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#105382 From: Beth Phillips Brown <philipsbrown@...>
Date: Sun Feb 7, 2010 12:00 am
Subject: Re: [rosacea] PSYCHOLOGY Question and Answer session
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Dear Aurelia,

Thank you & the other mods for setting this up.  I read the Q & A.  I know that
these are professional psychs speaking
Iıd ask the doc who talked about depersonalizing the OCD or other disorder by
using a phrase such as ³Thatıs my (my own emphasis) OCD talking² and suggest
that it can be further depersonalized by saying ³Thatıs the OCD talking,² rather
than calling it ³mine.²  Iım taking this approach with the asthma and while itıs
too soon to tell, I  feel strongly that it can only help in the healing process
to go beyond owning it to making it a less personal and therefore victimy thing.
Maybe something of this reasoning or line of thinking will help someone out
there!

Warmly,
Beth PB


The Q&A we conducted with Perth psychologists Professor Peter Drummond, Ph.D.,
and Daphne Su, D.Psych, is now up on the Rosacea Support Resource Pages (RSRP)
and can be found here:

http://rosacea-research.org/wiki/index.php?title=Rosacea_and_Psychology:_Peter_D\
._Drummond%2C_PhD%2C_%26_Daphne_Su%2C_DPsych

We would like to thank Drs Su and Drummond for taking time out of their busy
schedules to help our members. The links are particularly impressive and will
undoubtedly bring a lot of comfort to many rosaceans who find this an
emotionally distressing condition.

Kind regards,

Aurelia

(on behalf of the RS moderators)

#105383 From: Aurelia <aurelia.dawn@...>
Date: Sun Feb 7, 2010 2:20 am
Subject: Re: [rosacea] PSYCHOLOGY Question and Answer session
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Hi Beth,

Your suggestion of changing "That's my OCD talking" to "That's the OCD talking"
is an excellent one, and I shall certainly pass it on to the psychologists.

Good luck with the asthma. Sounds like a well-reasoned plan.

Kindest regards,

Aurelia

#105384 From: Aurelia <aurelia.dawn@...>
Date: Sun Feb 7, 2010 6:05 am
Subject: Re: [rosacea] doxycycline reaction
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Dear L.J.,

We aren't doctors and can't give medical advice, only offer encouragement and
suggestions based on our own knowledge and experience.

Having said that, if I were in your shoes, I would not continue with the same
dermatologist. I would definitely want a second opinion.

You were diagnosed with rosacea only a few weeks ago because of a rash on your
face and eyelids. I might be wrong, but think that would be pretty uncommon for
someone aged 70 who had never previously had any form of rosacea. If at all
possible, please think about seeking a second opinion, in case the rashes are
not rosacea at all, but are a sign of a different disease that requires very
different treatment.

You have had a terrible time with the antibiotics, and are still struggling, and
your doctor thinks you don't need another appointment until March?

I would be asking myself AND MY FAMILY, "Is this really the best care I can
get?"

I wonder what other members think about your situation - whether they, too,
would want a second opinion, or stick with the same derm.

Kind regards,

Aurelia


--------------------------------------------------
From: "liangjuany" <m-cheng2@...>
Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 12:47 PM
To: <rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [rosacea] doxycycline reaction

dear friends; I was on doxycycline for   rosacea , after  ten days and it turn
into a nightmare. i had rashes all over on my face, neck &body  . I was then
told to stop the drug . I was direct to convinent care on a  weekend.
and is now taking Prednisone for 15 day. the rashes has basicly calm
down. but i still have light dry red  paches left on my face etc.
did this ever happen to any of you?
now i am very nervious to put things on my face . I did get Cerave and triderma
facial redness repair as some of you suggested  I also put a little Neutrogena
moisture for sensitive skin.and waiting to get my old face back.

If i have rosacea in the future i will not dare to take oral drug since ther are
all related to doxycline. maybe it was something else . i was told to following
up  in March.Hum. the doctor is sure had a better time than me.
thanks you for being there

#105385 From: "aprilday@..." <aprilday@...>
Date: Sun Feb 7, 2010 2:47 pm
Subject: Need help with makeup
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I am 52 and using bare minerals for about a month and it makes my face itch and
flake.Has anyone else had this problem.

