using seabuckthorn oil from bluesagenaturals.com for about 5 days now
and so far I like the way my skin feels after
I put it on but it seems I'm still getting small whiteheads by morning. I'm
wondering if anyone has had experience with this oil and
a purging effect in the beginning.  I know there were a few users out there but
when I checked the archives i didnt see anyone mention this.
Anyone have any good ideas for the constant little whiteheads and how to get rid
of them.  I've tried differin, finacea, clindamycin and
cannot get my pores to stop clogging in my chin area.  It seems all the gentle
creamy cleanser are too emollient and plug up my skin while
cetaphyl (for oily skin) and scrubs rip my face apart.  Please help!!  I spend
hours in front of the mirror picking and examining that its all
i think about.

Diaen




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi Artist!

Glad to hear that you are doing well.  In your post, I saw that you are using
Oracea now -- did you go from the Tetracyline to the Oracea -- how did that
work?

I'm curious because I've had good results from Tetracylcine 500 mg 2 x a day. 
When I tried to wean off to 1 x a day, I got a rebound effect.  So, I went back
to 2 x a day and had my dr. Rx some 250 mg., so I can wean off more slowly,
which I am trying to do now.  I would love to wean off all the way, but am not
sure how to best go about it.

I tried Oracea before (for 3 months) and didn't see any benefits.

Would love to hear more about how you're using the Oracea.  Had you used it
before, etc.

Thanks,

Gabriella




--- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com, "nurse_artist" <nurse_artist@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Janine:   Well thank you! How nice of you to say that. Those mixes got me
though some hard times with my skin, and I think it's fun. Since then I've had a
baby and worked hard to simplify my skin routine. I tried Finacea (topical
rosacea gel) and I must say it has made my skin so much more resilient. Now I
just use the mixes when I want to pamper my skin. I can now get by on daily
basis now just washing, moisturizing, apply Finacea, take Oracea, and sunscreen.
I even got my red light routine down to two or three times per week and IPL down
to only one per year at the most.
>
> Anyway, I would still love to answer questions you might have. I don't sell
any mixes, but it just takes a little practice. Really, if you have a
moisturizer you like you can just add a tiny pinch of whatever (licorice is a
favorite) and mix! Maybe the first order of business is finding a moisturizer
your skin likes?
>
> Cheers!
>
> Artist
> --- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com, "Janine" <janines4boys@> wrote:
> >
> >  i have been reading up alot on your recipes on one of these sites, but i am
not to brave to try them, is it possible you sell your things already made. 
where to do you get those little vials oh and i have so manyt other questions i
hope you are stil here and have a chance to get back to me  and btw ur skin
loooks amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> >
> >
> > janine
> >
>

Hi Natanya,

Thanks for posting about your new finds. By "the cleanser and moisturizing
cream", do you mean Good Skin's All Calm Creamy Cleanser and All Calm Moisture
Lotion, listed as suitable for "red/irritated skin"?:
http://www.goodskindermcare.com

So they stopped your itch and helped tone down redness, both of which are
commonly associated with irritation from dryness. Looks like another vote for
keeping the skin well hydrated. Had it felt very dry?

May we know how long you have been using the Good Skin topicals? Also, how the
prices compare with similar lines you have tried in the past?

Kind regards,

Aurelia

Has anyone tried these?  I found out about them from a rosacea website that
reviews products.  I bought the cleanser and moisturizing cream.  they are
always on sale.  My face isn't itchy anymore and the redness isn't as severe
probably since my skin is adequately hydrated now.  It doesn't make me break
out, but I never had pimples much in general.  Just thought I'd mention it and
wonder if anyone else has tried it.
Natanya

Hi Artist,

Thanks so much for that advice. I never thought about the minerals having
preservatives. It's so hard to eliminate mites, I was just thinking that the
powder might be a way of reintroducing them to the skin.

On reflection, I guess minerals are probably not a place they could live easily,
if at all. Nowhere near as tempting as warm, moist pores on a dark night. ;)

Kind regards,

Aurelia

Hi:  I wouldn't worry too much about it if the product has preservatives and you
wash the brush at least once or twice a week. Let the brush dry in the sun,
since sunlight is antibacterial :)

Cheers!

