Hi Winnie,

Quoting Dr Nase from his book, 'Facial flushing is the first and
universal symptom of rosacea'.

Depending on the stage of rosacea, it can be transient and short
lived as seen in pre-rosacea or much more long standing and lasting
as seen in the more severe stages.

Please correct me anyone if I'm wrong but I think yes, flushing is a
must symptom for rosacea.

Mermaid


--- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com, "Winnie M" <luckywin777@h...>
wrote:
>
> Hi Mermaid and everyone,
>
> Without flushing, not rosacea?
>
> Thanks a lot in advance!! Winnie
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: "mermaidcardone" <mariacardone11@h...>
> To: rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [rosacea] Re: Rosacea or acne??
> Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 11:39:04 -0000
>
>
>
>
> Hello isthisallthereis,
>
> I'm not sure how much this will help with the confusion that you are
> feeling but I shall quote from Dr Nase's book. Firstly on the
section
> about papules and pustules.
>
> He says that 'rosacea is a vascular disorder of the face that is
> characterized by frequent flushing, vascular dysfunction and damage.
> If the underlying vascular disorder progresses, it may cause skin
> symptoms such as papules and pustules. After months or years of
> facial flushing, some rosacea sufferers may develop inflammatory
> papules (small, red bumps about the size of a pinhead), and pustules
> (small red bumps with pus). These red bumps are not pimples or adult
> acne. Papules and pustules are primarily caused by facial flushing.
> Over time, immune cells leak through damaged facial blood vessels
> into the surrounding skin. These immune cells then migrate towards
> the surface of the facial skin, resulting in red, inflammatory
> lesions'.
>
> In the next section Dr Nase describes Rosacea in conjunction with
> Acne.
>
> He says that 'Some rosacea sufferers also have co-existing skin
> problems, such as whiteheads, blackheads, large pores, and excess
> facial oil. This usually presents a problem because most anti-acne
> preperations are too harsh for rosacea skin. Rosacea sufferers must
> be very cautious when treating skin problems such as acne, oily skin
> or enlarged pores'.
>
> Dr Nase's suggestions for the second scenario are (1) Oral and
> Topical Antibiotics, (2) Klaron Lotion 10% (3) Cleocin T Gel (4)
> Topical Sulfur/Sulfacetamide Preparations and (5) Very-Low-Dose Oral
> Isotretinoin.
>
> I'm not sure that this has really eased your mind or cleared any
> confusion but I hope it helps in some way to find the direction you
> should be heading towards.
>
> Mermaid
>
>
> --- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com, "isthisallthereis1313"
> <isthisallthereis1313@y...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I've been wondering if there's a link between rosacea and acne or
> if
> > any one else has had similar experiences to mine.
> >
> > I have bumps that are like pimples on my chin and I also have a
> > really red nose and slightly red cheeks. First I thought I just
had
> > acne then my doc told me it was rosacea and sent me to a
> > dermatologist who confirmed this. I wasn't really happy with the
> > treatment from this derm so a few years later I went back to my
> > doctor and he seemed to change his mind and said "maybe try these
> > acne treatments." After trying more crap and getting very
> frustrated
> > I went to a different derm who also said I had 'acne' because
even
> > though my nose is red it has open pores which are not part of
> rosacea!
> >
> > Is this true? Anyone know? I'd never heard that before, aren't
open
> > pores, blackheads etc a part of rosacea? I am so confused now I
> don't
> > even know what's wrong with me. Do I have rosacea or acne or both
> or
> > some new freakish thing? Why do two derms say different things
and
> > the same doctor keep changing his mind.
> >
> > Has anyone else ever had trouble with a diagnosis?
> > Is there any link between acne and rosacea?
> > I keep hearing people saying not to use acne products on rosacea
> and
> > yet my current derm is saying to and has prescribed stieva A. One
> > says try roaccutane, the other says not to cos its too harsh. One
> > minute I'm on an antibiotic, the next I'm on some hormone
altering
> > pill, then I'm using oil free then I'm being careful not dry my
> skin
> > out. Can't they agree on anything?
> > AAhhh! Its driving me crazy, these doctors are so frustrating!
Just
> > had to get that off my chest.
> >
> > Any opinions on this subject would be most welcome.
>
>
>
>
>
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