Hi Lisa,

 

In relation to what you just said about the body shop..... (if you are

interested)

 

I recently started using a couple of products from the body shop that contain

TTO in the hope of testing the demodex theory. I sent them an e-mail to ask

about the concentrations of TTO in their products. This was their response...

 

"Dear Matthew

 

Thank you for your email.

 

The Tea Tree Oil Foaming Face Wash contains around 1% tea tree oil and the

Mattifying Moisture Gel .5%, small quantities but is enough to benefit the

product and make it effective and safe to use.

 

The rest of the product range is similar, .5 to 1% out of 100%, the Tea Tree Oil

products contains the highest at around 15% tea tee oil.

 

Best wishes

Karen Arkey

Customer Service

The Body Shop Australia "

 

When she said "The Tea Tree Oil Products contains the highest at around 15% tea

tree oil" she was referring to their product which just contains the diluted tea

tree oil.

http://www.thebodyshop.com.au/Product.aspx?Id=50

 

Now according to the article that we were all looking at previously

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2007/feb/18/medicineandhealth.health

 

They state that concentrations of Tea Tree Oil less than 1% are safe. I'm trying

to find some more information on that at the moment, and also trying to find out

if concentrations of TTO < 1% will actually kill demodex and their associated

bacteria.

 

Matt.





 

----------------------------------------------------

Hi Jasper.

Oh, please don't go. I've just come back from holiday and thought wow

what a lively debate.



It's good to have opinions and that's what creates the debate. As long

as we are all polite and sensible about it. Well geeh why not? I'm

french and we (the french and my family included) have I beleive

nothing but debates. We might all in the end stick to our guns but

it's always a good thing to hear what others have to say.



I'm not sure about TTO being bad and I am not a user of this product

but I appreciate the knowledge you have given me in this particular

field. Even more so that the body shop who have strong ethics on

cosmetics seem to have a whole range using it... something to

definitely follow.



I think it's a shame that we should 'fight' over issues that are meant

to be helpful and with good intent and the fact that you apologised

for your tone of voice shows this.



Emails can a lot of times appear very abrupt and dry and do not always

truly carry the real intent of the writer.



So lets all please stick together to keep informing each other in as

friendly a manner as we can manage.



BTW Happy New Year to all my fellow rosaceans!

Lisa M.





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For guys out there, I believe that TTO might actually contribute to "man boobs".

No joke, I believe it was a study from early '08.



,Sent from my phone.



On Jan 5, 2009, at 7:00 PM, Matthew I <mtthw_i@...> wrote:



Hi Lisa,



In relation to what you just said about the body shop..... (if you are

interested)



I recently started using a couple of products from the body shop that contain

TTO in the hope of testing the demodex theory. I sent them an e-mail to ask

about the concentrations of TTO in their products. This was their response...



"Dear Matthew



Thank you for your email.



The Tea Tree Oil Foaming Face Wash contains around 1% tea tree oil and the

Mattifying Moisture Gel .5%, small quantities but is enough to benefit the

product and make it effective and safe to use.



The rest of the product range is similar, .5 to 1% out of 100%, the Tea Tree Oil

products contains the highest at around 15% tea tee oil.



Best wishes

Karen Arkey

Customer Service

The Body Shop Australia "



When she said "The Tea Tree Oil Products contains the highest at around 15% tea

tree oil" she was referring to their product which just contains the diluted tea

tree oil.

http://www.thebodyshop.com.au/Product.aspx?Id=50



Now according to the article that we were all looking at previously



http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2007/feb/18/medicineandhealth.health



They state that concentrations of Tea Tree Oil less than 1% are safe. I'm trying

to find some more information on that at the moment, and also trying to find out

if concentrations of TTO < 1% will actually kill demodex and their associated

bacteria.



Matt.





----------------------------------------------------

Hi Jasper.

Oh, please don't go. I've just come back from holiday and thought wow

what a lively debate.



It's good to have opinions and that's what creates the debate. As long

as we are all polite and sensible about it. Well geeh why not? I'm

french and we (the french and my family included) have I beleive

nothing but debates. We might all in the end stick to our guns but

it's always a good thing to hear what others have to say.



I'm not sure about TTO being bad and I am not a user of this product

but I appreciate the knowledge you have given me in this particular

field. Even more so that the body shop who have strong ethics on

cosmetics seem to have a whole range using it... something to

definitely follow.