Artist

--- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com, "Aurelia.Dawn" <aurelia.dawn@...> wrote:
>
> Hi.
>
> Some say that if you have bacteria and/or Demodex mites on your face, as most
people do, topical products such as make-up can easily be contaminated by
dipping the applicator (whether that is a finger, brush or make-up sponge) back
into the product after letting it touch the skin. Does anyone know the facts
about that, please?
>
> The foundation I use is Glominerals' pressed base, which is a solid cake of
minerals supplied with a powder puff and no shaker. I apply the minerals with a
soft brush, but not enough powder adheres to the brush to cover my face with one
dip and it usually takes three "passes", as in dippings and fluffings.
>
> Before opening a brand-new compact, I would really appreciate any comments or
advice on keeping it clean, thanks.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Aurelia
>

HI ok here is where i am now!!

i take doxy 100 2x a day
finacea now at night
dermo cleanser morning and night
and toleraine moisturizer
so far my skin is reacting well to this but i want to boost it up a notch like
replenish all the damage i have done.
why are aha not good?
I was on skinactives the other night and was going to order everything that you
had given a recipe for but then thought i would just ask your opionion.  so i
guess i want to help reboot my capillaries and try and fade some  and try and
keep from flushing which im done to like 1-2 times a day.
do you really need to do a little test spot for 2 weeks that has to be so hard?
i hope to hear soon congrats on the baby enjoy now i have 4 and  i wouldl like
another but am afraid with this rosacea how my skin will handle it.  i just got
dx
j

Hi Elizabeth,

> Have you heard of Zenmed they have a line out for rosasea. <

You might perhaps like to read what our board owner wrote earlier this year on
our direct-posting board, the Rosacea Support Community:

http://rosacea-support.org/community/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=203


"Zenmed is quite a tricky product to get good information about. It is well
marketed and it sure is hard to find genuine looking user reviews that like it.
As well as quite a few web sites that sell and promote it on the internet, it
appears that there are also fake reviews and fake forum postings appearing. Note
to ZENMED, spamming does nothing for you - we need to see real reports from real
users !

So I tried to collect reviews here:
http://rosacea-support.org/zenmed-user-reviews.html

I hope this collection of comments helps a little - have to say it doesn't look
all that promising - even though the list of ingredients is potentially
interesting."


Kind regards,

Aurelia

Hi Elizabeth,

Welcome to our group! :)

It is usually upsetting to get the diagnosis of rosacea, but it isn't as bad as
you might fear from hearing that there is as yet no cure. Instead there are a
wide range of treatments. Although none has so far ever worked for everyone,
most people are able to get considerable relief from putting together their own
special treatment regime. The big problem is that it usually takes a while to
figure out which things will work well for YOU.

Red wine, spicy food and hot drinks are common triggers for many rosaceans, but
they certainly don't affect everyone. You might find that they have absolutely
no effect on you so you can enjoy them to your heart's content. Just keep an eye
on how you do after consuming them, preferably not testing them all at once. :)

My favourite cleanser is the Gentle Skin Cleanser made by Cetaphil. I team it
with Cetaphil's Moisturising Lotion for dry, sensitive skin. Neither clog the
pores.

> Have you heard of Zenmed they have a line out for rosasea. <

Yes, Zenmed advertise their rosacea line extensively, but only a few genuine
rosaceans have posted that it worked for them. Zenmed used to send out spammers
to post fake testimonials, which isn't nice.

May I ask what kind of symptoms you have, and how long have they been evident?
Also, what your current skin care regime is like?

Kind regards and best of luck,

Aurelia

That's Pevonia

Eliz.




________________________________
From: nurse_artist <nurse_artist@...>
To: rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, November 12, 2009 4:41:10 PM
Subject: [rosacea] Re: Hi Nurse artist wondering if your still here

 
Hi Janine: Well thank you! How nice of you to say that. Those mixes got me
though some hard times with my skin, and I think it's fun. Since then I've had a
baby and worked hard to simplify my skin routine. I tried Finacea (topical
rosacea gel) and I must say it has made my skin so much more resilient. Now I
just use the mixes when I want to pamper my skin. I can now get by on daily
basis now just washing, moisturizing, apply Finacea, take Oracea, and sunscreen.
I even got my red light routine down to two or three times per week and IPL down
to only one per year at the most.

Anyway, I would still love to answer questions you might have. I don't sell any
mixes, but it just takes a little practice. Really, if you have a moisturizer
you like you can just add a tiny pinch of whatever (licorice is a favorite) and
mix! Maybe the first order of business is finding a moisturizer your skin likes?

Cheers!

Artist
--- In rosacea-support@ yahoogroups. com, "Janine" <janines4boys@ ...> wrote:
>
> i have been reading up alot on your recipes on one of these sites, but i am
not to brave to try them, is it possible you sell your things already made.
where to do you get those little vials oh and i have so manyt other questions i
hope you are stil here and have a chance to get back to me and btw ur skin
loooks amazing!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!
>
>
>
> janine
>







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Hi ,
Have you tried Prevonia its a salon line for rosesea.

