Has anyone tried these?  I found out about them from a rosacea website that
reviews products.  I bought the cleanser and moisturizing cream.  they are
always on sale.  My face isn't itchy anymore and the redness isn't as severe
probably since my skin is adequately hydrated now.  It doesn't make me break
out, but I never had pimples much in general.  Just thought I'd mention it and
wonder if anyone else has tried it.
Natanya

Hi Artist,

Thanks so much for that advice. I never thought about the minerals having
preservatives. It's so hard to eliminate mites, I was just thinking that the
powder might be a way of reintroducing them to the skin.

On reflection, I guess minerals are probably not a place they could live easily,
if at all. Nowhere near as tempting as warm, moist pores on a dark night. ;)

Kind regards,

Aurelia

Hi:  I wouldn't worry too much about it if the product has preservatives and you
wash the brush at least once or twice a week. Let the brush dry in the sun,
since sunlight is antibacterial :)

Cheers!

Artist

--- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com, "Aurelia.Dawn" <aurelia.dawn@...> wrote:
>
> Hi.
>
> Some say that if you have bacteria and/or Demodex mites on your face, as most
people do, topical products such as make-up can easily be contaminated by
dipping the applicator (whether that is a finger, brush or make-up sponge) back
into the product after letting it touch the skin. Does anyone know the facts
about that, please?
>
> The foundation I use is Glominerals' pressed base, which is a solid cake of
minerals supplied with a powder puff and no shaker. I apply the minerals with a
soft brush, but not enough powder adheres to the brush to cover my face with one
dip and it usually takes three "passes", as in dippings and fluffings.
>
> Before opening a brand-new compact, I would really appreciate any comments or
advice on keeping it clean, thanks.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Aurelia
>

HI ok here is where i am now!!

i take doxy 100 2x a day
finacea now at night
dermo cleanser morning and night
and toleraine moisturizer
so far my skin is reacting well to this but i want to boost it up a notch like
replenish all the damage i have done.
why are aha not good?
I was on skinactives the other night and was going to order everything that you
had given a recipe for but then thought i would just ask your opionion.  so i
guess i want to help reboot my capillaries and try and fade some  and try and
keep from flushing which im done to like 1-2 times a day.
do you really need to do a little test spot for 2 weeks that has to be so hard?
i hope to hear soon congrats on the baby enjoy now i have 4 and  i wouldl like
another but am afraid with this rosacea how my skin will handle it.  i just got
dx
j

Hi Elizabeth,

> Have you heard of Zenmed they have a line out for rosasea. <

You might perhaps like to read what our board owner wrote earlier this year on
our direct-posting board, the Rosacea Support Community:

http://rosacea-support.org/community/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=203


"Zenmed is quite a tricky product to get good information about. It is well
marketed and it sure is hard to find genuine looking user reviews that like it.
As well as quite a few web sites that sell and promote it on the internet, it
appears that there are also fake reviews and fake forum postings appearing. Note
to ZENMED, spamming does nothing for you - we need to see real reports from real
users !

So I tried to collect reviews here:
http://rosacea-support.org/zenmed-user-reviews.html

I hope this collection of comments helps a little - have to say it doesn't look
all that promising - even though the list of ingredients is potentially
interesting."


Kind regards,

Aurelia

Hi Elizabeth,

Welcome to our group! :)

It is usually upsetting to get the diagnosis of rosacea, but it isn't as bad as
you might fear from hearing that there is as yet no cure. Instead there are a
wide range of treatments. Although none has so far ever worked for everyone,
most people are able to get considerable relief from putting together their own
special treatment regime. The big problem is that it usually takes a while to
figure out which things will work well for YOU.

Red wine, spicy food and hot drinks are common triggers for many rosaceans, but
they certainly don't affect everyone. You might find that they have absolutely
no effect on you so you can enjoy them to your heart's content. Just keep an eye
on how you do after consuming them, preferably not testing them all at once. :)

My favourite cleanser is the Gentle Skin Cleanser made by Cetaphil. I team it
with Cetaphil's Moisturising Lotion for dry, sensitive skin. Neither clog the
pores.