#105386 From: "Janine" <janines4boys@...>
Date: Sun Feb 7, 2010 3:37 pm
Subject: Re: Need help with makeup
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Hi
I have used bare minerals in the past and then all of the sudden it started to
make me itch, i have switched to Belle Pierre it is all natural there are only 4
ingredients.  it is so light, and the coverage is great. Hope this helps.


--- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com, "aprilday@..." <aprilday@...> wrote:
>
> I am 52 and using bare minerals for about a month and it makes my face itch
and flake.Has anyone else had this problem.
>

#105387 From: Beth Phillips Brown <philipsbrown@...>
Date: Sun Feb 7, 2010 4:13 pm
Subject: Re: [rosacea] Need help with makeup
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It could be that the bismuth oxychloride in the Bare Minerals is the culprit.
Look for a brand that does not use this non-natural substance and see if that
works for you.

Bare Minerals looked fabulous on but after 2 days, I had the same problem.
Iıve used MiEssence and Everyday Minerals with no problems.

Hope this helps!!


Beth PB



I am 52 and using bare minerals for about a month and it makes my face itch and
flake.Has anyone else had this problem.

#105388 From: "pinkcat212" <fminyc@...>
Date: Sun Feb 7, 2010 5:39 pm
Subject: Baby Quasar?
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Hi guys,

Does anyone have info on these products (BQ comes in red light and blue light)?
I did a search here, but only found some posts from 2006 that weren't very
conclusive.

I was planning on scheduling a derm appt. soon and the cost of one v-beam would
be like the cost of one color of Baby Quasar.

Although I googled around, I could find no review where the person said, "yes,
this is wonderful." or even "no, don't bother."

What do you guys think? :-)

Thanks!

Cat

#105389 From: "aprilday@..." <aprilday@...>
Date: Sun Feb 7, 2010 6:25 pm
Subject: Re: Need help with makeup
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Thanks for the response I just hate knowing I spent all that money can not wear
the stuff.

--- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com, "Janine" <janines4boys@...> wrote:
>
> Hi
> I have used bare minerals in the past and then all of the sudden it started to
make me itch, i have switched to Belle Pierre it is all natural there are only 4
ingredients.  it is so light, and the coverage is great. Hope this helps.
>
>
> --- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com, "aprilday@" <aprilday@> wrote:
> >
> > I am 52 and using bare minerals for about a month and it makes my face itch
and flake.Has anyone else had this problem.
> >
>

#105390 From: Aurelia <aurelia.dawn@...>
Date: Sun Feb 7, 2010 6:36 pm
Subject: Re: [rosacea] Re: Need help with makeup
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Hi aprilday,

Where did you buy the Bare Minerals? What is the vendor's refund policy
like?

If it was a store, how would you feel about going in and saying "This stuff is
making my face itch and flake. Can I have a refund, please?" They might be
sympathetic, especially if you are a regular customer.

What do you think?

Kind regards,

Aurelia

#105391 From: "pinkcat212" <fminyc@...>
Date: Sun Feb 7, 2010 7:20 pm
Subject: Re: Baby Quasar?
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I got impatient and I ordered the set. :-)

Cat

--- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com, "pinkcat212" <fminyc@...> wrote:
>
> Hi guys,
>
> Does anyone have info on these products (BQ comes in red light and blue
light)? I did a search here, but only found some posts from 2006 that weren't
very conclusive.
>
> I was planning on scheduling a derm appt. soon and the cost of one v-beam
would be like the cost of one color of Baby Quasar.
>
> Although I googled around, I could find no review where the person said, "yes,
this is wonderful." or even "no, don't bother."
>
> What do you guys think? :-)
>
> Thanks!
>
> Cat
>

#105392 From: "aurelia_aurora" <aurelia.dawn@...>
Date: Sun Feb 7, 2010 9:02 pm
Subject: Re: [rosacea] ayurvedic medicine
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Hi Janine,

Regarding the use of turmeric, I wrote this to you:

"Some people are wary of turmeric because it is one of a whole group of things
that can seem to improve rosacea (and other conditions) by damping down the
immune system. There are concerns that this might ultimately leave the system
more vulnerable to more serious dangers. However, it is controversial, meaning
that there is no general consensus and it's up to each individual to decide what
they're happy with."

Our dear friend Dan knows far more about such things than anyone else I know, so
I sought his advice and he has very kindly sent the following note for you, in
case it helps.