Eliz.




________________________________
From: nurse_artist <nurse_artist@...>
To: rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, November 12, 2009 4:41:10 PM
Subject: [rosacea] Re: Hi Nurse artist wondering if your still here

 
Hi Janine: Well thank you! How nice of you to say that. Those mixes got me
though some hard times with my skin, and I think it's fun. Since then I've had a
baby and worked hard to simplify my skin routine. I tried Finacea (topical
rosacea gel) and I must say it has made my skin so much more resilient. Now I
just use the mixes when I want to pamper my skin. I can now get by on daily
basis now just washing, moisturizing, apply Finacea, take Oracea, and sunscreen.
I even got my red light routine down to two or three times per week and IPL down
to only one per year at the most.

Anyway, I would still love to answer questions you might have. I don't sell any
mixes, but it just takes a little practice. Really, if you have a moisturizer
you like you can just add a tiny pinch of whatever (licorice is a favorite) and
mix! Maybe the first order of business is finding a moisturizer your skin likes?

Cheers!

Artist

--- In rosacea-support@ yahoogroups. com, "Janine" <janines4boys@ ...> wrote:
>
> i have been reading up alot on your recipes on one of these sites, but i am
not to brave to try them, is it possible you sell your things already made.
where to do you get those little vials oh and i have so manyt other questions i
hope you are stil here and have a chance to get back to me and btw ur skin
loooks amazing!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!
>
>
>
> janine

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Hi Janine:   Well thank you! How nice of you to say that. Those mixes got me
though some hard times with my skin, and I think it's fun. Since then I've had a
baby and worked hard to simplify my skin routine. I tried Finacea (topical
rosacea gel) and I must say it has made my skin so much more resilient. Now I
just use the mixes when I want to pamper my skin. I can now get by on daily
basis now just washing, moisturizing, apply Finacea, take Oracea, and sunscreen.
I even got my red light routine down to two or three times per week and IPL down
to only one per year at the most.

Anyway, I would still love to answer questions you might have. I don't sell any
mixes, but it just takes a little practice. Really, if you have a moisturizer
you like you can just add a tiny pinch of whatever (licorice is a favorite) and
mix! Maybe the first order of business is finding a moisturizer your skin likes?

Cheers!

Artist
--- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com, "Janine" <janines4boys@...> wrote:
>
>  i have been reading up alot on your recipes on one of these sites, but i am
not to brave to try them, is it possible you sell your things already made. 
where to do you get those little vials oh and i have so manyt other questions i
hope you are stil here and have a chance to get back to me  and btw ur skin
loooks amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>
>
> janine
>

FWIW, just thought I'd share that when my children had chicken pox, they bathed
with oatmeal; I put just regular rolled oats (dried, uncooked) in an old sock
and tied the open end in a knot and then got the sock wet in the bathtub.  As
the sock got wet, the oats produced a "milk" that we sponged all over their
skin.  And they loved playing with the sock, too!  Perhaps you could try using
this "milk" to wash your face?  Beth

--- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com, "chrisoding" <chrisoding@...> wrote:
>
> I posted a while ago about using oatmeal soap.  after a few days i broke out
badly despite having very moisturised skin.  i think what happened was the
oatmeal binds to skin so the detergents in the soap were stuck to my skin. so
irritation built up over a few days.  im trying mixing oatmeal and glycerin in a
blender and it seems to be more tolerable for me.  although ive only been using
it for a day so i will probably repost in like a week and report my progress.
(my symptoms include mild flushing, papules pustules, ocular rosacea as well.)
have had rosacea for like 15 years.
>

Hi,
  I am 43 and I saw a doctor that said I had rosacea.  I was very upset.  No
more red wine, spicy food or hot drinks.  I s life worth living?  What do you
reccomend To cleanse your skin with.  Have you heard of Zenmed they have a line
out for rosasea.
                                                Elizabeth




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Hi Janine,

How are you feeling now? A bit more reassured, I hope. It's great that your derm
says you are still at a "very mild" stage of rosacea and might possibly be
cleared by the Cynosure Cynergy Multiplex.

We don't often hear about Cynosure so I googled on it and read that Cynergy
Multiplex combines a pulsed dye laser and an Nd-YAG laser and is used for
conditions such as rosacea, red scars, prominent veins, hair removal and
premature aging.

In the RSG archives, there are several posts about it, including these comments
from Joy Menary in 2006:

"I had the Cynergy 3 laser which is the v-beam and Yag laser- a simultaneous
pulse. The results have been great- I healed in 2 weeks, the purpura and
pigmentation went away quickly and the capillaries were much less noticable
after one treatment."