I think it's a shame that we should 'fight' over issues that are meant

to be helpful and with good intent and the fact that you apologised

for your tone of voice shows this.



Emails can a lot of times appear very abrupt and dry and do not always

truly carry the real intent of the writer.



So lets all please stick together to keep informing each other in as

friendly a manner as we can manage.



BTW Happy New Year to all my fellow rosaceans!

Lisa M.



Stay connected to the people that matter most with a smarter inbox. Take a look

http://au.docs.yahoo.com/mail/smarterinbox



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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Mathew, I believe I once saw a list of topicals and percentages that

would kill adult demodex here:



      http://rosacea-support.org/



Please let us know if you find it!



Gabriella

Hi Gabriella,



I published the list of chemicals that can kill demodex mites on this page



http://rosacea-support.org/just-how-do-you-kill-demodex-mites.html



100% alcohol

50% tea tree oil

100% tea tree oil

100% carraway oil

100% dill weed oil



also ether, xylol, benzene. Ivermectin also does the job as well as permethrin.



This is just in the petri dish of course and many of the chemicals

would be unsuitable for topical or systemic use in humans.



davidp.



On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 1:58 PM, gabri_gallo <gabri_gallo@...> wrote:

>

> Mathew, I believe I once saw a list of topicals and percentages that

> would kill adult demodex here:

>

> http://rosacea-support.org/

>

> Please let us know if you find it!

>

> Gabriella



--

David Pascoe, pascoedj@...

Thank you Matt. That was real interesting. I use to do design quite a

few 'Corporate Social Responsibility Reports' for some big Corporates

(not the Body Shop though, I think they did theirs in-house) and like

to keep as informed as possible on their 'real' ethics. I just don't

like these big companies saying one thing and acting in an other.

Lisa M.



--- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com, Matthew I <mtthw_i@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Lisa,

>  

> In relation to what you just said about the body shop..... (if you

are interested)

>  

> I recently started using a couple of products from the body shop

that contain TTO in the hope of testing the demodex theory. I sent

them an e-mail to ask about the concentrations of TTO in their

products. This was their response...

>  

> "Dear Matthew

>  

> Thank you for your email.

>  

> The Tea Tree Oil Foaming Face Wash contains around 1% tea tree oil

and the Mattifying Moisture Gel .5%, small quantities but is enough to

benefit the product and make it effective and safe to use.

>  

> The rest of the product range is similar, .5 to 1% out of 100%, the

Tea Tree Oil products contains the highest at around 15% tea tee oil.

>  

> Best wishes

> Karen Arkey

> Customer Service

> The Body Shop Australia "

>  

> When she said "The Tea Tree Oil Products contains the highest at

around 15% tea tree oil" she was referring to their product which just

contains the diluted tea tree oil.

> http://www.thebodyshop.com.au/Product.aspx?Id=50

>  

> Now according to the article that we were all looking at previously

>  

> http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2007/feb/18/medicineandhealth.health

>  

> They state that concentrations of Tea Tree Oil less than 1% are

safe. I'm trying to find some more information on that at the moment,

and also trying to find out if concentrations of TTO < 1% will

actually kill demodex and their associated bacteria.

>  

> Matt.

>

>

>  

> ----------------------------------------------------

> Hi Jasper.

> Oh, please don't go. I've just come back from holiday and thought wow

> what a lively debate.

>

> It's good to have opinions and that's what creates the debate. As long

> as we are all polite and sensible about it. Well geeh why not? I'm

> french and we (the french and my family included) have I beleive

> nothing but debates. We might all in the end stick to our guns but

> it's always a good thing to hear what others have to say.

>

> I'm not sure about TTO being bad and I am not a user of this product

> but I appreciate the knowledge you have given me in this particular

> field. Even more so that the body shop who have strong ethics on

> cosmetics seem to have a whole range using it... something to

> definitely follow.

>

> I think it's a shame that we should 'fight' over issues that are meant

> to be helpful and with good intent and the fact that you apologised

> for your tone of voice shows this.

>

> Emails can a lot of times appear very abrupt and dry and do not always

> truly carry the real intent of the writer.

>

> So lets all please stick together to keep informing each other in as

> friendly a manner as we can manage.

>

> BTW Happy New Year to all my fellow rosaceans!

> Lisa M.

>

>

>       Stay connected to the people that matter most with a smarter

inbox. Take a look http://au.docs.yahoo.com/mail/smarterinbox

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>