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Re: EU close to banning Tea Tree Oil & Salmonella   Message List  
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Re: [rosacea] RE: EU close to banning Tea Tree Oil & Salmonella

also, OT, another note of irritation on my behalf - i found something
great called Brolene Gel that cured my eyes of rosacea (in combination
with other treatments, cleaning regimes and supplements).

the chemist told me it was going out of production. not believing my
ears, i went to another chemist .. they had plenty! they said it was
fine, no worries! i bought a couple of tubes just in case.

return to buy more, thinking .. hmm, better get supplies ... and ..
nothing. "oh sorry they actually DID go out of production after all ..
silly us!"

anyways ... fat least i can use "No More Tears", a lipoic spray for
eyelids .. must allow it to dry for at least a minute on the lids,
otherwise it might drip and irritate the eye.

as regards the fact that i have brought information to the group that
may not please some members, can i just take a moment to say this: do
not shoot the messenger.

i have been a part of this group since 2002, and i had to leave the
group for a time, as i was abused by three different people in regards
to a fellow called "ghost cat", an unscrupulous underhanded spammer,
whom i called out as a scammer.

just mentioning, in case anyone thinks it is fine to hassle me - it
ain't.


i only bring this information to the group because i think it is time
for the truth to come out.

i have provided a number of solutions .. especially the clearasil
'vanishing' and 'ultra' combo which can work great, but no-one has
asked me about that. no one asks me about the burdock solution etc ..

what i am trying to do here is gently explain that if i bring info to
the group, i am not willing to listen ot any whingeing and "heck this"
or "heck that". seriously, i am not here to cause irritation at all,
and i do not wish to be painted in that light at all, not even one
percent, THANKYOU.




j




--- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com, "jasper_vader"
<jasper_vader@...> wrote:
>
> that's exactly the reason i am upset about it too. i was just about to
> buy Blemish Redness Control. maybe they could be asked for a
> non-tea-tree oil version? if a petition of one hundred people were
> sent to them, they may consider it.
>
> i only mention because the actual founder of Purple Emu herself had to
> deal with rosacea, and may be aware of the range of issues faced when
> attempting to remove rosacea. im not sure how to convince, although i
> would really like to be someone who helps get good things done, rather
> than just being a nay-sayer.
>
>
>
> j
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com, Elena Mutter <emgm42000@>
> wrote:
> >
> > You know, I couldn't be more upset about all this with the TTO. I
> finally buy the purple emu Blemish Redness Control, it works utterly
> FANTASTIC, I have relief I haven't had in four years, and now THIS!
> IT's like a nasty cosmic joke! I don't know what the heck to do
now!
> >
> > Really bummed out,
> > Elena
> >
> > --- On Mon, 12/29/08, Matthew I <mtthw_i@> wrote:
> >
> > From: Matthew I <mtthw_i@>
> > Subject: [rosacea] RE: EU close to banning Tea Tree Oil & Salmonella
> > To: rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Monday, December 29, 2008, 8:03 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I had a read over that article and the section on 'superbugs' caught
> my attention, it may just be co-incidence but could possibly be
related...
> >
> > I have been wanting to test the demodex theory for a while. I have
> not been willing to try the ZZ ointment, and when I started reading
> about succesful killing of demodex with Tea Tree Oil (TTO), I looked
> into some facial products containing it. Since October 1st I have been
> using the body shops foaming facial wash with TTO and shortly after I
> also started using their mattifying Moisture Gel with TTO. I tried to
> ffind out the concentrations used but I dont think it is listed (I
> have sent an e-mail to ask). These are the products...
> > http://www.thebodys hop.com.au/ Product.aspx? Id=45
> > http://www.thebodys hop.com.au/ Product.aspx? Id=47
> >  
> > In the article you posted this sentence grabbed my attention...
> >  
> > "It has also been revealed that tea tree oil in cosmetics and creams
> could increase the chances of catching 'superbug' infections in
> hospital. Exposure to low doses of the oil made pathogens such as
> MRSA, E.coli and salmonella more resistant to antibiotics. "
> >  
> > It may just be coincidence but on the fourth of November I
> contracted salmonella (confirmed with the doctor taking a sample of
> the stool) and had to take a week off work, it was pretty bad. I also
> had similar symptons the following week. I dont know if it was a flare
> or due to something else. I googled TTO and Salmonella and found a
> couple of other articles.
> >  
> > http://www.irishhea lth.com/article. html?level= 4&id=11007
> > http://www.dailymai l.co.uk/health/ article-436367/ Tea-tree-
> oil-make- superbugs- stronger. html
> >  
> > Taken from the three articles, Apparently concentrations of <1% are
> recommended for safety (relating to hormone regulation I figured)
> However, it is also advised that concentration of <4% should not be
> used when relating to bacteria as this does not kill them, only
> switched on their defense mechanisms and makes them more resistant to
> antibiotics. I wonder if concentrations <4% also switches on their
> immune system and makes bacteria more resistant to our immune system?
> >  
> > It seems to be nearly a lose/lose situation according to those
> articles. Concentrations high enough to kill the bacteria can possibly
> affect hormone balances, however concentrations low enough to escape
> the hormone problem will only make the bacteria more resistant to
> antibiotic treatment, and possibly our own immune system?.
> >  
> > I'll have to do some more research before I make a decision but I
> have to admit that I am really disappointed and thought I had
> something (TTO) which would test the demodex theory easily.
> >  
> > Do you (Jasper) or anyone else out there know of any facial products
> that are safe and are known to kill off the demodex mite?
> >  
> > Thanks
> > Matt.
> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -
> >  
> > quick link:
> > http://www.guardian .co.uk/science/ 2007/feb/ 18/medicineandhe
> alth.health
> >
> > i do realise now it is much easier to show evidence from other
> > sources, rather than to try and convince via interaction.
> >
> > j
> >
> > Stay connected to the people that matter most with a smarter inbox.
> Take a look http://au.docs. yahoo.com/ mail/smarterinbo x
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>





