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Re: [rosacea] Re: Demodex Solutions and Dr. Nase   Message List  
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[rosacea] Re: Demodex Solutions and Dr. Nase

--- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com, ian <csciian@y...> wrote:
>
> I understand and sympathize with both sides of the
> view on this, but I'm going to have to agree with Dr.
> Nase in this respect. There's way too much discussion
> over Demodex involvement with Acne/Rosacea on the
> internet in general.
>
> I remember a little over a year ago after finding out
> about Rosacea and doing internet searches, the first
> pages that were brought up were Demodex Solutions and
> Rosacea LTD. Plus, there's alot of talk on this board
> about mite involvement when there's a very simple/easy
> way to see if it plays any role in your
> Rosacea/Acne/Whatever. Why not just go to a physician,
> get a quick prescription for Stromectol, and give it a
> whirl? Hell - Dr. Nase even posted a few studies
> awhile back ago about just this.
>
> If anything, a prescription of Stromectol appears to
> be one of the safest and most effective medications
> for ruling out mite involvement.
>
> I'd much rather concentrate on getting to the very
> scientific heart of the disorder. That's the only way
> there'll ever be a "cure".
>
> Ian



Well said Ian. That is exactly what I am getting at. The two
ladies who thought I was too firm on my stance have to understand
that there is no one else to put things in perspective. No one. I
absolutely understand you can make you own choices. But, I have
seen demodex jump up every couple months and it just takes over an
entire board. It swamps my emails and it replicates just like those
critters. Brady Barrows has a great site for Demodex -- there is a
lot of good information and patient experiences. There is no need
to bring that frenzy into a board that looks at all the possible
avenues. I would hate to see two sites focused on demodex. Where
would that get us? I just think that we should continue going over
the underlying pathophysiology of rosacea.

The poster that was a little miffed with my stance should also re-
read my post, I am not telling anyone not to buy demodex products at
all. If you want to try it go ahead. I am CLEARLY critiquing the
claims that are made on the website -- these claims are wrong.
This is not "going too far" at all. If its a fish, call it a fish.
The Internet advertising world has now taken over what people know
about rosacea and on most search engines one of the first things
that every newbie sees is that demodex cause rosacea and that these
products cause a "near 100% cure". So, they start off trying the
creams and lotions for 6 to 9 months and just cant understand why
they dont respond because this treatment cures all rosaceans.

In every demodex post I have used the term perspective. Keep it in
perspective. A small percentage will be helped and the rest will
not. So, I would hate to see our board read like this:

Z-cream post
Re: Z-Cream
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Regards,

Geoffrey
______________________________

Dr. Geoffrey Nase
Ph.D. Neurovascular Physiologist
http://www.drnase.com
______________________________







>
> --- joy4ami <joy4ami@y...> wrote:
> > I for one have suffered permanent skin damage from
> > laser, BUT I do
> > not trash or put down anyone who DOES find positive
> > results in the
> > treatment of their rosacea thru the use of laser
> > treatments.
> >
> > I don't use demodex either, BUT again, that is my
> > choice. Dr. Nase,
> > your comments are often welcome, but sometimes you
> > go to far, allow
> > US to decide what is best for the treatment of OUR
> > skin. Knowledge
> > is power. Allow us the opportunity to discover
> > knowledge.
> >
> > Ami







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Dr Nase, How has a few questions asking about demodex "taken over this board"? Although I've chosen a non-prescription route to treatment, I'm open to laser...
Rachael M
ratchie55
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May 11, 2005
6:32 pm

I for one have suffered permanent skin damage from laser, BUT I do not trash or put down anyone who DOES find positive results in the treatment of their...
joy4ami
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May 11, 2005
6:57 pm

I understand and sympathize with both sides of the view on this, but I'm going to have to agree with Dr. Nase in this respect. There's way too much discussion ...
ian
csciian
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May 11, 2005
7:50 pm

... Well said Ian. That is exactly what I am getting at. The two ladies who thought I was too firm on my stance have to understand that there is no one else...
Dr. Geoffrey Nase, PhD
drnase2000
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May 11, 2005
10:34 pm

Without taking any sides here, the role (or non-role) of demodex mites in rosacea symptoms and Demodex Solutions is something that will continue to come up on...
katwalker1977
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May 12, 2005
4:09 am

Hello Kat, ....I really like what you wrote below. It is constructive, intuitive and makes sense. I think I can add some more points that I think are germane...
Dr. Geoffrey Nase, PhD
drnase2000
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May 12, 2005
6:55 am

Dr. Nase, You are certainly passionate about how you feel this support group should operate. It is admirable. However, I am afraid this board will never be...
paulandsilus
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May 12, 2005
2:37 pm

Deal PaulandSilus, Your name appears to be new in the group and perhaps this explains your post. This group has evolved through discussion, differing opinion...
Paul Smith
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May 12, 2005
11:06 pm

Amen, Paul Smith....
arteest103@...
arteest103
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May 13, 2005
7:31 pm

Well, I suppose I should admit that I have probably had more technical disgreements with Geoffrey than most on this Board, but I would never advocate for a...
rdl000
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May 13, 2005
1:45 am

... Not really. See the abstract below. Logan J Am Acad Dermatol. 2003 Nov;49(5 Suppl):S272-4. Demodex abscesses: clinical and therapeutic challenges. ...
loganruns73
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May 12, 2005
6:51 am

Thanks for sharing the abstract, Logan. Unfortunately, I was just paraphrasing from a previous post by Dr. Nase... and I believe he was pulling from a few...
ian
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May 12, 2005
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Hello Logan and Ian, Unfortunately, in the study Logan cited, they never recounted the demodex (if my memory serves correct) and thus it was a general anti- ...
Dr. Geoffrey Nase, PhD
drnase2000
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May 12, 2005
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I for one , value Dr. Nase's input...... and after I read what he has to say, I STILL make up my own mind about MY skin. We are very lucky to have someone...
Aimee
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May 11, 2005
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Knowledge is power. Allow us the opportunity to discover knowledge. Ami Hello Ami, I agree that knowledge is power. But you need the right knowledge and ...
Dr. Geoffrey Nase, PhD
drnase2000
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May 11, 2005
10:35 pm

Hi, Demodex Solutions has helped a few on this board, but their overall claims on that site are both outrageous and erroneous. I think the point he is trying...
Ray
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May 11, 2005
10:33 pm

Keep up the good work , Geoffrey ! Aimee "Dr. Geoffrey Nase, PhD" <drnase1000@...> wrote: Knowledge is power. Allow us the opportunity to discover...
Aimee
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