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#103943 From: "David" <gabrielfan72@...>
Date: Tue Jun 30, 2009 3:02 am
Subject: oily skin?
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Does oily skin go along with rosacea very often? My skin seems to look kind of
shiny and like there's some kind of residue on it. I'm wondering if there's
anything I can use to lessen that.




#103974 From: "albert_feldman" <albert_feldman@...>
Date: Mon Jul 6, 2009 2:28 pm
Subject: Re: oily skin?
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--- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com, "David" <gabrielfan72@...> wrote:
>
> Does oily skin go along with rosacea very often? My skin seems to look kind of
shiny and like there's some kind of residue on it. I'm wondering if there's
anything I can use to lessen that.
>


Seborrhea (oily skin),and seborrheic dermatitis does unfortunately sometimes
coincide with rosacea. I read on a website for curing acne that some people
taking large amounts of vitamin B5(like 10 grams or more a day) have had success
reducing oily skin. I tried that a few years ago and it did help some but I
don't think taking that high a dose of B5 for a long time is good for you.
Recently I started taking vitamin D3 and Saw Palmetto together and this has
reduced my oiliness by about 50%. I take 2000 mg. of D3 and 160 mg standardized
extract of Saw Palmetto in the morning after breakfast and then again after
dinner. This might work for you also. I think this would be better than trying
very large amounts of B5.




#103979 From: "David" <gabrielfan72@...>
Date: Tue Jul 7, 2009 8:05 pm
Subject: Re: oily skin?
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Thanks for the info. I've heard of vitamin D before but not D3, is this
something different? How would I get ahold of saw palmetto? Is that found in a
health food store?




--- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com, "albert_feldman" <albert_feldman@...>
wrote:
>
> --- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com, "David" <gabrielfan72@> wrote:
> >
> > Does oily skin go along with rosacea very often? My skin seems to look kind
of shiny and like there's some kind of residue on it. I'm wondering if there's
anything I can use to lessen that.
> >
>
>
> Seborrhea (oily skin),and seborrheic dermatitis does unfortunately sometimes
coincide with rosacea. I read on a website for curing acne that some people
taking large amounts of vitamin B5(like 10 grams or more a day) have had success
reducing oily skin. I tried that a few years ago and it did help some but I
don't think taking that high a dose of B5 for a long time is good for you.
Recently I started taking vitamin D3 and Saw Palmetto together and this has
reduced my oiliness by about 50%. I take 2000 mg. of D3 and 160 mg standardized
extract of Saw Palmetto in the morning after breakfast and then again after
dinner. This might work for you also. I think this would be better than trying
very large amounts of B5.
>





#103980 From: "albert_feldman" <albert_feldman@...>
Date: Wed Jul 8, 2009 12:40 pm
Subject: Re: oily skin?
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--- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com, "David" <gabrielfan72@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the info. I've heard of vitamin D before but not D3, is this
something different? How would I get ahold of saw palmetto? Is that found in a
health food store?
>
>
>
>
> --- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com, "albert_feldman" <albert_feldman@>
wrote:
> >
> > --- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com, "David" <gabrielfan72@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Does oily skin go along with rosacea very often? My skin seems to look
kind of shiny and like there's some kind of residue on it. I'm wondering if
there's anything I can use to lessen that.
> > >
> >
> >
> > Seborrhea (oily skin),and seborrheic dermatitis does unfortunately sometimes
coincide with rosacea. I read on a website for curing acne that some people
taking large amounts of vitamin B5(like 10 grams or more a day) have had success
reducing oily skin. I tried that a few years ago and it did help some but I
don't think taking that high a dose of B5 for a long time is good for you.
Recently I started taking vitamin D3 and Saw Palmetto together and this has
reduced my oiliness by about 50%. I take 2000 mg. of D3 and 160 mg standardized
extract of Saw Palmetto in the morning after breakfast and then again after
dinner. This might work for you also. I think this would be better than trying
very large amounts of B5.
> >
>
Hi David, D3 is, I believe, the most common form of vitamin D that is sold.
However, there are other kinds like D2 so you want to be sure that it is the D3
that you are buying. Also, in my last post I said that I took 2000 mg of D3
twice a day but that was a mistake it is actually 2000 IU ( international units)
that I take. D3 and Saw Palmetto can be found at most drug and health food
stores. I buy the Neutraceutical brand online from Vitacost, they have pretty
good prices although I am sure you could find it cheaper at other sites. But no
matter where you buy it be sure to get a high quality brand.