> Have you heard of Zenmed they have a line out for rosasea. <

Yes, Zenmed advertise their rosacea line extensively, but only a few genuine
rosaceans have posted that it worked for them. Zenmed used to send out spammers
to post fake testimonials, which isn't nice.

May I ask what kind of symptoms you have, and how long have they been evident?
Also, what your current skin care regime is like?

Kind regards and best of luck,

Aurelia

That's Pevonia

Eliz.




________________________________
From: nurse_artist <nurse_artist@...>
To: rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, November 12, 2009 4:41:10 PM
Subject: [rosacea] Re: Hi Nurse artist wondering if your still here

 
Hi Janine: Well thank you! How nice of you to say that. Those mixes got me
though some hard times with my skin, and I think it's fun. Since then I've had a
baby and worked hard to simplify my skin routine. I tried Finacea (topical
rosacea gel) and I must say it has made my skin so much more resilient. Now I
just use the mixes when I want to pamper my skin. I can now get by on daily
basis now just washing, moisturizing, apply Finacea, take Oracea, and sunscreen.
I even got my red light routine down to two or three times per week and IPL down
to only one per year at the most.

Anyway, I would still love to answer questions you might have. I don't sell any
mixes, but it just takes a little practice. Really, if you have a moisturizer
you like you can just add a tiny pinch of whatever (licorice is a favorite) and
mix! Maybe the first order of business is finding a moisturizer your skin likes?

Cheers!

Artist
--- In rosacea-support@ yahoogroups. com, "Janine" <janines4boys@ ...> wrote:
>
> i have been reading up alot on your recipes on one of these sites, but i am
not to brave to try them, is it possible you sell your things already made.
where to do you get those little vials oh and i have so manyt other questions i
hope you are stil here and have a chance to get back to me and btw ur skin
loooks amazing!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!
>
>
>
> janine
>







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Hi ,
Have you tried Prevonia its a salon line for rosesea.

Eliz.




________________________________
From: nurse_artist <nurse_artist@...>
To: rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, November 12, 2009 4:41:10 PM
Subject: [rosacea] Re: Hi Nurse artist wondering if your still here

 
Hi Janine: Well thank you! How nice of you to say that. Those mixes got me
though some hard times with my skin, and I think it's fun. Since then I've had a
baby and worked hard to simplify my skin routine. I tried Finacea (topical
rosacea gel) and I must say it has made my skin so much more resilient. Now I
just use the mixes when I want to pamper my skin. I can now get by on daily
basis now just washing, moisturizing, apply Finacea, take Oracea, and sunscreen.
I even got my red light routine down to two or three times per week and IPL down
to only one per year at the most.

Anyway, I would still love to answer questions you might have. I don't sell any
mixes, but it just takes a little practice. Really, if you have a moisturizer
you like you can just add a tiny pinch of whatever (licorice is a favorite) and
mix! Maybe the first order of business is finding a moisturizer your skin likes?

Cheers!

Artist

--- In rosacea-support@ yahoogroups. com, "Janine" <janines4boys@ ...> wrote:
>
> i have been reading up alot on your recipes on one of these sites, but i am
not to brave to try them, is it possible you sell your things already made.
where to do you get those little vials oh and i have so manyt other questions i
hope you are stil here and have a chance to get back to me and btw ur skin
loooks amazing!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!
>
>
>
> janine

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi Janine:   Well thank you! How nice of you to say that. Those mixes got me
though some hard times with my skin, and I think it's fun. Since then I've had a
baby and worked hard to simplify my skin routine. I tried Finacea (topical
rosacea gel) and I must say it has made my skin so much more resilient. Now I
just use the mixes when I want to pamper my skin. I can now get by on daily
basis now just washing, moisturizing, apply Finacea, take Oracea, and sunscreen.
I even got my red light routine down to two or three times per week and IPL down
to only one per year at the most.