Kind regards,

Aurelia

-----------------------------

As you know, I have no medical background, and I'm certainly no expert on
Western or Ayurvedic medicines, but I would assume Ayurvedic experts are talking
about inflammation when they discuss "pitta (heat within)".   As you know,
reducing inflammation is really at the base of current western medical
treatments for rosacea too...

Low dose oral antibiotics, even submicrobial doses of these antibiotics and low
dose topical antibiotic creams and ointments are really the norm of western
treatments.   As you know, this line of treatment, along with another mainstay,
trigger avoidance, hopes to help keep rosacea minimized as a chronically managed
disease.  For most of us, however, the unfortunate result is at best having to
deal with rosacea for the rest of our lives, and at worst a continual worsening
of symptoms.

I believe strongly that the inflammation underlying rosacea is caused by
infections, likely multiple infections, and that the only way to completely
eliminate rosacea is to treat these infections rather than interfere with our
bodies' already hindered immune response to these infections.    Curcumin /
Turmeric has been shown to be a potent 5-LOX inhibitor, which interferes with
our bodies' ability to fight infections through the blocking of downstream
Leukotrienes, particularly Leukotriene B4, as Leukotriene B4 has been shown to
have very important interactions with internally produced antimicrobial
peptides, including the very important human cathelicidin (LL-37).

In short, although I'm certainly no expert, I'd recommend boosting the immune
response through Vitamin D3, zinc and magnesium supplements.  Studies suggest
that zinc and magnesium are required for proper Vit D3 metabolism and use.   I'd
also highly recommend a good probiotic, particularly those that include L.
reuteri since this probiotic strain has been shown to have antimicrobial effects
against multiple pathogens in its own right.

More information on cathelicidins and their important roles in fighting
infections can be found here:

Vitamin D, Cathelicidins, and Infection:
http://www.cpnhelp.org/vitamin_d3_cathelicidins_

More information on cathelicidins and their interactions with Leukotriene B4 can
be found here:

Cathelicidins and their Important Interactions with Leukotriene B4:
http://www.cpnhelp.org/cathelicidins_and_their_i

Anyway, hope this helps.   And I certainly wish Janine the best of luck!

Take care...

Dan

#105393 From: ert4dogz@...
Date: Sun Feb 7, 2010 4:14 pm
Subject: Re: [rosacea] Re: Need help with makeup
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If the products are Bare Escentuals bare minerals, they will give a refund
in 30 days no questions asked.  You need a receipt.

Best!

Sunny

In Beaverton, OR


In a message dated 2/7/2010 10:44:51 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
aurelia.dawn@... writes:

Hi  aprilday,

Where did you buy the Bare Minerals? What is the vendor's  refund policy
like?

If it was a store, how would you feel about  going in and saying "This
stuff is making my face itch and flake. Can I have a  refund, please?" They
might be sympathetic, especially if you are a regular  customer.

What do you think?

Kind regards,

Aurelia


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#105394 From: Aurelia <aurelia.dawn@...>
Date: Sun Feb 7, 2010 9:58 pm
Subject: Re: [rosacea] Need help with makeup
aurelia_aurora
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Hello again, Aprilday.

As Beth said, it might well be that bismuth oxychloride is irritating your skin.

I have two suggestions for you. Firstly, some people whose skin is irritated by
mineral make-up find it works okay as long as they protect the skin first by
putting on a good level of moisturiser. Secondly, I wonder if you might find it
helpful to read two very interesting threads in the make-up section of our
direct-posting board, RSCom (Rosacea Support Community):

Mimicocolulu's great post "Potential Irritant: Bismuth Oxychloride in
Mineral Makeup"
http://rosacea-support.org/community/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=127

& SouthernMoss's surprising post "the lowdown on bismuth"
http://rosacea-support.org/community/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=1274

In the latter, SouthernMoss explains having read that "bismuth has a crystalline
shape that can actually scratch or tear the skin when the makeup is buffed onto
your face.  This is what causes the bumps, redness, or itching that many people
experience when they use products containing bismuth. Some people even have the
reactions just from having the product on their skin, even without the buffing
action."

Kind regards,

Aurelia

#105395 From: "liangjuany" <m-cheng2@...>
Date: Sun Feb 7, 2010 9:56 pm
Subject: Re: [rosacea] doxycycline reaction
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Dear Aurelia and other friends:

Thanks for all your help. I am finish up Prednisone, a type of steroid. The main
side effect is occasional sleeplessness.  However, the rashes have calmed down. 
I hope they will all disappear in a few days, and I will have my normal skin. 
You are right.  I don't plan to return to the same doctor.  I will also stay
away from doxycycline.

