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After 3 IPL Lumenis treatments Dr. says my vessels aren't responding   Message List  
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Re: [rosacea] Re: After 3 IPL Lumenis treatments Dr. says my vessels aren't responding

Hi

Do you think that the most effective settings were not used. In my case,
I believe that I would have had better results if the derm. had adjusted
the filters, the number of pulses. duration of pulses and interval
between pulses. I have type 1 rosacea ( no breakouts ) but an overall
rosy tone to my skin ( no obvious dilated vessels ). My derm does not
and will not use the triple protocol. I feel totally frustrated.

Linda


kate_dmsn wrote:
>
> IPl didn't work for me either..there are lot's of different lasers to
> try but i think it's important to know before hand that it won't
> always work. Not many doctors seem to be to forthcoming about their
> success rates.
>
> After i had four unsecessful ipl treatments I found a great derm who
> has every kind of laser and was extremely honest about results
> (whereas the person i had the ipl with had said it always worked).
>
> My derm has had the most success with v-beam for flushing but said in
> his experience there was about a 30% chance that my flushing would
> respond well to treatment. His suggested plan was to do three v-beam
> treatments (spaced three months apart)and if that didn't help and i
> wanted to try again, he would next try the KTP laser (and then if no
> results he'd usually then do IPL and lastly YAG).
>
> Luckily for me after two v-beam i have seen good results. I still
> flush just as often but it is now more pink than red and doesn't last
> as long or feel as hot and painful, which i'm really happy with.
>
> So hang in there hopefully you will find something else that helps.
>
> --- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:rosacea-support%40yahoogroups.com>, "arb161" <arb161@...> wrote:
> >
> > --- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:rosacea-support%40yahoogroups.com>, "toronto06240"
> >
> > I was also told that I was laser resistant after vbeam kept my
> > disease in remission for a year and then stopped working. Prior to
> > that I failed IPL. Then I failed with Dr. Darm and a Doc using the
> > yag only. I was lucky that a lot of that time my insurance was
> > covering. Still lots of money down the drain. You might want to try
> > the vbeam, it has been very helpful to some. In my case I am
> > currently having some luck with cynosure- combination pulsed dye
> > laser and yag. Painful, slow, expensive (doc will only bill as
> > cosmetic)but after 2 treatments I have seen improvement. I have
> > severe flushing and redness.Both have been reduced and I'm trying
> to
> > be hopeful.Unfortunately this is a very difficult disease. I always
> > get a little depressed when someone posts great success after one
> > series of treatments-many of us are just not that lucky.Don't give
> up
> > hope.In my humble opinion you should not have any more treatments
> > with this laser- call it a loss and move on to something else.
> Don't
> > give up hope.
> > Arlene
> > Arlene
> >
> >
> > <toronto06240@> wrote:
> > >
> > > He says some people's vessels are like that.
> > > I never knew when I started that it might not
> > > work! It's not a question of me needing
> > > a few more treatments than someone else- it just doesn't
> > > work on me so I wasted $1500.
> > > If I had been told that there was a possibility I would have asked
> > > in what percentage of cases does it not work. I was
> > > told 4-5 treatments and I would only start to see
> > > improvement after the second one. I had prepaid the 4th
> > > as part of a package and can't get a refund. Not only did
> > > it not work on the rosacea on my cheeks but my face is
> > > blotchier than ever. It made the very light pigmentation
> > > patches I had even darker so he sprayed them with something
> > > to make them form a scab and fall off. But he couldn't
> > > spray my whole face so I'm left with a more uneven complexion
> > > than before. I'm still waiting to see the results of the spray.
> > > I got a second opinion from 2 dermatologists at a teaching
> > > hospital and they say that he used the best laser and
> > > some people don't respond. I asked what percentage of patients
> > > it doesn't respond and he said there have been no studies done
> > > so he couldn't say. He said they could try treatments
> > > on the rosacea with a Perfecta laser (very expensive, only
> > > 2 in Canada) but I might not know if it works until 7 treatments
> > > ($600 x 7 = $4200). I don't want to have the 4th prepaid IPL
> > treatment
> > > because it doesn't work on the vessels and I don't want my skin
> > > pigmentation problem to get worse. He thinks I should have the
> 4th
> > IPL
> > > because it "always makes your skin look better and you can never
> > have
> > > enough of them."I feel taken. I only joined
> > > the support group today after receiving the 2nd opinion.
> > >
> >
>
>




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He says some people's vessels are like that. I never knew when I started that it might not work! It's not a question of me needing a few more treatments than...
toronto06240
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Jan 29, 2007
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who is your doctor that did this/ toronto06240 <toronto06240@...> wrote: He says some people's vessels are like that. I never knew when I...
david black
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Jan 30, 2007
12:52 am

Hi, A warm welcome to the group, although I'm very sorry that you're joining in such circumstances. I don't think we've ever seen any proper statistics, but it...
Aurelia
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Jan 30, 2007
4:15 am

Well I am in the same boat.. I had 3 IPLs with a photoderm with no improvement. I then had 4 IPls with a different DR and a Lumenis One and still no ...
agent568
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Jan 30, 2007
5:08 pm

... I was also told that I was laser resistant after vbeam kept my disease in remission for a year and then stopped working. Prior to that I failed IPL. Then I...
arb161
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Jan 30, 2007
9:58 pm

IPl didn't work for me either..there are lot's of different lasers to try but i think it's important to know before hand that it won't always work. Not many...
kate_dmsn
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Jan 31, 2007
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Hi Do you think that the most effective settings were not used. In my case, I believe that I would have had better results if the derm. had adjusted the...
Dennis & Linda Galway
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Jan 31, 2007
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Hi Linda, It's always good to hear from you, although I am sorry that your IPL doc still refuses to use the settings you want. That really must be intensely...
Aurelia
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Feb 1, 2007
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I still find it hard to believe that blood vessels can be non responsive! Kind of sounds like blame the patient if you can't do the job. How are you Aurelia?...
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