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Re: EU close to banning Tea Tree Oil & Salmonella   Message List  
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I had a read over that article and the section on 'superbugs' caught my
attention, it may just be co-incidence but could possibly be related...

I have been wanting to test the demodex theory for a while. I have not been
willing to try the ZZ ointment, and when I started reading about succesful
killing of demodex with Tea Tree Oil (TTO), I looked into some facial products
containing it. Since October 1st I have been using the body shops foaming facial
wash with TTO and shortly after I also started using their mattifying Moisture
Gel with TTO. I tried to ffind out the concentrations used but I dont think it
is listed (I have sent an e-mail to ask). These are the products...
http://www.thebodyshop.com.au/Product.aspx?Id=45
http://www.thebodyshop.com.au/Product.aspx?Id=47
 
In the article you posted this sentence grabbed my attention...
 
"It has also been revealed that tea tree oil in cosmetics and creams could
increase the chances of catching 'superbug' infections in hospital. Exposure to
low doses of the oil made pathogens such as MRSA, E.coli and salmonella more
resistant to antibiotics."
 
It may just be coincidence but on the fourth of November I contracted salmonella
(confirmed with the doctor taking a sample of the stool) and had to take a week
off work, it was pretty bad. I also had similar symptons the following week. I
dont know if it was a flare or due to something else. I googled TTO and
Salmonella and found a couple of other articles.
 
http://www.irishhealth.com/article.html?level=4&id=11007
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-436367/Tea-tree-oil-make-superbugs-str\
onger.html

 
Taken from the three articles, Apparently concentrations of <1% are recommended
for safety (relating to hormone regulation I figured) However, it is also
advised that concentration of <4% should not be used when relating to bacteria
as this does not kill them, only switched on their defense mechanisms and makes
them more resistant to antibiotics. I wonder if concentrations <4% also switches
on their immune system and makes bacteria more resistant to our immune system?
 
It seems to be nearly a lose/lose situation according to those articles.
Concentrations high enough to kill the bacteria can possibly affect hormone
balances, however concentrations low enough to escape the hormone problem will
only make the bacteria more resistant to antibiotic treatment, and possibly our
own immune system?.
 
I'll have to do some more research before I make a decision but I have to admit
that I am really disappointed and thought I had something (TTO) which would test
the demodex theory easily.
 
Do you (Jasper) or anyone else out there know of any facial products that are
safe and are known to kill off the demodex mite?
 
Thanks
Matt.
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quick link:
http://www.guardian .co.uk/science/ 2007/feb/ 18/medicineandhe alth.health

i do realise now it is much easier to show evidence from other
sources, rather than to try and convince via interaction.

j


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I had a read over that article and the section on 'superbugs' caught my attention, it may just be co-incidence but could possibly be related... I have been...
Matthew I
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Dec 30, 2008
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basically, to try and eradicate demodex entirely is not actually the way forward, believe it or not ... the are too tough and the skin and body is too human to...
jasper_vader
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Dec 30, 2008
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You know, I couldn't be more upset about all this with the TTO. I finally buy the purple emu Blemish Redness Control, it works utterly FANTASTIC, I have...
Elena Mutter
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Dec 31, 2008
6:18 pm

that's exactly the reason i am upset about it too. i was just about to buy Blemish Redness Control. maybe they could be asked for a non-tea-tree oil version?...
jasper_vader
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Dec 31, 2008
11:39 pm

also, OT, another note of irritation on my behalf - i found something great called Brolene Gel that cured my eyes of rosacea (in combination with other...
jasper_vader
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Jan 1, 2009
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Jasper,   Hey, I am all for any info or advice you have to give. I can't speak for anyone else, but I personally don't take offense to how someone presents...
Sherrell-Lynn Johnson
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Jan 1, 2009
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Sherrell, you are very kind, thanks for putting me at ease. perception of how others perceive me has been one of the most difficult factors for me to...
jasper_vader
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Jan 1, 2009
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Jasper,   Just one more note on the last email......how other people percieve you isn't your responsibility.  You should be you...plain and simple.  I can't...
Sherrell-Lynn Johnson
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Jan 1, 2009
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nice one sherrell .. actually in this case it was mostly concern about aggressive emails from aggressive people. totally unwanted type of attention. anyway...
jasper_vader
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Jan 1, 2009
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Personally, I'm sticking with the Redness - it works. I only use so very little every couple of days now and I'd rather not go back the way I was on the off...
Woody
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Jan 1, 2009
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Amen to that Woody! I'm still on the fence about the dangers of TTO. Can't say I'm buying into it all. There are tons of foods that mimic estrogen too...
Elena Mutter
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Jan 3, 2009
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just a gentle note that TTO does not 'mimic', it 'mutates' hormones - totally different to whatever else you mentioned there - except the lavender oil, that is...
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Jan 3, 2009
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Jasper, where can I read about that? I am allergic to milk, so I drinks soy milk. Researching on the internet, there are so many mixed messages -- so if you...
gabri_gallo
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Jan 3, 2009
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here's a good link: http://www.healingdaily.com/detoxification-diet/soy.htm in there they claim that feeding soy-milk formula to babies is child abuse... this...
jasper_vader
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Hi Gabriella, ... If you will excuse me for adding my opinion, I think Wikipedia has become a pretty good general research toolbecause they cover competing...
Aurelia.Dawn
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Jan 4, 2009
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Thanks Jasper and Aurelia! I only drink at most a cup a day (in coffee or tea) and alternate with Rice Milk, so I think "perhaps" this shouldn't be too big of...
gabri_gallo
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Jan 4, 2009
11:46 pm

ironically, you raise one of the concerns about westerners' "opinion" of soy. they believe they know what a 'small' and 'large' amount is .. well, dont be so...
jasper_vader
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Jan 5, 2009
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What I don't understand is the "staph" thing. I have another wonderful genetic issue with sebaceous cysting - mainly on my face of course. The cycts kick up...
Woody
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Jan 4, 2009
11:44 pm

as regards TTO, one of my health concerns is that if it got near the eye, my vision went blurry for hours (unable to read a computer monitor for those hours)...
jasper_vader
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Jan 5, 2009
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FYI, I found a website, teatreewonders.com that talks about various myths concerning tea tree oil. One first one being that it causes boys to grow breasts, a...
DAVID LEE DURHAM
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Jan 4, 2009
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thanks for seeking to contribute a balanced view to the conversation. however my concern is with the website's intentions: "The number two reason? People have...
jasper_vader
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Jan 4, 2009
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Yeah it's not nice to hear bad information when you think you've found something good, I'm bummed out too Elena. Although this is for the best, I know I dont...
Matthew I
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Jan 4, 2009
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the boobs on boys claims are only for the young, pre/onset of adolescence.. and only in extreme cases. however, i do believe that TTO can effect sexuality...
jasper_vader
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Jan 4, 2009
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a lighthearted note as regards not reacting too strongly to information, whether supposedly of concern or not .. for me, extreme laughter is sometimes a...
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