LJ

--- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com, Aurelia <aurelia.dawn@...> wrote:
>
> Dear L.J.,
>
> We aren't doctors and can't give medical advice, only offer encouragement and
suggestions based on our own knowledge and experience.
>
> Having said that, if I were in your shoes, I would not continue with the same
dermatologist. I would definitely want a second opinion.
>
> You were diagnosed with rosacea only a few weeks ago because of a rash on your
face and eyelids. I might be wrong, but think that would be pretty uncommon for
someone aged 70 who had never previously had any form of rosacea. If at all
possible, please think about seeking a second opinion, in case the rashes are
not rosacea at all, but are a sign of a different disease that requires very
different treatment.
>
> You have had a terrible time with the antibiotics, and are still struggling,
and your doctor thinks you don't need another appointment until March?
>
> I would be asking myself AND MY FAMILY, "Is this really the best care I can
get?"
>
> I wonder what other members think about your situation - whether they, too,
would want a second opinion, or stick with the same derm.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Aurelia
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "liangjuany" <m-cheng2@>
> Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 12:47 PM
> To: <rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [rosacea] doxycycline reaction
>
> dear friends; I was on doxycycline for   rosacea , after  ten days and it turn
into a nightmare. i had rashes all over on my face, neck &body  . I was then
told to stop the drug . I was direct to convinent care on a  weekend.
> and is now taking Prednisone for 15 day. the rashes has basicly calm
> down. but i still have light dry red  paches left on my face etc.
> did this ever happen to any of you?
> now i am very nervious to put things on my face . I did get Cerave and
triderma facial redness repair as some of you suggested  I also put a little
Neutrogena moisture for sensitive skin.and waiting to get my old face back.
>
> If i have rosacea in the future i will not dare to take oral drug since ther
are all related to doxycline. maybe it was something else . i was told to
following up  in March.Hum. the doctor is sure had a better time than me.
> thanks you for being there
>

#105396 From: "pinkcat212" <fminyc@...>
Date: Mon Feb 8, 2010 12:32 am
Subject: Re: [rosacea] ayurvedic medicine
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May I ask, does pomegranate juice have its effect the same way turmeric does?


Cat

--- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com, "aurelia_aurora" <aurelia.dawn@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi Janine,
>
> Regarding the use of turmeric, I wrote this to you:
>
> "Some people are wary of turmeric because it is one of a whole group of things
that can seem to improve rosacea (and other conditions) by damping down the
immune system. There are concerns that this might ultimately leave the system
more vulnerable to more serious dangers. However, it is controversial, meaning
that there is no general consensus and it's up to each individual to decide what
they're happy with."
>
> Our dear friend Dan knows far more about such things than anyone else I know,
so I sought his advice and he has very kindly sent the following note for you,
in case it helps.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Aurelia
>
> -----------------------------
>
> As you know, I have no medical background, and I'm certainly no expert on
Western or Ayurvedic medicines, but I would assume Ayurvedic experts are talking
about inflammation when they discuss "pitta (heat within)".   As you know,
reducing inflammation is really at the base of current western medical
treatments for rosacea too...
>
> Low dose oral antibiotics, even submicrobial doses of these antibiotics and
low dose topical antibiotic creams and ointments are really the norm of western
treatments.   As you know, this line of treatment, along with another mainstay,
trigger avoidance, hopes to help keep rosacea minimized as a chronically managed
disease.  For most of us, however, the unfortunate result is at best having to
deal with rosacea for the rest of our lives, and at worst a continual worsening
of symptoms.
>
> I believe strongly that the inflammation underlying rosacea is caused by
infections, likely multiple infections, and that the only way to completely
eliminate rosacea is to treat these infections rather than interfere with our
bodies' already hindered immune response to these infections.    Curcumin /
Turmeric has been shown to be a potent 5-LOX inhibitor, which interferes with
our bodies' ability to fight infections through the blocking of downstream
Leukotrienes, particularly Leukotriene B4, as Leukotriene B4 has been shown to
have very important interactions with internally produced antimicrobial
peptides, including the very important human cathelicidin (LL-37).
>
> In short, although I'm certainly no expert, I'd recommend boosting the immune
response through Vitamin D3, zinc and magnesium supplements.  Studies suggest
that zinc and magnesium are required for proper Vit D3 metabolism and use.   I'd
also highly recommend a good probiotic, particularly those that include L.
reuteri since this probiotic strain has been shown to have antimicrobial effects
against multiple pathogens in its own right.
>
> More information on cathelicidins and their important roles in fighting
infections can be found here:
>
> Vitamin D, Cathelicidins, and Infection:
> http://www.cpnhelp.org/vitamin_d3_cathelicidins_
>
> More information on cathelicidins and their interactions with Leukotriene B4
can be found here:
>
> Cathelicidins and their Important Interactions with Leukotriene B4:
> http://www.cpnhelp.org/cathelicidins_and_their_i
>
> Anyway, hope this helps.   And I certainly wish Janine the best of luck!
>
> Take care...
>
> Dan
>