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I had a read over that article and the section on 'superbugs' caught my attention, it may just be co-incidence but could possibly be related... I have been...
Matthew I
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Dec 30, 2008
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basically, to try and eradicate demodex entirely is not actually the way forward, believe it or not ... the are too tough and the skin and body is too human to...
jasper_vader
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Dec 30, 2008
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You know, I couldn't be more upset about all this with the TTO. I finally buy the purple emu Blemish Redness Control, it works utterly FANTASTIC, I have...
Elena Mutter
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Dec 31, 2008
6:18 pm

that's exactly the reason i am upset about it too. i was just about to buy Blemish Redness Control. maybe they could be asked for a non-tea-tree oil version?...
jasper_vader
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Dec 31, 2008
11:39 pm

also, OT, another note of irritation on my behalf - i found something great called Brolene Gel that cured my eyes of rosacea (in combination with other...
jasper_vader
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Jan 1, 2009
12:19 am

Jasper,   Hey, I am all for any info or advice you have to give. I can't speak for anyone else, but I personally don't take offense to how someone presents...
Sherrell-Lynn Johnson
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Jan 1, 2009
1:56 am

Sherrell, you are very kind, thanks for putting me at ease. perception of how others perceive me has been one of the most difficult factors for me to...
jasper_vader
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Jan 1, 2009
2:41 am

Jasper,   Just one more note on the last email......how other people percieve you isn't your responsibility.  You should be you...plain and simple.  I can't...
Sherrell-Lynn Johnson
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Jan 1, 2009
2:37 pm

nice one sherrell .. actually in this case it was mostly concern about aggressive emails from aggressive people. totally unwanted type of attention. anyway...
jasper_vader
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Jan 1, 2009
8:45 pm

Personally, I'm sticking with the Redness - it works. I only use so very little every couple of days now and I'd rather not go back the way I was on the off...
Woody
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Jan 1, 2009
1:56 am

Amen to that Woody! I'm still on the fence about the dangers of TTO. Can't say I'm buying into it all. There are tons of foods that mimic estrogen too...
Elena Mutter
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Jan 3, 2009
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just a gentle note that TTO does not 'mimic', it 'mutates' hormones - totally different to whatever else you mentioned there - except the lavender oil, that is...
jasper_vader
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Jan 3, 2009
11:07 pm

Jasper, where can I read about that? I am allergic to milk, so I drinks soy milk. Researching on the internet, there are so many mixed messages -- so if you...
gabri_gallo
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Jan 3, 2009
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here's a good link: http://www.healingdaily.com/detoxification-diet/soy.htm in there they claim that feeding soy-milk formula to babies is child abuse... this...
jasper_vader
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Jan 4, 2009
1:31 am

Hi Gabriella, ... If you will excuse me for adding my opinion, I think Wikipedia has become a pretty good general research toolbecause they cover competing...
Aurelia.Dawn
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Jan 4, 2009
2:42 am

Thanks Jasper and Aurelia! I only drink at most a cup a day (in coffee or tea) and alternate with Rice Milk, so I think "perhaps" this shouldn't be too big of...
gabri_gallo
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Jan 4, 2009
11:46 pm

ironically, you raise one of the concerns about westerners' "opinion" of soy. they believe they know what a 'small' and 'large' amount is .. well, dont be so...
jasper_vader
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Jan 5, 2009
12:23 am

What I don't understand is the "staph" thing. I have another wonderful genetic issue with sebaceous cysting - mainly on my face of course. The cycts kick up...
Woody
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Jan 4, 2009
11:44 pm

as regards TTO, one of my health concerns is that if it got near the eye, my vision went blurry for hours (unable to read a computer monitor for those hours)...
jasper_vader
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Jan 5, 2009
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FYI, I found a website, teatreewonders.com that talks about various myths concerning tea tree oil. One first one being that it causes boys to grow breasts, a...
DAVID LEE DURHAM
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Jan 4, 2009
2:34 am

thanks for seeking to contribute a balanced view to the conversation. however my concern is with the website's intentions: "The number two reason? People have...
jasper_vader
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Jan 4, 2009
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Yeah it's not nice to hear bad information when you think you've found something good, I'm bummed out too Elena. Although this is for the best, I know I dont...
Matthew I
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Jan 4, 2009
2:41 am

the boobs on boys claims are only for the young, pre/onset of adolescence.. and only in extreme cases. however, i do believe that TTO can effect sexuality...
jasper_vader
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Jan 4, 2009
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a lighthearted note as regards not reacting too strongly to information, whether supposedly of concern or not .. for me, extreme laughter is sometimes a...
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