Anyway, I would still love to answer questions you might have. I don't sell any
mixes, but it just takes a little practice. Really, if you have a moisturizer
you like you can just add a tiny pinch of whatever (licorice is a favorite) and
mix! Maybe the first order of business is finding a moisturizer your skin likes?

Cheers!

Artist
--- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com, "Janine" <janines4boys@...> wrote:
>
>  i have been reading up alot on your recipes on one of these sites, but i am
not to brave to try them, is it possible you sell your things already made. 
where to do you get those little vials oh and i have so manyt other questions i
hope you are stil here and have a chance to get back to me  and btw ur skin
loooks amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>
>
> janine
>

FWIW, just thought I'd share that when my children had chicken pox, they bathed
with oatmeal; I put just regular rolled oats (dried, uncooked) in an old sock
and tied the open end in a knot and then got the sock wet in the bathtub.  As
the sock got wet, the oats produced a "milk" that we sponged all over their
skin.  And they loved playing with the sock, too!  Perhaps you could try using
this "milk" to wash your face?  Beth

--- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com, "chrisoding" <chrisoding@...> wrote:
>
> I posted a while ago about using oatmeal soap.  after a few days i broke out
badly despite having very moisturised skin.  i think what happened was the
oatmeal binds to skin so the detergents in the soap were stuck to my skin. so
irritation built up over a few days.  im trying mixing oatmeal and glycerin in a
blender and it seems to be more tolerable for me.  although ive only been using
it for a day so i will probably repost in like a week and report my progress.
(my symptoms include mild flushing, papules pustules, ocular rosacea as well.)
have had rosacea for like 15 years.
>

Hi,
  I am 43 and I saw a doctor that said I had rosacea.  I was very upset.  No
more red wine, spicy food or hot drinks.  I s life worth living?  What do you
reccomend To cleanse your skin with.  Have you heard of Zenmed they have a line
out for rosasea.
                                                Elizabeth




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Hi Janine,

How are you feeling now? A bit more reassured, I hope. It's great that your derm
says you are still at a "very mild" stage of rosacea and might possibly be
cleared by the Cynosure Cynergy Multiplex.

We don't often hear about Cynosure so I googled on it and read that Cynergy
Multiplex combines a pulsed dye laser and an Nd-YAG laser and is used for
conditions such as rosacea, red scars, prominent veins, hair removal and
premature aging.

In the RSG archives, there are several posts about it, including these comments
from Joy Menary in 2006:

"I had the Cynergy 3 laser which is the v-beam and Yag laser- a simultaneous
pulse. The results have been great- I healed in 2 weeks, the purpura and
pigmentation went away quickly and the capillaries were much less noticable
after one treatment."

"I did have a great experience with the Cynergy. It has been one month since my
first treatment with Cynergy, and I've noticed a substantial improvement in the
visible spider veins, diffused redness, and blushing. ... I can share with you
what works for me with PDL: I can tolerate light purpura, the treatments are
ineffective and highly inflammatory for me without the purpura, and too much
purpura lends itself to more hyperpigmentation and a longer recovery."

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-support/message/90577

Getting a test spot first sounds like an excellent idea. Not all laser treatment
providers are willing to do them, so you are lucky with your derm. His
unwillingness to put you on strong systemic drugs might seem unhelpful, but all
systemic drugs can have side effects, so it is usually best to treat topically
IF possible. However, it is also good that your physician is willing to consider
systemic drugs IF they prove necessary. Two cautious doctors looking out for
your health is a bonus, isn't it?

As for the feelings of being neurotic, that rosacea is taking over your life and
affecting your family, the best I can suggest is that you seek counselling. It
is natural to feel self-conscious about something that adversely affects one's
appearance, but if you continue to feel desperate, PLEASE see a therapist in
addition to the physician and derm. As you say, your "sanity is more valuable".

You have a loving family and darling young children, so these should be fabulous
years. Please don't let obsessive fears ruin them for you.