#105397 From: "JenniferO" <jenniomom@...>
Date: Mon Feb 8, 2010 10:19 pm
Subject: Derma E
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Has anyone tried the Derma E products?  Specifically the one with pycnogenol? 
My skin is now rotating between burning and itching....I'm sure the cold/dry
winter weather is not helping.  Desperate to find something to calm it down. 
Have had rosacea for appx 14 years.

#105398 From: diane Wickersheim <dianewickersheim@...>
Date: Mon Feb 8, 2010 3:40 pm
Subject: Re: [rosacea] doxycycline reaction
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I too had a reaction to the doxy.  It was over the summer and happened after 4
days of being on it.  As soon as I went outside my skin started to burn.  The
sun brought out a rash on my forearm and my feet.  Two very weird places.  It
took a very long time to get rid of the rash on my arm(in fact it still
sometimes flares and will itch).  They had to biopsy the welts on my toes to
determine what was wrong.  Its a shame because it seemed to initially help for
what it was perscribed for.

________________________________
From: liangjuany <m-cheng2@...
To: rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, February 7, 2010 4:56:14 PM
Subject: Re: [rosacea] doxycycline reaction

Dear Aurelia and other friends:

Thanks for all your help. I am finish up Prednisone, a type of steroid. The main
side effect is occasional sleeplessness. However, the rashes have calmed down. I
hope they will all disappear in a few days, and I will have my normal skin. You
are right. I don't plan to return to the same doctor. I will also stay away from
doxycycline.

LJ

#105399 From: <t8ergrl@...>
Date: Mon Feb 8, 2010 6:04 pm
Subject: Re:Need help with makeup
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Bare Minerals contains bismuth which is probably the main culprit.  I use
Signature Minerals.  This has very few ingredients and all natural.  I think no
more than 4-5 ingredients total.  You can find it at signatureminerals.com it is
also much cheaper.  I hope this helps.

Pat

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#105400 From: Aurelia <aurelia.dawn@...>
Date: Tue Feb 9, 2010 12:03 am
Subject: Re: [rosacea] ayurvedic medicine
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Pinkcat212 wrote:  "May I ask, does pomegranate juice have its effect the same
way turmeric does?"


Hi Cat,

I put this to Dan, and here is his answer.

"I found one study suggesting that pomegranates have some 5-LOX inhibiting
qualities:

Antioxidant and eicosanoid enzyme inhibition properties of pomegranate seed oil
and fermented juice flavonoids:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10432202

So I wouldn't load up on it.   It's reported to be quite healthy, and a glass of
it every now and then probably wouldn't hurt.   Everything in moderation..."

Kind regards,

Aurelia

#105401 From: "pinkcat212" <fminyc@...>
Date: Tue Feb 9, 2010 2:24 am
Subject: Re: [rosacea] ayurvedic medicine
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Thank you, Aurelia, and thank you to Dan.

This is a good reminder of, as Dan repeated, the adage, Everything In
Moderation. Even turmeric. Why, even red wine and chocolate ;-)

Nature is so much more subtle than we can ever figure.