"I did have a great experience with the Cynergy. It has been one month since my
first treatment with Cynergy, and I've noticed a substantial improvement in the
visible spider veins, diffused redness, and blushing. ... I can share with you
what works for me with PDL: I can tolerate light purpura, the treatments are
ineffective and highly inflammatory for me without the purpura, and too much
purpura lends itself to more hyperpigmentation and a longer recovery."

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-support/message/90577

Getting a test spot first sounds like an excellent idea. Not all laser treatment
providers are willing to do them, so you are lucky with your derm. His
unwillingness to put you on strong systemic drugs might seem unhelpful, but all
systemic drugs can have side effects, so it is usually best to treat topically
IF possible. However, it is also good that your physician is willing to consider
systemic drugs IF they prove necessary. Two cautious doctors looking out for
your health is a bonus, isn't it?

As for the feelings of being neurotic, that rosacea is taking over your life and
affecting your family, the best I can suggest is that you seek counselling. It
is natural to feel self-conscious about something that adversely affects one's
appearance, but if you continue to feel desperate, PLEASE see a therapist in
addition to the physician and derm. As you say, your "sanity is more valuable".

You have a loving family and darling young children, so these should be fabulous
years. Please don't let obsessive fears ruin them for you.

Kindest regards,

Aurelia
 
 
----- Message Forwarded on Thu 12/11/2009 -----
From: Janine
To: rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [rosacea] cynosure cynergy
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:18:00 +0000

hi again all.   i just went to derm today for my flushing and he suggested
cynosure cynergy multiplex,,,,,,,   has anyone heard of this please he says
there is no side effects and he could possibly clear me up as i am very mild. 
he said he will do a small test spot if i wish because i am neurtic as u can
tell.  anyone have good exp or bad wxp weith this.................. this rosacea
has taken over my life, my husbands life and my poor little children, i cant
stop looking in the mirror

anyone know good drs in Ny or NYc

please help  im desperate i will spend every pennie i have which isnt much to
help my sanity is more valuable.

also he tried to tell me to use fianaca what do you think how long to get rid of
the little pimples.

and he wont give me remeron clonidine or propanol he does not want to mess with
systemic feels there are too many side effects but my gp said whatever i want he
will give so any suggestions would greatly be apprieciated

i am using dermo cleanser, clarisonic which i think is bringing out problems but
hopefully it will go away and toleraine moisdtureizer.

i am very self concious and do not want to go in public everyone willstatre at
me

please help

Hi.

Some say that if you have bacteria and/or Demodex mites on your face, as most
people do, topical products such as make-up can easily be contaminated by
dipping the applicator (whether that is a finger, brush or make-up sponge) back
into the product after letting it touch the skin. Does anyone know the facts
about that, please?

The foundation I use is Glominerals' pressed base, which is a solid cake of
minerals supplied with a powder puff and no shaker. I apply the minerals with a
soft brush, but not enough powder adheres to the brush to cover my face with one
dip and it usually takes three "passes", as in dippings and fluffings.

Before opening a brand-new compact, I would really appreciate any comments or
advice on keeping it clean, thanks.

Kind regards,

Aurelia

Rosacea News October 2009

http://rosacea-support.org/2009/10

1. Oracea wins award for cute marketing

I can’t say that I know how much industry weight is carried by the
publication Medical Marketing & Media, but they have awarded Galderma the
Gold Award for `Best Individual Product Advertisement in Consumer Press’ for
their …

http://rosacea-support.org/oracea-wins-award-for-cute-marketing.html

2. Cetaphil adds UVA/UVB Defense SPF 50

Galderma announced in February a new SPF 50 Facial Sunscreen called Cetaphil
UVA/UVB Defense SPF 50. Actually Galderma is not promoting this product as a
sunscreen, but as a facial moisturizer. Said to be non-greasy and ..

http://rosacea-support.org/cetaphil-adds-uvauvb-defense-spf-50.html

3. Claim your Rosacea Community Blog Now !

Always wanted to have a blog or little corner of the internet you could call
your own ? Well now you can. Every registered member of the Rosacea Support
Community can have their very own blog area.
So please feel free to start your own Rosacea Community Blog. <br>Why would
I want one of those ? <br>Your own blog will allow you post your thoughts,
ideas, ..

http://rosacea-support.org/claim-your-rosacea-community-blog-now.html

4. IPL good for dry eyes too

WSOC-TV Charlotte, Carolina is syndicating a story about using IPL to
successfully treat dry eye. Dr. Coad details how he is using IPL to treat
this eye condition that is sometimes also found in ocular rosacea sufferers.
Dr. Mannis in his interview for the RSRP had this to say about IPL and
ocular rosacea. Q: Do you think ..