Kindest regards,

Aurelia
 
 
----- Message Forwarded on Thu 12/11/2009 -----
From: Janine
To: rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [rosacea] cynosure cynergy
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:18:00 +0000

hi again all.   i just went to derm today for my flushing and he suggested
cynosure cynergy multiplex,,,,,,,   has anyone heard of this please he says
there is no side effects and he could possibly clear me up as i am very mild. 
he said he will do a small test spot if i wish because i am neurtic as u can
tell.  anyone have good exp or bad wxp weith this.................. this rosacea
has taken over my life, my husbands life and my poor little children, i cant
stop looking in the mirror

anyone know good drs in Ny or NYc

please help  im desperate i will spend every pennie i have which isnt much to
help my sanity is more valuable.

also he tried to tell me to use fianaca what do you think how long to get rid of
the little pimples.

and he wont give me remeron clonidine or propanol he does not want to mess with
systemic feels there are too many side effects but my gp said whatever i want he
will give so any suggestions would greatly be apprieciated

i am using dermo cleanser, clarisonic which i think is bringing out problems but
hopefully it will go away and toleraine moisdtureizer.

i am very self concious and do not want to go in public everyone willstatre at
me

please help

Hi.

Some say that if you have bacteria and/or Demodex mites on your face, as most
people do, topical products such as make-up can easily be contaminated by
dipping the applicator (whether that is a finger, brush or make-up sponge) back
into the product after letting it touch the skin. Does anyone know the facts
about that, please?

The foundation I use is Glominerals' pressed base, which is a solid cake of
minerals supplied with a powder puff and no shaker. I apply the minerals with a
soft brush, but not enough powder adheres to the brush to cover my face with one
dip and it usually takes three "passes", as in dippings and fluffings.

Before opening a brand-new compact, I would really appreciate any comments or
advice on keeping it clean, thanks.

Kind regards,

Aurelia

Rosacea News October 2009

http://rosacea-support.org/2009/10

1. Oracea wins award for cute marketing

I can’t say that I know how much industry weight is carried by the
publication Medical Marketing & Media, but they have awarded Galderma the
Gold Award for `Best Individual Product Advertisement in Consumer Press’ for
their …

http://rosacea-support.org/oracea-wins-award-for-cute-marketing.html

2. Cetaphil adds UVA/UVB Defense SPF 50

Galderma announced in February a new SPF 50 Facial Sunscreen called Cetaphil
UVA/UVB Defense SPF 50. Actually Galderma is not promoting this product as a
sunscreen, but as a facial moisturizer. Said to be non-greasy and ..

http://rosacea-support.org/cetaphil-adds-uvauvb-defense-spf-50.html

3. Claim your Rosacea Community Blog Now !

Always wanted to have a blog or little corner of the internet you could call
your own ? Well now you can. Every registered member of the Rosacea Support
Community can have their very own blog area.
So please feel free to start your own Rosacea Community Blog. <br>Why would
I want one of those ? <br>Your own blog will allow you post your thoughts,
ideas, ..

http://rosacea-support.org/claim-your-rosacea-community-blog-now.html

4. IPL good for dry eyes too

WSOC-TV Charlotte, Carolina is syndicating a story about using IPL to
successfully treat dry eye. Dr. Coad details how he is using IPL to treat
this eye condition that is sometimes also found in ocular rosacea sufferers.
Dr. Mannis in his interview for the RSRP had this to say about IPL and
ocular rosacea. Q: Do you think ..

http://rosacea-support.org/ipl-good-for-dry-eyes-too.html

5. Topical Oxygen being trialled for sun damaged skin

A trial seeking participants interested in being treated with topically
disolved oxygen (TDO) has been posted to clinicaltrials.gov. Aria Aesthetics
is listed as supplying the `Aria Regimens’ in 0.5%, and 0.25%. As the trial
is double blind and placebo controlled, a third group will receive no TDO
during their treatments. Zoe Draelos MD is listed as a contact for the
trial. Dr. Draelos ..

http://rosacea-support.org/topical-oxygen-being-trialled-for-sun-damaged-skin.ht\
ml

6. Clarisonic now available in the UK

The Daily Mail has published an article reviewing the Clarisonic in their
Femail Beauty section. This article is no doubt motivated by the Clarisonic
recently being launched in the UK (available exclusively via Space NK). The
`oversized electric toothbrush’ is ..