Best,

Cat



--- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com, Aurelia <aurelia.dawn@...> wrote:
>
> Pinkcat212 wrote:  "May I ask, does pomegranate juice have its effect the same
way turmeric does?"
>
>
> Hi Cat,
>
> I put this to Dan, and here is his answer.
>
> "I found one study suggesting that pomegranates have some 5-LOX inhibiting
qualities:
>
> Antioxidant and eicosanoid enzyme inhibition properties of pomegranate seed
oil and fermented juice flavonoids:
> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10432202
>
> So I wouldn't load up on it.   It's reported to be quite healthy, and a glass
of it every now and then probably wouldn't hurt.   Everything in moderation..."
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Aurelia
>

#105402 From: Aurelia <aurelia.dawn@...>
Date: Tue Feb 9, 2010 2:35 am
Subject: Re: [rosacea] ayurvedic medicine
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Kittycat,

> Nature is so much more subtle than we can ever figure. <

Ah, but you seem bright and philosophical and I had visions of you figuring out
the whole scheme of nature, the universe and everything.  ;)

Kind regards,

Disillusioned

#105403 From: "aurelia_aurora" <aurelia.dawn@...>
Date: Tue Feb 9, 2010 2:52 am
Subject: Re: [rosacea] doxycycline reaction
aurelia_aurora
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Hi LJ,

That sounds very sensible!

Best of luck, and please let us know how you get on.

Kind regards,

Aurelia


--- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com, "liangjuany" <m-cheng2@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Aurelia and other friends:
>
> Thanks for all your help. I am finish up Prednisone, a type of steroid. The
main side effect is occasional sleeplessness.  However, the rashes have calmed
down.  I hope they will all disappear in a few days, and I will have my normal
skin.  You are right.  I don't plan to return to the same doctor.  I will also
stay away from doxycycline.
>
> LJ

#105404 From: Elena Mutter <emgm42000@...>
Date: Tue Feb 9, 2010 3:09 am
Subject: Re: [rosacea] Two questions- eyes and oozing red bumps
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I have a question about the milk of magnesia.....after you put it on and then
put on a moisturizer, it seems like the moisturizer cancels out the milk of
magnesia.  Do you think that's the case?  I like the idea of "pores tightening
up" but not sure once the moisturizer goes on that the MOM is even still there. 
Just curious.
Take care,
Elena

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From: ert4dogz@...
Subject: Re: [rosacea] Two questions- eyes and oozing red bumps
To: rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, January 30, 2010, 12:50 PM

This may sound really crazy, but the thing I use to dry up bumps like this and
even sometimes ward off a pimple actually fully developing is Milk of
Magnesia..the plain formula, not the cherry. LOL. It's a wonderful drying agent
that doesn't leave the skin feeling dry, just the pimple dries out and as an
added bonus, pores noticeably tighten up too. I put it on before bed, and also
use it under makeup, before the moisturizer. It's loaded with zinc and magnesium
too.

Best!

Sunny

In Beaverton, OR

#105405 From: "bnassmom" <hsmith1970@...>
Date: Tue Feb 9, 2010 3:09 am
Subject: New to the group
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Just wanted to pop in and say "hi" to everyone!!  I have had rosacea for about
the past 10 years- since I was 29.  I hate looking at my face most of the time. 
In the past, I have been on Doxycycline and that helped.  I have not found any
ointments or creams that help though.  Right now, we don't have any insurance so
I am trying to find something otc that might help.  Any suggestions?
I am so happy to have found this group!!!!!  People who understand will be so
refreshing.  I am tired of people saying "it does not look that bad".  I know
that they are just trying to make me feel better.  But it does look that bad.
I really am not negative all of the time :-)  Just down on my face at this
moment!!  lol

#105406 From: Aurelia <aurelia.dawn@...>
Date: Tue Feb 9, 2010 4:36 am
Subject: Re: [rosacea] PSYCHOLOGY Question and Answer session
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Hi Beth,

I ran your very helpful suggestion by the doctors and they agreed with
substituting "my" for "the", so the answer now reads:  "It is also important to
reframe those thoughts as "that is the OCD or BDD speaking" rather than to
personalise it."

Thanks very much for caring enough to let us know.

Kind regards,

Aurelia

#105407 From: "geeg88" <geeg88@...>
Date: Tue Feb 9, 2010 5:20 am
Subject: Re: I don't know what to do.....
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Hi Jennifer,

Desperation....anger....bitterness....panic over possible rejection.....

I've been there.  Me saying that doesn't help much, huh.  But, bottom line,
that's all about any of us can really say.  Perhaps someone here will be able to
suggest a medication that will help you.  I hope so.  If not, then perhaps my
saying that you're not alone will give you a measure of comfort.