http://rosacea-support.org/ipl-good-for-dry-eyes-too.html

5. Topical Oxygen being trialled for sun damaged skin

A trial seeking participants interested in being treated with topically
disolved oxygen (TDO) has been posted to clinicaltrials.gov. Aria Aesthetics
is listed as supplying the `Aria Regimens’ in 0.5%, and 0.25%. As the trial
is double blind and placebo controlled, a third group will receive no TDO
during their treatments. Zoe Draelos MD is listed as a contact for the
trial. Dr. Draelos ..

http://rosacea-support.org/topical-oxygen-being-trialled-for-sun-damaged-skin.ht\
ml

6. Clarisonic now available in the UK

The Daily Mail has published an article reviewing the Clarisonic in their
Femail Beauty section. This article is no doubt motivated by the Clarisonic
recently being launched in the UK (available exclusively via Space NK). The
`oversized electric toothbrush’ is ..

http://rosacea-support.org/clarisonic-now-available-in-the-uk.html

7. Sansrosa starts strength tests, approaches final hurdle

In an encouraging sign that Sansrosa is slowly but surely progressing
towards FDA approval, the clinicaltrials.gov register lists Galderma
recruiting for a dose-finding trial for a product code named CD07805/47. The
aim of this trial is show which strength is the most suitable for general
use. Trial participants will be using one of 4 different strengths: 0.07%,
0.18%, %0.50 or effectively %0 contained ..

http://rosacea-support.org/sansrosa-starts-strength-tests-approaches-final-hurdl\
e.html

8. NRS research results explained

The NRS has just posted an easy-to-read summary of recent NRS funded
research results. The update mentions the `Gallo Research’ and describes it
; “Dr. Richard Gallo at the University of California-San Diego found a
consistently aberrant innate immune response in individuals with rosacea to
environmental and emotional triggers.” Spin-off research related to type I
interferon, plasmacytoid dendritic cells and enzyme involvement ..

http://rosacea-support.org/nrs-research-results-explained.html

9. Tetracyclines and Rosacea: what we already knew

Reading this just published abstract highlights for me just how slowly
indeed research moves along. These recently proposed methods of action of
tetracyclines seem to embody far from ground breaking research. We learnt in
2007 that tetracyclines have anti-inflammatory actions: “Tetracyclines are
known to exhibit multiple significant anti-inflammatory actions … the
mechanisms of this anti-inflammatory activity, such as inhibition of
chemotaxis, granuloma formation.

http://rosacea-support.org/tetracyclines-and-rosacea-what-we-already-knew.html

davidp.

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i have been reading up alot on your recipes on one of these sites, but i am not
to brave to try them, is it possible you sell your things already made.  where
to do you get those little vials oh and i have so manyt other questions i hope
you are stil here and have a chance to get back to me  and btw ur skin loooks
amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



janine

Hi, Diane.  If Cetaphyl was irritating, you might want to try CeraVe cleanser;
that's what my dermatologist recommended for me to use (and lots of people here
are also using it).  I did fine with Cetaphyl, but CeraVe works well for me,
too, so I'm sticking with it for now (and letting my teenage daughter use up the
Cetaphil!).  Also, fwiw, my new derm. (probably the 5th I've been to) said I
have adult acne plus the rosacea, and also an "androgen sensitivity" which was
making me produce too much oil on my face (I had never heard of this before); so
she prescribed spironolactone for the oiliness.  It seems to be reducing the
oily/shiny look on my face.  You might want to consider asking your doctor about
this medication and whether it might be appropriate for your condition.  Hope
this is helpful to you in some way.  Beth
p.s.  Do you think maybe the BHA is irritating your skin?  Have you tried not
using it for awhile to see what happens?

--- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com, diane Wickersheim <dianewickersheim@...>
wrote:
>
> hello
> i've got my flushing under control but its my chin area that is so clogged
with sebum i dont know what to do.
> i'm using paula's choice BHA 1% in that area and even switch every so often
with finacea but nothing will control it. Not to be gross but there not there in
the morning but as the day goes on the entire area fills up with little balls of
hard oil that I have to pick off and out with a tweezer. I'm am so dry after i
wash as well so I cant figure out how to treat. I've tried Cetaphyl and so many
gentle cleansers but they make it worse.
> Cetaphyl was like washing with pure alcohol, it was terrible. I was then raw
and red. Any one know what besides accutane will control the oil or just
regulate my skin?
>
> PS my derm gave me sample of Differin to try in that area but how can I put
something so harsh on an already inflamed area?
>
> thanks
> Diane
>