http://rosacea-support.org/clarisonic-now-available-in-the-uk.html

7. Sansrosa starts strength tests, approaches final hurdle

In an encouraging sign that Sansrosa is slowly but surely progressing
towards FDA approval, the clinicaltrials.gov register lists Galderma
recruiting for a dose-finding trial for a product code named CD07805/47. The
aim of this trial is show which strength is the most suitable for general
use. Trial participants will be using one of 4 different strengths: 0.07%,
0.18%, %0.50 or effectively %0 contained ..

http://rosacea-support.org/sansrosa-starts-strength-tests-approaches-final-hurdl\
e.html

8. NRS research results explained

The NRS has just posted an easy-to-read summary of recent NRS funded
research results. The update mentions the `Gallo Research’ and describes it
; “Dr. Richard Gallo at the University of California-San Diego found a
consistently aberrant innate immune response in individuals with rosacea to
environmental and emotional triggers.” Spin-off research related to type I
interferon, plasmacytoid dendritic cells and enzyme involvement ..

http://rosacea-support.org/nrs-research-results-explained.html

9. Tetracyclines and Rosacea: what we already knew

Reading this just published abstract highlights for me just how slowly
indeed research moves along. These recently proposed methods of action of
tetracyclines seem to embody far from ground breaking research. We learnt in
2007 that tetracyclines have anti-inflammatory actions: “Tetracyclines are
known to exhibit multiple significant anti-inflammatory actions … the
mechanisms of this anti-inflammatory activity, such as inhibition of
chemotaxis, granuloma formation.

http://rosacea-support.org/tetracyclines-and-rosacea-what-we-already-knew.html

davidp.

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i have been reading up alot on your recipes on one of these sites, but i am not
to brave to try them, is it possible you sell your things already made.  where
to do you get those little vials oh and i have so manyt other questions i hope
you are stil here and have a chance to get back to me  and btw ur skin loooks
amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



janine

Hi, Diane.  If Cetaphyl was irritating, you might want to try CeraVe cleanser;
that's what my dermatologist recommended for me to use (and lots of people here
are also using it).  I did fine with Cetaphyl, but CeraVe works well for me,
too, so I'm sticking with it for now (and letting my teenage daughter use up the
Cetaphil!).  Also, fwiw, my new derm. (probably the 5th I've been to) said I
have adult acne plus the rosacea, and also an "androgen sensitivity" which was
making me produce too much oil on my face (I had never heard of this before); so
she prescribed spironolactone for the oiliness.  It seems to be reducing the
oily/shiny look on my face.  You might want to consider asking your doctor about
this medication and whether it might be appropriate for your condition.  Hope
this is helpful to you in some way.  Beth
p.s.  Do you think maybe the BHA is irritating your skin?  Have you tried not
using it for awhile to see what happens?

--- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com, diane Wickersheim <dianewickersheim@...>
wrote:
>
> hello
> i've got my flushing under control but its my chin area that is so clogged
with sebum i dont know what to do.
> i'm using paula's choice BHA 1% in that area and even switch every so often
with finacea but nothing will control it. Not to be gross but there not there in
the morning but as the day goes on the entire area fills up with little balls of
hard oil that I have to pick off and out with a tweezer. I'm am so dry after i
wash as well so I cant figure out how to treat. I've tried Cetaphyl and so many
gentle cleansers but they make it worse.
> Cetaphyl was like washing with pure alcohol, it was terrible. I was then raw
and red. Any one know what besides accutane will control the oil or just
regulate my skin?
>
> PS my derm gave me sample of Differin to try in that area but how can I put
something so harsh on an already inflamed area?
>
> thanks
> Diane
>

I posted a while ago about using oatmeal soap.  after a few days i broke out
badly despite having very moisturised skin.  i think what happened was the
oatmeal binds to skin so the detergents in the soap were stuck to my skin. so
irritation built up over a few days.  im trying mixing oatmeal and glycerin in a
blender and it seems to be more tolerable for me.  although ive only been using
it for a day so i will probably repost in like a week and report my progress.
(my symptoms include mild flushing, papules pustules, ocular rosacea as well.)
have had rosacea for like 15 years.