#103981 From: "Alison" <anead25@...>
Date: Wed Jul 8, 2009 3:20 pm
Subject: Vit D and Saw Palmetto - re: Oily skin
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Hi - I just stopped taking the Vit D3 and recently stopped the saw palmetto as
well. The SP was giving me stomach pains so I stopped that after a week. I
started the Vit D at the same time and my skin got worse, breaking out with
horrible p&p but figured that the vitamins were bringing all the bad stuff out
of my body. I finally gave up after about 6 weeks of it. It's been 2 weeks and
my skin is finally calming down. I've been washing with DHC's sensitive skin
soap and following that with Palmers Organic Shea Butter Cream. The cream has a
very light fruit smell and it's more like a wax than a cream it's that heavy.
But my skin reacts well to it and is softer than it's been for a long time. I
use Bare Escentuals concealer and have recently started using their Matte
foundation so I don't look greasy from the talc in the original formula. Nice
to have some peace on my face for a while. :)

--- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com, "albert_feldman" <albert_feldman@...>
wrote:
>
> --- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com, "David" <gabrielfan72@> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the info. I've heard of vitamin D before but not D3, is this
something different? How would I get ahold of saw palmetto? Is that found in a
health food store?





#103987 From: "David" <gabrielfan72@...>
Date: Thu Jul 9, 2009 8:56 pm
Subject: Re: Vit D and Saw Palmetto - re: Oily skin
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Do you buy the Bare Escentuals products online somewhere?

--- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com, "Alison" <anead25@...> wrote:
>
> Hi - I just stopped taking the Vit D3 and recently stopped the saw palmetto as
well. The SP was giving me stomach pains so I stopped that after a week. I
started the Vit D at the same time and my skin got worse, breaking out with
horrible p&p but figured that the vitamins were bringing all the bad stuff out
of my body. I finally gave up after about 6 weeks of it. It's been 2 weeks and
my skin is finally calming down. I've been washing with DHC's sensitive skin
soap and following that with Palmers Organic Shea Butter Cream. The cream has a
very light fruit smell and it's more like a wax than a cream it's that heavy.
But my skin reacts well to it and is softer than it's been for a long time. I
use Bare Escentuals concealer and have recently started using their Matte
foundation so I don't look greasy from the talc in the original formula. Nice
to have some peace on my face for a while. :)
>
> --- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com, "albert_feldman" <albert_feldman@>
wrote:
> >
> > --- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com, "David" <gabrielfan72@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks for the info. I've heard of vitamin D before but not D3, is this
something different? How would I get ahold of saw palmetto? Is that found in a
health food store?
>





#103995 From: "Alison" <anead25@...>
Date: Sat Jul 11, 2009 2:58 pm
Subject: Re: Vit D and Saw Palmetto - re: Oily skin
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--- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com, "David" <gabrielfan72@...> wrote:
>
> Do you buy the Bare Escentuals products online somewhere?

You can buy Bare Escentuals online via their website or QVC.com or QVC on TV or
at Sephora stores in person. Their concealer is AMAZING! I use it with a small
brush on my bad spots and by the time I'm done, my skin looks almost flawless.
And it doesn't cake up or look phony so I would recommend it for men as well.





#103984 From: "Aurelia.Dawn" <aurelia.dawn@...>
Date: Thu Jul 9, 2009 3:01 am
Subject: Re: [rosacea] Re: oily skin?
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Yes, oily skin often goes along with rosacea. There seems to be a marked
division into two camps: those with oily, spot-prone skin and those with very
dry and hypersensitive skin.

It seems to me that the latter group are more likely to flush badly, but that is
only based on impressions gained from reading the boards, so I might be wrong.
(I wonder how many of the oily-skinned brigade flush badly and/or often?)