In the mean time, start an intensive search for medication and life style
changes that will help your condition.  I'm lucky....I found a woman who loves
me inspite of my skin problems.  The thing is, I think you will be able to
improve your skin condition.  I believe that....REALLY.  I also believe that
you'll be able to find someone who will love you, bad skin and all.  There are
some very good people out there.  It may be painful, but keep looking for that
right person.  Believe me, he's out there.

If I can be of any help, let me know.


Geeg



--- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com, "Jennifer Moore" <wol13cd@...> wrote:
>
> I just recently developed what I believe is acne rosacea. It presented after
two corses of differnt antibiotics to treat a sinus infection. I will be 30 in 2
weeks and I feel like this is the end of the world. My neck and chest are
constantly red and hot and my checks are temp. dependent. In addition I am
dealing with acne side of it as well. I just want to hide from the world. I use
to have nice skin, I use to be attactive but know I my skin looks horrible. If
you say pictures from a month ago to know you wouldn't believe I was the same
person. Why does this happen so quickly. What can I do to stop it? I have been
dating this person for about 4 month know and I really like him but I am afraid
he will decide I'm not worth it when he sees my face, neck and chest. I haven't
seen him since this started b/c I am so embarassed. I am afraid I will be alone
forever b/c of this who would want to be with someone who has this kind of a
problem? How do I tell him that yes a month ago my skin was nice and ohh gee
know it's horrible b/c of this condition and there may be nothing I can do to
make it better. I don't wear makeup so that is not an option for me.I keep
thinking that as I get older I have a large nose to look forward to. I am so
scared and afraid and upset that I don't know what to do. Nobody understands how
that not only does it look bad but it burns and I can not get any relief from
it. Is there any hope?  What can I do to make it better ASAP? Will it ever be
better? Does anyone have any advise?
>

#105408 From: Elena <emgm42000@...>
Date: Tue Feb 9, 2010 12:47 pm
Subject: Re: [rosacea] PSYCHOLOGY Question and Answer session
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It's funny this came up.  I have instinctively always said that for my son from
the very beginning about OCD when things get particularly bad......"that's THE
OCD, not you.".  It's a small comfort, the they need that to grab onto.

Take care,
Elena

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 8, 2010, at 11:36 PM, Aurelia <aurelia.dawn@...> wrote:

Hi Beth,

I ran your very helpful suggestion by the doctors and they agreed with
substituting "my" for "the", so the answer now reads: "It is also important to
reframe those thoughts as "that is the OCD or BDD speaking" rather than to
personalise it."

Thanks very much for caring enough to let us know.

Kind regards,

Aurelia






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#105409 From: "kathy_g75" <kathy_g75@...>
Date: Tue Feb 9, 2010 9:06 pm
Subject: Rosacea and slightly swollen eyes (under the eye and the eyelids)
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Hi, I've been diagnosed with Rosacea a few months ago.  I think Rosacea might be
related to the puffy/swollen eyes but I'm not sure.  Any thoughts...

#105410 From: "pinkcat212" <fminyc@...>
Date: Wed Feb 10, 2010 2:47 am
Subject: Re: Rosacea and slightly swollen eyes (under the eye and the eyelids)
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Sure, you can have ocular rosacea. I'll tell you what helps me:

Fish oil caps, flaxseed oil caps and doing a warm (warm, never hot) compress on
my eyes with a washcloth in the a.m. for a minute).

Also, Theratears drops are good.



--- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com, "kathy_g75" <kathy_g75@...> wrote:
>
> Hi, I've been diagnosed with Rosacea a few months ago.  I think Rosacea might
be related to the puffy/swollen eyes but I'm not sure.  Any thoughts...
>

#105411 From: "kathy_g75" <kathy_g75@...>
Date: Wed Feb 10, 2010 3:37 am
Subject: Re: Rosacea and slightly swollen eyes (under the eye and the eyelids)
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Thanks!  I'll give it a try.

--- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com, "pinkcat212" <fminyc@...> wrote:
>
> Sure, you can have ocular rosacea. I'll tell you what helps me:
>
> Fish oil caps, flaxseed oil caps and doing a warm (warm, never hot) compress
on my eyes with a washcloth in the a.m. for a minute).
>
> Also, Theratears drops are good.
>
>
>
> --- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com, "kathy_g75" <kathy_g75@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi, I've been diagnosed with Rosacea a few months ago.  I think Rosacea
might be related to the puffy/swollen eyes but I'm not sure.  Any thoughts...
> >
>

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