That's what I thought.  The only thing that flared my Rosacea are Pineapple and
Cherry.
Lauria

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Maura Anderson
   To: rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 10:56 PM
   Subject: Re: [rosacea] Rosacea.org



   As evidenced by the title "Factors that MAY trigger rosacea flare-ups" and
   the fact this was compiled from patient histories, no, they are not definite
   triggers for everyone.

   Every case is individual and everyone has different sets of triggers that
   may overlap. It would be far easier if there was a list of triggers everyone
   could avoid and thus be fine.

   - M

   On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Lauria <goldpony@...> wrote:

   > Does anyone ever look into this??
   > http://www.rosacea.org/patients/materials/triggers.php
   > Are they saying that these definetly make you flare up?? I eat alot of
   > Spinach and I don't flare up. Or does it only flare on some people?? I'm
   > confuse..
   > Lauria
   >
   >
   > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
   >
   >
   >
   > ------------------------------------
   >
   > --
   > NEW!: Rosacea Support Community http://rosacea-support.org/community
   > Resource Pages: http://rosacea-research.org/wiki
   > Yahoo! Groups Links
   >
   >
   >
   >

   --
   Maura Anderson - Author of Sensual, Magical, Unconventional Tales
   Bittersweet -- available NOW from Aspen Mountain Press
   Escape to Me -- available soon from Ellora's Cave
   http://www.realmsoftheraven.com

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Hi Laura,

Yes, < rosacea.org > is the web site of the National Rosacea Society (NRS), a
body set up to increase awareness of rosacea by educating patients, doctors and
the public, and by encouraging research, including funding studies.

As Maura said, that is a list of triggers that might POSSIBLY cause flare-ups
for SOME rosaceans. It is best read in conjunction with the NRS's list showing
triggers by percentage of survey respondents. Perhaps best to start from this
page, which has three links leading off it:
http://www.rosacea.org/patients/materials/triggersindex.php

"Below are lists of common rosacea trigger factors that may affect various
individuals. The first was compiled from patient histories, and the second lists
results of a patient survey by the National Rosacea Society. Neither list
necessarily includes everything that may cause a flare-up, but they may be
helpful in determining one's own trigger factors. Patients are encouraged to
keep a diary of daily activities or events and relate them to any flare-ups they
may experience."

1.  things that have been recorded as triggers by at least one patient of the
(most eminent) derm who compiled the list:
http://www.rosacea.org/patients/materials/triggers.php

2.  list showing the percentage of people affected by particular triggers, from
a survey of 1,066 rosaceans. Many people have multiple triggers, but most have
just a few and some never identify any.
http://www.rosacea.org/patients/materials/triggersgraph.php

3.  diary form to help identify personal triggers (can be printed out or mailed)
http://www.rosacea.org/patients/materials/diary/index.php

Kind regards,

Aurelia

As evidenced by the title "Factors that MAY trigger rosacea flare-ups" and
the fact this was compiled from patient histories, no, they are not definite
triggers for everyone.

Every case is individual and everyone has different sets of triggers that
may overlap. It would be far easier if there was a list of triggers everyone
could avoid and thus be fine.

- M

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Lauria <goldpony@...> wrote:

> Does anyone ever look into this??
> http://www.rosacea.org/patients/materials/triggers.php
> Are they saying that these definetly make you flare up??  I eat alot of
> Spinach and I don't flare up.  Or does it only flare on some people??  I'm
> confuse..
> Lauria
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> --
> NEW!: Rosacea Support Community http://rosacea-support.org/community
> Resource Pages: http://rosacea-research.org/wiki
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>


--
Maura Anderson - Author of Sensual, Magical, Unconventional Tales
Bittersweet -- available NOW from Aspen Mountain Press
Escape to Me -- available soon from Ellora's Cave
http://www.realmsoftheraven.com