On Vitamin D3, perhaps consult the relevant part of our Resource Pages section:

http://rosacea-research.org/wiki/index.php?title=Vitamin_D3

Then scroll down for Dan's explanation of the difference between vitamin D3 and
other forms, which includes this link:

http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/89/11/5387

Kind regards,

Aurelia



#103989 From: "David" <gabrielfan72@...>
Date: Thu Jul 9, 2009 9:04 pm
Subject: [rosacea] Re: oily skin?
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Well I don't know many other people with rosacea to be honest, I'm not sure if
dry hypersensitive skin would make one flush badly. From personal experience, I
can say that I started getting this problem around the end of April and it was
absolute hell for about a month to a month and a half, with my facial color
being off and it felt like I had my head next to a grill a lot of the time
(especially in the evening for some reason). I've been on doxycycline and the
burning has gotten better, I still flush to some extent (particularly my nose)
but it seems to be triggered by certain things like changes in temperature
(especially heat and humidity) and also certain foods which is a real pain in
the ass because I feel like I can't just eat whatever I want anymore.

I've been told by people that it looks very mild but I'm still very
self-conscious about it, this problem has made me feel like I'm not the same
person anymore :( I probably shouldn't feel that way but I do. Anyhow, the skin
on my face seems to be a bit oily recently which I guess is due to the rosacea.
I've been keeping some kleenex with me to blot my face in times when I can't
wash it but I still am very conscious of it. Speaking of face washing, how many
times is too many? I usually seem to like to wash it now about 3 times a day but
I don't want to irritate my skin either. Two times just seems to allow too much
to build up on my skin.


--- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com, "Aurelia.Dawn" <aurelia.dawn@...> wrote:
>
> Yes, oily skin often goes along with rosacea. There seems to be a marked
division into two camps: those with oily, spot-prone skin and those with very
dry and hypersensitive skin.
>
> It seems to me that the latter group are more likely to flush badly, but that
is only based on impressions gained from reading the boards, so I might be
wrong. (I wonder how many of the oily-skinned brigade flush badly and/or often?)
>
> On Vitamin D3, perhaps consult the relevant part of our Resource Pages
section:
>
> http://rosacea-research.org/wiki/index.php?title=Vitamin_D3
>
> Then scroll down for Dan's explanation of the difference between vitamin D3
and other forms, which includes this link:
>
> http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/89/11/5387
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Aurelia
>





#104005 From: "David" <gabrielfan72@...>
Date: Sat Jul 11, 2009 11:06 pm
Subject: [rosacea] Re: oily skin?
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When you say "spot-prone" skin, what do you mean?


--- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com, "Aurelia.Dawn" <aurelia.dawn@...> wrote:
>
> Yes, oily skin often goes along with rosacea. There seems to be a marked
division into two camps: those with oily, spot-prone skin and those with very
dry and hypersensitive skin.
>
> It seems to me that the latter group are more likely to flush badly, but that
is only based on impressions gained from reading the boards, so I might be
wrong. (I wonder how many of the oily-skinned brigade flush badly and/or often?)
>
> On Vitamin D3, perhaps consult the relevant part of our Resource Pages
section:
>
> http://rosacea-research.org/wiki/index.php?title=Vitamin_D3
>
> Then scroll down for Dan's explanation of the difference between vitamin D3
and other forms, which includes this link:
>
> http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/89/11/5387
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Aurelia
>





#103992 From: "Aurelia.Dawn" <aurelia.dawn@...>
Date: Fri Jul 10, 2009 1:40 pm
Subject: Re: [rosacea] Re: oily skin?
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Hi David (gabrielfan72),

How do your skin tone, flushing and burning feelings compare
with the rest of your family? It's good when rosaceans have
relatives who are going through the same thing or, even
better, are a bit older and can offer advice. I hope they're
sympathetic, but are you getting any practical help?

It must have been terrible for you, during that period when
you felt like your head was burning. It's good to hear that
you have improved so much already. Rosacea is full of ups
and downs, but you seem to be on an upswing and since you're
trying so hard, with luck you will soon be vastly improved.

As for frequency of face-washing, most people just go with
once or twice per day.

Kind regards,

Aurelia



#104004 From: "David" <gabrielfan72@...>
Date: Sat Jul 11, 2009 11:03 pm
Subject: [rosacea] Re: oily skin?
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Well, my mother was told she has rosacea by a dermatologist quite a few years
ago. She has some redness in her cheeks and nose which I think gets a little
more noticeable under certain conditions but to be honest I never noticed it
much before I started having this problem myself. When she developed the problem
it was about 10 years ago and I don't even remember it happening actually. I
don't know if she quite remembers how it was for her when it started, she tells
me she had flushing, warmness, and tight skin but still it wasn't recently.


--- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com, "Aurelia.Dawn" <aurelia.dawn@...> wrote:
>
> Hi David (gabrielfan72),
>
> How do your skin tone, flushing and burning feelings compare
> with the rest of your family? It's good when rosaceans have
> relatives who are going through the same thing or, even
> better, are a bit older and can offer advice. I hope they're
> sympathetic, but are you getting any practical help?
>
> It must have been terrible for you, during that period when
> you felt like your head was burning. It's good to hear that
> you have improved so much already. Rosacea is full of ups
> and downs, but you seem to be on an upswing and since you're
> trying so hard, with luck you will soon be vastly improved.
>
> As for frequency of face-washing, most people just go with
> once or twice per day.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Aurelia
>





#103993 From: "Aurelia.Dawn" <aurelia.dawn@...>
Date: Fri Jul 10, 2009 1:59 pm
Subject: Re: [rosacea] Re: oily skin?
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Hi David (gabrielfan72),

Just another thought -

If the main reason for wanting to wash more often is to prevent a build-up of
oil, have you considered that your skin just might need more moisture rather
than less?

One of the paradoxical things about oily skin is that sometimes the more we try
to strip the excess oil, the more the sebaceous glands step up oil production to
counter the perceived dryness.

For that reason, many people find that they do a lot better only washing quickly
with a mild cleanser and lukewarm water, and making sure the skin is always
covered with a light moisturiser.

Also, replenishing the skin's moisture from within can help greatly, which is
why so many skincare routines insist that we drink plenty of fresh water.

The theory is that well-hydrated skin produces sebum that is less thick and
sticky and therefore less likely to block the pores and trap dirt.
Theoretically, when you have a wash, any dirt and sebum should float out from
nicely lubricated pores, resulting in fewer spots and pustules.

If I have mangled that too badly, with luck, some good soul will offer a better
explanation. :)

Kind regards,

Aurelia



#104002 From: "David" <gabrielfan72@...>
Date: Sat Jul 11, 2009 10:59 pm
Subject: [rosacea] Re: oily skin?
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Well I have read that the key to fighting oily skin is more moisture so yes
that's true I suppose. But isn't it still hard finding moisturizers that are
good for skin with rosacea? I guess aloe vera moisturizes so that might be one
possibility. I've actually been using that as a shaving gel and I put some on at
night before bed also.



--- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com, "Aurelia.Dawn" <aurelia.dawn@...> wrote:
>
> Hi David (gabrielfan72),
>
> Just another thought -
>
> If the main reason for wanting to wash more often is to prevent a build-up of
oil, have you considered that your skin just might need more moisture rather
than less?
>
> One of the paradoxical things about oily skin is that sometimes the more we
try to strip the excess oil, the more the sebaceous glands step up oil
production to counter the perceived dryness.
>
> For that reason, many people find that they do a lot better only washing
quickly with a mild cleanser and lukewarm water, and making sure the skin is
always covered with a light moisturiser.
>
> Also, replenishing the skin's moisture from within can help greatly, which is
why so many skincare routines insist that we drink plenty of fresh water.
>
> The theory is that well-hydrated skin produces sebum that is less thick and
sticky and therefore less likely to block the pores and trap dirt.
Theoretically, when you have a wash, any dirt and sebum should float out from
nicely lubricated pores, resulting in fewer spots and pustules.
>
> If I have mangled that too badly, with luck, some good soul will offer a
better explanation. :)
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Aurelia
>





#104041 From: "Aurelia.Dawn" <aurelia.dawn@...>
Date: Wed Jul 15, 2009 5:55 am
Subject: Re: [rosacea] Re: oily skin?
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David ("gabrielfan72") asked me:  "When you say "spot-prone" skin, what do you
mean?"


Hi David,

Sorry to be so slow in replying.

I meant skin where the pores are easily blocked and pimples or pustules keep
occurring.

That seems to be more common with oily skin, where plugs of sebum (the waxy
stuff produced by the sebaceous glands) often block pores and may trap dirt.

Kind regards,

Aurelia



 
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