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Does anyone ever look into this??
http://www.rosacea.org/patients/materials/triggers.php
Are they saying that these definetly make you flare up??  I eat alot of Spinach
and I don't flare up.  Or does it only flare on some people??  I'm confuse..
Lauria


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The Azelex also has cleaned my pores up quite a bit as well, so therefore they
look smaller. People say Azelex has no anti-aging properties but the fact that
it makes pores appear smaller and more refined makes me look a little bit
younger too. I usually do not get very excited about medications but I am very
happy with this one. I really hope that my face does not develop a tolerance to
it and stop working, which is what has happened with other topical meds. I hope
others do give this a try when all else fails....thanks for listening!

--- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com, "nobody" <bobbi507@...> wrote:
>
> I posted a few days ago about a flare coming that I was afraid was going to
spread out of control. Well I have been on Azelex for about three weeks and I
believe with about 80% certainty that is the one thing that made that flare not
spread all over my face. The flare started going away almost as  quick as it
came. If you have not tried Azelex yet, I highly recommend it. It is almost the
same as Finacea, except it has a higher azealic acid concentrate and it is in a
cream form instead of gel. If you have acne too, it works wonders on that.
> It stung a little the first few days I used it, but the stinging went away
after an hour, was tolerable enough that I left the azelex on...eventually after
about a week of use the stinging is very, very mininal. Another good thing is
that my insurance paid for it. I have heard other people complain that Finacea
is not paid for by insurance, if this is the case ask for Azelex.  Also if you
have not tried Azelex I would recommend it. You do have to be patient but I am
seeing results...quicker than anything else. Just a thought!
>

For whatever reason my insurance did not pay for Finacea and the cream base in
Azelex provides some much needed moisture to my skin. It seemed to work better
under my make-up than the Finacea. Whatever works I guess.

--- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com, "nobody" <bobbi507@...> wrote:
>
> I posted a few days ago about a flare coming that I was afraid was going to
spread out of control. Well I have been on Azelex for about three weeks and I
believe with about 80% certainty that is the one thing that made that flare not
spread all over my face. The flare started going away almost as  quick as it
came. If you have not tried Azelex yet, I highly recommend it. It is almost the
same as Finacea, except it has a higher azealic acid concentrate and it is in a
cream form instead of gel. If you have acne too, it works wonders on that.
> It stung a little the first few days I used it, but the stinging went away
after an hour, was tolerable enough that I left the azelex on...eventually after
about a week of use the stinging is very, very mininal. Another good thing is
that my insurance paid for it. I have heard other people complain that Finacea
is not paid for by insurance, if this is the case ask for Azelex.  Also if you
have not tried Azelex I would recommend it. You do have to be patient but I am
seeing results...quicker than anything else. Just a thought!
>

Hi "nobody" (bobbi507),

So glad to hear that the flare that seemed about to go on
the rampage disappeared. That's wonderful news and must have come as a great
relief!

Cream forms tend to be gentler than gels, as in less likely to trigger
irritation. Thanks for recommending Azelex to other members, and here's hoping
that it will continue to work well for you.

Thanks so much for posting again to let us know how you are getting on. Some
people think (quite reasonably) that we mods hear so many rosacea stories that
this must all be routine and we can't really care anymore, but we do. :)

Kind regards,

Aurelia

Hi Jenny,

Yes, please do keep us informed about the rose cleanser. It's always good to
know of cheap and gentle products, if it happens to work out long-term.

> At the moment my rosacea is not too bad but I've got ezcema round my mouth and
under my nose which is sore and red and driving me mad. >

How sad! It's a pity Cutanix's DRL (Dramatic Relief Lotion) is off the market
because it had a pretty good success rate for some with rosacea and some with
eczema, including people who had both.

I rarely get eczema, but once had a nasty patch on both hands and arms
(triggered by medium-dose Accutane). When my derm prescribed a steroid cream, I
tested the two products on different sides. They cleared the eczema at the same
speed, but I thought the DRL won the laurels since it was applied to the
worst-affected areas.

Best of luck with clearing yours!

Kind regards,

Aurelia

Becky wrote:  "I tried the face doctor soap also, after my dog ate my first bar,
I got a second one..  again, not much help..."


Hi Becky,

Did you try the Face Doctor soap specifically for P&Ps, or Demodex, or ... ? BTW
I hope your dog was okay. Some people might worry about a dog foaming at the
mouth! :o

Kind regards,

Aurelia

I too have had this done.  You will be very red for about 1-2 weeks post
treatment, but if your looking to refine your pores, reduce fine lines and
wrinkles, and have ur face feel like a babys behind then this is the treatment
for u.

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 5, 2009, at 9:51 AM, "Gabriella" <gabri_gallo@...> wrote:

I have a friend who had this done and it did help her rosacea some. Warning: it
is going to itch like crazy when it's healing. She thought she was going to lose
her mind!

Good luck!

Gabriella







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hello
i've got my flushing under control but its my chin area that is so clogged with
sebum i dont know what to do.
i'm using paula's choice BHA 1% in that area and even switch every so often with
finacea but nothing will control it. Not to be gross but there not there in the
morning but as the day goes on the entire area fills up with little balls of
hard oil that I have to pick off and out with a tweezer. I'm am so dry after i
wash as well so I cant figure out how to treat. I've tried Cetaphyl and so many
gentle cleansers but they make it worse.
Cetaphyl was like washing with pure alcohol, it was terrible. I was then raw and
red. Any one know what besides accutane will control the oil or just regulate my
skin?

PS my derm gave me sample of Differin to try in that area but how can I put
something so harsh on an already inflamed area?

thanks
Diane

Azelex contains 20 percent azelaic acid in a cream formulation.  Finacea
contains 15 percent azelaic acid in a hydrogel formulation.  Azelaic acid is the
molecule or active ingrediant in both of these medications.  Even though finacea
has 5 percent less azelaic acid than the azelex, the 15 percent gel formulation
of finacea penetrates into the skin and diseased tissue 8 times greater than the
azelex or 20 percent cream.  It is all about the delivery system or the vehicle
that the active ingrediant is in.  Finacea actually has excellent coverage as
far as insurance coverage.

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 9, 2009, at 11:20 AM, "nobody" <bobbi507@...> wrote:

I posted a few days ago about a flare coming that I was afraid was going to
spread out of control. Well I have been on Azelex for about three weeks and I
believe with about 80% certainty that is the one thing that made that flare not
spread all over my face. The flare started going away almost as quick as it
came. If you have not tried Azelex yet, I highly recommend it. It is almost the
same as Finacea, except it has a higher azealic acid concentrate and it is in a
cream form instead of gel. If you have acne too, it works wonders on that.
It stung a little the first few days I used it, but the stinging went away after
an hour, was tolerable enough that I left the azelex on...eventually after about
a week of use the stinging is very, very mininal. Another good thing is that my
insurance paid for it. I have heard other people complain that Finacea is not
paid for by insurance, if this is the case ask for Azelex. Also if you have not
tried Azelex I would recommend it. You do have to be patient but I am seeing
results...quicker than anything else. Just a thought!







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I posted a few days ago about a flare coming that I was afraid was going to
spread out of control. Well I have been on Azelex for about three weeks and I
believe with about 80% certainty that is the one thing that made that flare not
spread all over my face. The flare started going away almost as  quick as it
came. If you have not tried Azelex yet, I highly recommend it. It is almost the
same as Finacea, except it has a higher azealic acid concentrate and it is in a
cream form instead of gel. If you have acne too, it works wonders on that.
It stung a little the first few days I used it, but the stinging went away after
an hour, was tolerable enough that I left the azelex on...eventually after about
a week of use the stinging is very, very mininal. Another good thing is that my
insurance paid for it. I have heard other people complain that Finacea is not
paid for by insurance, if this is the case ask for Azelex.  Also if you have not
tried Azelex I would recommend it. You do have to be patient but I am seeing
results...quicker than anything else. Just a thought!